Richter Harding
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The gist of it is that I play barbarians and heavy martials mostly, 4 of my characters are bloodragers.
This is my 6th character and im trying to get out of my comfort zone, and I like the idea of a numerian gnome with a phaser.
I managed to get to level 2 without getting mauled so im taking advantage of the last lvl 1 rebuild im getting.
Can anyone give me some advice on how to proceed?
| Johnny_Devo |
So you want a gnome magus that uses guns?
First: Eldritch Archer archetype. It's much better for ranged weapons than a myrmidarch, and it lets you take a gun for free as your arcane bond.
Second: As soon as you have ranged spellstrike and ranged spell combat, you're already making potentially two attacks a turn. This means you want the best gun you can get with a free action reload. Depending on your setting, this has varying degrees of difficulty. Consult with your GM on what guns are available, and the gun you pick should be the one with the lowest possible misfire chance after getting your weapon to a free action reload time.
Third: Once you have your free action reload time, your next order of business is to reduce the misfire chance as low as possible, and if you can't reach 0, you need a way to deal with the broken condition in the case of a misfire. Because you have a bonded weapon, you can modify it as if you had "craft magic arms and armor", so it's probably a good investment to get the "reliable" weapon property as soon as possible. In addition, you might want to use your level 5 feat to pick up the "spell blending" magus arcana to pick up "mend" and a level 1 spell of your choice from the wizard list.
Selvaxri
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first off, how are you getting a phaser? there aren't any "energy-based firearms" in PFS without access to appropriate Chronicle sheets [if you want one, look into playing or running Silvermount Collection], as Additional Resources says that all equipment from Technology Guide isn't PFS-Legal. *As far as I know.
So that leaves you with a choice- play a dex-based Magus that dabbles in some Gunslinger levels, and get the Reach Arcana asap. though, that itself could be a hassle.
other than that, an idea of what your character would like to do would help as "numerian gnome [gun magus] with a phaser" is quite vague.
Ferious Thune
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A ranged Magus is tough in PFS. Look at the Myrmidarch archetype. That gives you Ranged Spellstrike, which will let you deliver a ranged touch spell with your gun. It doesn't, however, change Spell Combat, so that still requires a melee weapon. It also doesn't allow you to use your Arcane Pool to enhance your ranged weapon.
Oddly, Myrmidarch doesn't actually modify the Spellstrike ability. It just adds Ranged Spellstrike at level 5 as an additional ability. Which means that it looks like it is compatible with Card Caster.
Card Caster modifies your Arcane Pool so that you can use it to enhance a ranged weapon. It also modifies Spellstrike so that it works with thrown weapons. Oddly, though, it does not modify Spell Combat to work with ranged weapons, either.
The Eldritch Archer archetype mentioned is what you really want, but as mentioned, it isn't PFS legal.
You'll pretty much have to have a Gunslinger dip in PFS to use guns. Outside of a couple of archetypes, most gun using archetypes of other classes aren't legal. Spellscar Drifter is about the only other choice, but for a dip, just going Gunslinger is probably best.
Taken all together, it's a pretty brutal combination. You have Spell Combat that you can't really use, so you're giving up the primary Magus power. You also trade away 2 of the 3 Arcanas that you would get in normal PFS play, plus the one you'd get at 12 for Seeker play. So you'd get 1 Arcana at 6th level, and any others you want would have to be taken with the Extra Arcana feat.
Selvaxri
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A ranged Magus is tough in PFS. Look at the Myrmidarch archetype. That gives you Ranged Spellstrike, which will let you deliver a ranged touch spell with your gun. It doesn't, however, change Spell Combat, so that still requires a melee weapon. It also doesn't allow you to use your Arcane Pool to enhance your ranged weapon.
he can either use a Dagger Pistol, or slap a Bayonet on a Musket. The dagger Pistol may be the best option since it can still use the Arcana pool.
| Johnny_Devo |
Ferious Thune wrote:he can either use a Dagger Pistol, or slap a Bayonet on a Musket. The dagger Pistol may be the best option since it can still use the Arcana pool.A ranged Magus is tough in PFS. Look at the Myrmidarch archetype. That gives you Ranged Spellstrike, which will let you deliver a ranged touch spell with your gun. It doesn't, however, change Spell Combat, so that still requires a melee weapon. It also doesn't allow you to use your Arcane Pool to enhance your ranged weapon.
hmm. That may be a way to make use of all his abilities, but it won't let him use spell combat at range, unfortunately. A weapon that can act as multiple types of weapon only counts as the type of weapon it's currently being used as.
If that makes sense.
Richter Harding
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Well The idea was to use a pistol and channel scorching rays through it with spellstrike, I would assume the whole spell combat thing is handled in the second part of ranged spellstrike.
You can make additional attacks as if you were making a full attack as long as you have ranged touches remaining.
Though reading into myrmidarch more makes me realize it isnt meant as a ranged magus, but its starting to look more like a switch hitter.
This complicates things.
| Dasrak |
Spellslinger isn't PFS legal either, otherwise I would agree that's the best way to pursue the concept that Richter is going for.
The only real approach if you want to use both guns and spellcasting in PFS is Gunslinger into Eldritch Knight. However, your character can't really be great at both. The 5 levels of Gunslinger to get gun training will leave your spellcasting horribly delayed, but going straight for the 5 levels of Wizard to qualify for EK will stunt both your attack and damage. And it's certainly not going to get the spellstrike ability or anything like it to get the "ray gun" effect you're looking for.