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Season 2 Trailer.

Out December 17. Can't wait.


In universe, is the bard considered a great songwriter but a terrible singer? Both the barmaid and the jailkeeper seem to have.. interesting reactions to his performance.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
In universe, is the bard considered a great songwriter but a terrible singer? Both the barmaid and the jailkeeper seem to have.. interesting reactions to his performance.

It is odd, but maybe his music is more appealing to our modern tastes, while audiences in-genre prefer the sorts of tedious singing found in Wheel of Time. (Goodness, that was dire. I had to fast-forward through it.)


Wow he sounds bitter. That is a right "Ma man Done me Wrong" kind of song.


BigNorseWolf wrote:
In universe, is the bard considered a great songwriter but a terrible singer? Both the barmaid and the jailkeeper seem to have.. interesting reactions to his performance.

I interpreted that as the barmaid heard it too many times and the jailkeeper not wanting to hear the process. Also, Jaskier singing shows that the jailkeeper little control of his jail.


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For those interested in such things Tod of Tod's Workshop and Tod Cutler (that's his real name, I'm sure of it) was behind some of the weapons in the series and has a few videos about the making of and the stories behind them.


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BigNorseWolf wrote:
In universe, is the bard considered a great songwriter but a terrible singer? Both the barmaid and the jailkeeper seem to have.. interesting reactions to his performance.
I interpreted that as the barmaid heard it too many times and the jailkeeper not wanting to hear the process. Also, Jaskier singing shows that the jailkeeper little control of his jail.

I'm sure a jug of wine could have gotten him to change the station


Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
For those interested in such things Tod of Tod's Workshop and Tod Cutler (that's his real name, I'm sure of it) was behind some of the weapons in the series and has a few videos about the making of and the stories behind them.

Ooo. thats pretty cool.

I was watching another video, not sure if it was Tod from todds worshop there or someone similar, that was hypothesizing that the only reason most swords didn't have a longer hilt is that they'd poke onto your shield if they weren't on a belt. Since I haven't seen geralt using a shield, no reason for a shorter handle.

For monster hunting I'd be using some sort of glaive though.


This is another series that comes out "just ok". Not regretting I watched it but there will be no temptation to see it a second time.

Why 'O why can't they use the story they're given and not butcher it with their stupefying "better" ideas?


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Quark Blast wrote:

This is another series that comes out "just ok". Not regretting I watched it but there will be no temptation to see it a second time.

Why 'O why can't they use the story they're given and not butcher it with their stupefying "better" ideas?

Because they'd be lucky to get three seasons out of them. The books are super-short (until the last one) by epic fantasy standards and also mind-bogglingly slow-paced, which quite a bizarre combination.

Spoiler:
In the books, at the end of Book 3 Ciri is separated from Geralt and Yenn and basically doesn't see them again until Book 7. Geralt assembles a D&D adventuring party to find Ciri, but most of them die on completely unrelated side-quests and every time they think they've found Ciri, it turns out she's in a completely different castle. Meanwhile, an assortment of mages, kings and Djikstra spend ages having strategy meetings spelling out what's going on the political storyline, which ends up not being massively important anyway.

You can't really turn that into a seven-season TV show so they had to do something different with the pacing and storytelling and they did bring in some new elements like the Baba Yaga thing to give the characters more to do. A massive complaint about the novels is that Geralt ceases doing any proper Witchering after the first two books and gets less and less screentime until he's a guest character in the series named after him, whilst Ciri becomes the star. Which of course they can't do whilst they're paying Henry Cavill millions to play Geralt.

That said, they did do some things that were really weird, like inverting Lambert and Eskel's characters and then killing Eskel (who is a far more important character in the books) almost instantly for no obvious reason.

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Sad, but not entirely unexpected news, they've recast Geralt starting with season 4, with Liam Hemsworth. Seems to be amicable, and likely cause Cavill can't keep Witcher commitments now that he's back as Superman for DC. For me, this is a negative, not because Liam is bad (I honestly don't know his work at all other than cameos) but because Cavill is so good as Geralt.

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Yeah, I saw the casting change news. Sad, but as you say, not surprising. Cavill was one of the main reasons I even started watching the show (being a fan of his since The Count of Monte Cristo), so I doubt I’ll continue with it.

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I'll give season 4 a chance, I don't have anything against Liam, he's just an unknown. I certainty didn't stop watching James Bond when Sean Connery was replaced (or Roger Moore, Pierce Bronson, etc.)

Scarab Sages

If it were a show I was more invested in, and enjoying a great deal, I might keep watching. As is, I didn’t think much of season 2 overall, and was mostly watching it because I was bored. So for me, it’s not a big loss.

That said, never say never. If the reviewers I tend to watch say good things about the new stuff, and I find time, I might just watch more.

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I saw an article about some fans putting together a petition to get Henry Cavill back….and get rid of the writers instead.

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Aberzombie wrote:
I saw an article about some fans putting together a petition to get Henry Cavill back….and get rid of the writers instead.

I saw that too, and it's dumb. He didn't leave because of the writers and show runners, he left because he's back to being Superman. It's also the same writers and show runners who made the show which the fans liked in the first place.

Scarab Sages

Not all the fans, apparently.


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Yup, there's been a heavy backlash against the show from a subset of the fandom, not helped by one of the writers on the first season coming out and saying that other writers were mocking the books and video games in the writers' room and deliberately changing things because they thought the source material sucked. I outlined some pretty huge problems with the books that makes them very difficult to adapt above, but there's a difference to changing things because the source material is not really suitable for TV drama and changing things because they hated the source material (in which case...why work on the project?).

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I'm hoping the fandom can make enough noise and pull a move like what happened with the Sonic movie and force the studio and maybe convince Cavil to reconsider the direction of things.

If Netflix really does go forward with season 4 and just swaps actors I don't see it going well... at all.


I'm looking forward to the new season, and I hope that the cast remains the same


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Well that was a rather disappointing ending.

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