Submit what YOU want to play! :-)
If that's the case then... I just want to double check the rulings here.
We are playing as Lycanthope characters, or the Werewolf Template, which gives us CR +1. However, the Moonlight Meditant soulknife, makes it impossible for me to have them, and suggests that I repalce the levels lost as a werewolf, with class levels instead.
So, does that mean I can start as a level 2 Moonlight Meditant? Or can I have a different CR+1 template instead, if starting level 2 compared to everyone else being level one seems like a bad idea to you?
Submit what YOU want to play! :-)If that's the case then... I just want to double check the rulings here.
We are playing as Lycanthope characters, or the Werewolf Template, which gives us CR +1. However, the Moonlight Meditant soulknife, makes it impossible for me to have them, and suggests that I repalce the levels lost as a werewolf, with class levels instead.
So, does that mean I can start as a level 2 Moonlight Meditant? Or can I have a different CR+1 template instead, if starting level 2 compared to everyone else being level one seems like a bad idea to you?
Take a different CR +1 Template that will lead to the closest party parity starting out I believe.
Hmmm... well the question there is, what template should I have? I mean, the CR+1 Templates are horribily unbalanced. You have templates which are reasonable, like the Fortune-Blessed template through I want to avoid that, as I use it a bit too often. And then you have crazy s!+% like the Green Warden which gives me Leadership and Regeneration, along with a Stat increase nearly equal to the Advanced Simple template, AND more!
Urg... maybe I should just go with something else, fiddling around with templates it just asking for trouble.
I will try to dive into these books Thursday night. I may extend the Greyhawk recruitment as a result!
That could work as well honestly. That, or allowing me to the take the War Souls' reduced maneuver progression instead. I might start off pretty slow on the power curve if we do things that way, but I might end up beating people on the long run...
Unless people that DSP's Werewolf Template, which scales fantastically.
Damn it Ravenloft... what is your party looking for as far as character?No preferences :-)
As one of the players there, I'll voice a preference! We've got a solid group together with a mix of abilities and skills, but one thing we don't have so much is someone who can do dedicated damage at range. Honestly, we don't have a hugely focused combatant at all--the Rogue and Cleric are both strong in a fight, but the classes only give them so much, and my Monk is a bit more skill-focused than fighting (Path of Shadow). Of course, 5E is pretty forgiving and not too strict on party balance, so in the end we're just hopeful to get a good, dedicated character willing to work with our ragtag group of investigators.
OK, when you narrow it down to your favorite choice let me know!As far as my idea goes (werecreature that obtains blood from others) i have a few ideas. Vampire bat, Vampire Frog, or maybe even a Kenyan Jumping Spider would be cool as a starting were-blood-type.So far I have seen:
Werewolf,
Werehawk,
Werecroc,
Wererat
and a Shifter proposed.Once I see a few more ideas I will consider them all and adjust the base stats from the Lycan Template to more appropriately match the creature type.
Besides Bite Me any other books you all think I should look at for consideration as we build these submissions out?
I'll drop Werefrog as i could just play a grippli if i wanted to do that. That said, bat and spider are haaaard to choose from. I suppose bat, since a fly speed (even if not at first level) would be cool. I can pull off some spider stuff with shifter if i want.
But, but, I'm a bat!! :p
But, but, I'm a bat!! :p
oh shoot, if you are indeed being a werebat, then i will go werespider. i really kinda just flipped a coin myself to choose between them haha
I've got some ideas, but nothing remotely set in stone. If selected, I'd like to pursue the Greater Werewolf prestige class presented in the Lords of the Wild playtest.
I'll have more of the fluffy, cuddly bits of wolf sometime in the next day or two. For now, is just the munch and crunch.
Edit: I also need to pick up gear, which shouldn't take terribly long. If we're using the Pack stuff from LotW, I'm itchin to be that Alpha, though I'm certainly not a shoo-in for the position.
I can definately change my shadow lord and go over to something non combat like a child of gaia hehe...
I can definately change my shadow lord and go over to something non combat like a child of gaia hehe...
No need unless you want to. Stay with your first pick as it is what you want to play the most.
INTEREST CHECK
Due to the collapse of another PbP thread I am revitalizing the interest check in a Dragonlance game set on the continent of Taladas (Pathfinder).
This is only an interest check at this time.
Me! Me!
If I don't get into the lycanthropes game I'd be interested.
Heck, I'm interested in the Dragonlance game anyway. Even if I DO get into the Werewolf one.
DL is my favorite!
How many interested players would you need?
My my my... Dragonlance. Tentative interest expressed.
How many interested players would you need?
From last page and this page, I think I have seen enough interest to start recruitment.
Want to take a spin through my boxed set and see what character options I will allow. Pathfinder rules to be sure.
Excellent!
Going to be waiting until I have confirmation what to do if I'm playing a Moonlight Meditant. Templates are very unbalanced and have been very badly managed. Most of them aren't really a good idea for players either. So I agree that I should have the Gifted Blade Manifesting or Warsoul Manuverers instead of a template.
