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So my plan is to make a grippli aberrant sorcerer who can climb on ceilings and use his gtongue to deliver nasty touch attacks from 15' away. This will require weapon finesse and the agile tongue feat, which requires two feats, which means, if i go straight sorc, i cant do this until level three, but if i use an unchained rogue for level 1, i get a bunch of additional skill points, more hp, free weapon finesse, when i do use my rapier i intend to carry (princely). Seems like a while mess of bonus, but the penalties, is one level behind spell casting for a sorc, and slightly reduced bab. Thoughts?
THIS WILL BE PFS LEGAL, and mustg stay that way!
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I think he'll be popular with the ladies.
Sorcerers are already a level behind wizards in getting higher level spells. This is going to put you 2 levels behind. So when the wizard is getting 3rd level spells you will be getting 2nd level. You also lose a caster level which means the spells you have are less potent. All in all not really a good trade.
So you suggest maybe going rogue level 1, and at level2 rework, changing to pure sorc?
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Yes or you could just accept that you don't come online in all your glory till level 3.
I don't know what sort of touch attacks you're thinking of but you don't need to be a sorcerer, you can just use the Eldritch Heritage feat to get the bonus range. Alternatively you can be a normal boring human with their normal boring bonus feat and use alter self to become a grippli.
No matter what you do your idea is not going to come online until your 3rd level of sorcerer. You don’t get long limb until 3rd level of sorcerer. If you dip into rouge you don’t get that until 4th level. Weapon finesse is also not required to make this work especially at low level. Most creatures you fight at first and second level are not going to have that high of a touch AC anyways. Take agile tongue as your first level feat. This still gives you a 10’ reach. Pick up weapon finesse as your third level feat at 3rd level. At this point you have what you are looking for.
There are posts here suggesting that the idea will not be the most powerful character ever created for Pathfinder.
Grippli get a bonus to wisdom and dex not cha. But I think the idea is very cool.
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Sorry for the lack of crunch assist but I had to weigh in on the concept. I think this is a brilliant character concept and would make fantastic creepy npc swamp sorcerer
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There are posts here suggesting that the idea will not be the most powerful character ever created for Pathfinder.
Grippli get a bonus to wisdom and dex not cha. But I think the idea is very cool.
There is always Empyreal wildblood bloodline to get WIS instead of CHA... but then he'd have to not go Aberation.
There are posts here suggesting that the idea will not be the most powerful character ever created for Pathfinder.
Grippli get a bonus to wisdom and dex not cha. But I think the idea is very cool.
No need to be defensive.
The posts are pointing out that there is little benefit to taking Rogue for the build that the player wants.
The Lunging Spell Touch feat will get you another 5', but you likely won't be able to take it until 7th level.
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I'd do the original plan, UnRogue 1/Sorcerer x. It's a concept which needs to be committed to. Yes, you lose a bit of power, but shed no tears, you are still a Sorcerer, could be worse. The Rogue level will also get you good things like Diplomacy as a class skill for your huge Cha. You can spare some points in knowledges too, it is one of the best 1st level classes for dipping.
OP, it's a very fun idea, plenty of RP and very useful. Play it. What's his name?
So yea, i am not 100% sure still if gonna go rogue 1 and reroll to pure sorc or keep it, i'malso gonna spit ball with my local chapter. But yes, i understand its not a op build, but ihave tons of those. I like the idea of crawling on the 20' ceiling and hitting people with shocking grasp, or targeting casters with touch of idiocy. I imagine he will be slinking in the shadows and targeting the most threatening in esch encounter to deal them a good "licking". I did however go with a bit of a cheesxey name for comedy. HER name will be Currmitt Treeclimber