I was thinking either a druid or cleric of Mishakel
Do you have the 2nd edition modules? The kender there are more like afflicted kender aren't they?
Excellent!
Going to be waiting until I have confirmation what to do if I'm playing a Moonlight Meditant. Templates are very unbalanced and have been very badly managed. Most of them aren't really a good idea for players either. So I agree that I should have the Gifted Blade Manifesting or Warsoul Manuverers instead of a template.
My comment on the matter wasn't really a "You deserve to have the gifted blade progression tacked on" statement; I always think that SKs should have Gifted Blade tacked on, but moreso when the campaign is high-magic or high-power in general.
That said, I think War Soul is a bit much to get for free. For their stuff, they give up not just psychic strike, but also the blade skills at Levels 4 and 10. Between psychic strike and two blade skills, War Soul is a really hefty investment, and I think it's a bit much to get for free, even in this sort of campaign.
In any case, I'm not the GM, so none of what I've said, for or against LotW or any options contained therein, really matters too much.
Do you have the 2nd edition modules? The kender there are more like afflicted kender aren't they?
Yes.
I do not remember been a while since I looked that those books :-)
Huh, I thought you were suggesting that I don't have a template, and instead get Gifted Blade, because the Moonlight Meditant can't actually ahve the werewolf template. My bad.
And Gifted Blade gives up Psychic Strike anyway. It's not like the extra two blade skills are THAT much of an extra sacrifice. Plus, the Maneuver Progression, is entirely combat focused. Gifted Blade Manifesting would be able to help me in combat yeah. But it also has a lot of other tools to help me elsewhere as well.
So in my opinion, it's an even swap.
I was absolutely suggesting you receive Gifted Blade, but I don't believe I mentioned War Soul. In my experience, soul knives are strong enough in combat already, even moreso the Moonlight Meditant with its class features and heavily sped up Enhanced Mind Blade progression, that it doesn't need extra combat power from War Soul.
By the way, I highly recommend the trait from Soulknives Augmented II that lets you pick a weapon ability from off the regular list, and take a look at Lifesurge. Even if you don't take that, there are some really neat, flavorful effects you can add on, like Limning or Heartseeker.
Is this the recruitment thread?
Is this the recruitment thread?
It will be once I set it up later. I do all my recruiting in this thread.
I was absolutely suggesting you receive Gifted Blade, but I don't believe I mentioned War Soul. In my experience, soul knives are strong enough in combat already, even moreso the Moonlight Meditant with its class features and heavily sped up Enhanced Mind Blade progression, that it doesn't need extra combat power from War Soul.
Okay, now you have said it like that, I can pretty much agree with you on that account. The Soulknife, whilst not the best in melee combat, is pretty effective at it I will admit. Plus the Moonlight Meditant is just absolutely awesome for it. So the War Soul isn't needed for combat power.
If the aim is to help balance out my character when it comes to non-combat situations, I do agree that the Gifted Blade would probably be the best way to give my character a little boost here and there.
By the way, I highly recommend the trait from Soulknives Augmented II that lets you pick a weapon ability from off the regular list, and take a look at Lifesurge. Even if you don't take that, there are some really neat, flavorful effects you can add on, like Limning or Heartseeker.
Well, I was hoping to take some of the extra Blade Skills from the Augmented Playtest anyway. Psychic Platform really captures my interest, especially if combined with Psionic Meditation. Psychic Toolkit is just good utility and very much worth picking up. And the idea of making a blanket out of psychic energy makes me laugh. Plus Power Reserve for +2 Power Points level is hardly a bad feat.
Still, I do have very limited blade skills due to the Moonlight Meditant, and only a certain number of feats. If I want to go Formless Master, I'll have to very carefully manage to feats out... through, I will already have one Shifter feat due to Moonlight Meditant, so picking up the other two Shifter Feats, and getting 3 extra from the Formless Master won't exactly hurt either...
Eh, thoughts for later. For now, Lifesurge... eh, not entirely sure. It would work well, allowing me to add my enchantment bonus to the THP from In Wolves’ Clothing... but eh, I don't think it's worth a +2 and a trait to get, especially as the other abilities are very undead focused.
I was absolutely suggesting you receive Gifted Blade, but I don't believe I mentioned War Soul. In my experience, soul knives are strong enough in combat already, even moreso the Moonlight Meditant with its class features and heavily sped up Enhanced Mind Blade progression, that it doesn't need extra combat power from War Soul.Okay, now you have said it like that, I can pretty much agree with you on that account. The Soulknife, whilst not the best in melee combat, is pretty effective at it I will admit. Plus the Moonlight Meditant is just absolutely awesome for it. So the War Soul isn't needed for combat power.
If the aim is to help balance out my character when it comes to non-combat situations, I do agree that the Gifted Blade would probably be the best way to give my character a little boost here and there.
By the way, I highly recommend the trait from Soulknives Augmented II that lets you pick a weapon ability from off the regular list, and take a look at Lifesurge. Even if you don't take that, there are some really neat, flavorful effects you can add on, like Limning or Heartseeker.Well, I was hoping to take some of the extra Blade Skills from the Augmented Playtest anyway. Psychic Platform really captures my interest, especially if combined with Psionic Meditation. Psychic Toolkit is just good utility and very much worth picking up. And the idea of making a blanket out of psychic energy makes me laugh. Plus Power Reserve for +2 Power Points level is hardly a bad feat.
Still, I do have very limited blade skills due to the Moonlight Meditant, and only a certain number of feats. If I want to go Formless Master, I'll have to very carefully manage to feats out... through, I will already have one Shifter feat due to Moonlight Meditant, so picking up the other two Shifter Feats, and getting 3 extra from the Formless Master won't...
The way I was reading the ability, as well as the DM in the game I'm playing one in, read it to apply to the THP regained via Natural Attacks for In Wolf's Clothing, as well, which makes it much more efficient. It's not exactly guaranteed that that's the way it works, however.
Psychic Platform is one of my favorite of the new blade skills from the Augmented line. I've gotten into a habit of making all of my soulknives Humans for the Favored Class Bonus, +1/6 Extra Blade skill feat.
The way I was reading the ability, as well as the DM in the game I'm playing one in, read it to apply to the THP regained via Natural Attacks for In Wolf's Clothing, as well, which makes it much more efficient. It's not exactly guaranteed that that's the way it works, however.
Psychic Platform is one of my favorite of the new blade skills from the Augmented line. I've gotten into a habit of making all of my soulknives Humans for the Favored Class Bonus, +1/6 Extra Blade skill feat.
Okay, I had honestly forget that the In Wolf's Clothing actually lets you regain THP when you hit someone with a Natural Weapon. If the Lifesurge ability DOES work that way, and the DM here agrees with it, then I am most DEFINENTLY picking it up, because damn will it really pick up my ability to take a hit!
Heh, I had already been planning to go human so I can start with Feral Vitality (I don't think there is any races that lets you start with Toughness...), but now you pointed out the +1/6 of an Extra Blade Skill FCB? I am very much interested in picking them as well.
Through you forget that Half-Orcs and Half-Elves (and I suppose Half-Giants as well?) can actually pick the Human and their other species FCB. At least, I'm pretty sure that is the case, I don't remember where the ruling came from...
That is the case, but the extra feat really helps things along, I find. I'm not a huge fan of either of the Half-races, in pathfinder, to be honest.
I'm still not really set on whether I'm going to start with Toughness or a Shifting feat. I'd really like to do some Shifting, but I need Feral Vitality for my Prestige of choice. Worse comes to worst, if chosen (and we get that far), I can select some shifting feats using my bloodline feats, I suppose.
On my phone at the moment, so can't easily check, but I'm pretty sure shifting feats get added to the bonus feat lists of shapeshifters, right?
Mhmmm. Anyone who has access to Shifting Feats adds them as options to their Bonus feats.
Neat, thank you! I'll probably end up delaying Shifting feats for Toughness and Feral Vitality. It's not a lot of healing in combat, but it gets rid of the need for out of combat worry about healing, at least on the part of those with it. It's really good at patching up. Not to mention, it's a pre-requisite for the prestige class I'd like to enter.
Honestly? Fast Healing 2 at level 1 is actually a decent amount of in combat healing. It's more than a Cure Minor Wounds after all, and heck. At this level, it will only be 2-3 rounds to equal a Cure Light Wounds.
Made a alias for my submission as well as a few tweaks to it. Working on background and such, pretty sure the crunch is done.
Hey,Darkin here, you said you where recruiting? Where is that exactly?
Oh... dragonlance...
Heard about the world, have some interest in playing older worlds.
I may do a wizard... or perhaps a witch... a halfling likely... no-one ever plays a halfling. So why not?
Plus Greyhawk plus Werewolf the Apocalypse...
Would wish for far-earlier DL; very much (alas) not interested in the Age of Mortals, in part because I have no background on it.
Still not sure about the WtA character, though.
I do not particularly like Age of Mortals either. I am much much more a Chronicles and Legends kind of guy myself, primarily due to the characters active during those periods. Of course Taladas is another continent entirely than the one those events took place but that does not mean fun stuff could not have been going on there during the War of the Lance. Not all that familiar with it though I must admit.
Generally speaking I really like a Krynn with Gods rather than without, be it before their disappearance or after their return.
DL would not be Age of Mortals. Pre or Post (like just after) War of the Lance will be the time period.
Greyhawk is the original... but I'm more interested in Dragonlance.
Yes a wizard who focuses on big flashy spells. Perhaps becase he/she is small and wants to feel big.
Fixed that for you :-)
I have gotten nothing done tonight, this election is just f!&~ing riveting...
There you go.