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*prefers to remember that Damien is a real dick right now*
That and Batman and Catwoman might find a way to raise Damien better. Maybe.
Well... you don't need to be reminded of that. How can anyone ever forget how horrible a character Damien consistently is...
And yeah... Don't count on that. Catwoman is the type of character who makes the people around her WORSE not Better!

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Yeah it's pretty damn annoying they're taking EVERYTHING from Wally just to prove they could.
Mostly I'm against what they were doing in terms of trying to remove Original Wally just so they can say F you.
Yeah, I figure if they keep f&*$ing with Wally so much, I'll go ahead and drop Titans. Then I'll drop Flash as a title, as my own version of "f~ you" to DC.

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Charles Scholz wrote:I think Taskmaster was first by a couple of decades.I would have thought Deathstroke was first, but it turns out Taskmaster was first by seven months or so. (May 1980 for Taskmaster, Dec 1980 for Deathstroke.)
I thought Taskmaster had been around since the 1960's. My Comic-Fu has failed me.

MythicFox |
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Deadpool wasn't originally intended to be a parody of Deathstroke when they conceptualized the character, but Liefeld turned in the initial sketches and the writer was like "Rob, this is Deathstroke. You made an off-color Deathstroke. <beat> Screw it. He is now a parody of Deathstroke and his name is Wade Wilson. Done."

phantom1592 |

Deadpool wasn't originally intended to be a parody of Deathstroke when they conceptualized the character, but Liefeld turned in the initial sketches and the writer was like "Rob, this is Deathstroke. You made an off-color Deathstroke. <beat> Screw it. He is now a parody of Deathstroke and his name is Wade Wilson. Done."
I've always found that incredibly weak. He doesn't look like Deathstroke...His costume and colors are nothing like Deathstroke... he doesn't act like Deathstroke... his origin and powers are nothing like Deathstroke... Punisher is as much a deathstroke clone as Deadpool is.
Pretty much the only connection is his alter ego name and when it comes to accusations of copying... that's really weak. Darkseid/Thanos... Superman/Gladiator/Sentry... Those have some serious obvious connections... but Deadpool?? I like the explaination that Leifield said where he was copying Spider-Man because he really liked the Spider-Man mask and wanted to draw it... but wasn't on Spider-man books. So he made his own version.
THAT at least I can actually draw some similarities to... it feels a lot more believable then the constant Deathstroke/Deadpool cloud that always comes up when the two characters are mentioned.

thejeff |
MythicFox wrote:Deadpool wasn't originally intended to be a parody of Deathstroke when they conceptualized the character, but Liefeld turned in the initial sketches and the writer was like "Rob, this is Deathstroke. You made an off-color Deathstroke. <beat> Screw it. He is now a parody of Deathstroke and his name is Wade Wilson. Done."I've always found that incredibly weak. He doesn't look like Deathstroke...His costume and colors are nothing like Deathstroke... he doesn't act like Deathstroke... his origin and powers are nothing like Deathstroke... Punisher is as much a deathstroke clone as Deadpool is.
Though that would be more "Deathstroke is a Punisher clone."
But mostly I agree. They're all off in the same basic direction: Gun using vigilantes/mercs. Anti-heroes or villains with a code.
They're clones about as much as any superstrong invulnerable character is a Superman clone or any non or low powered acrobatic brawler is a Batman clone.

phantom1592 |

phantom1592 wrote:MythicFox wrote:Deadpool wasn't originally intended to be a parody of Deathstroke when they conceptualized the character, but Liefeld turned in the initial sketches and the writer was like "Rob, this is Deathstroke. You made an off-color Deathstroke. <beat> Screw it. He is now a parody of Deathstroke and his name is Wade Wilson. Done."I've always found that incredibly weak. He doesn't look like Deathstroke...His costume and colors are nothing like Deathstroke... he doesn't act like Deathstroke... his origin and powers are nothing like Deathstroke... Punisher is as much a deathstroke clone as Deadpool is.Though that would be more "Deathstroke is a Punisher clone."
But mostly I agree. They're all off in the same basic direction: Gun using vigilantes/mercs. Anti-heroes or villains with a code.
They're clones about as much as any superstrong invulnerable character is a Superman clone or any non or low powered acrobatic brawler is a Batman clone.
LOL, yeah... I knew it when I typed it, but wondered if it would slip through ;)
There are a lot of characters that are pretty much rip-offs of something else... but really most have a pretty solid grasp on their own unique thing that sets them apart. I really never see the connective tissue between those two. Both taking a paycheck for killing enemies as mercanaries really isn't close enough to consider them rip offs or clones... May as well call Silver Sable and the A-team Deathstroke clones or vice-versa then.

Freehold DM |

phantom1592 wrote:MythicFox wrote:Deadpool wasn't originally intended to be a parody of Deathstroke when they conceptualized the character, but Liefeld turned in the initial sketches and the writer was like "Rob, this is Deathstroke. You made an off-color Deathstroke. <beat> Screw it. He is now a parody of Deathstroke and his name is Wade Wilson. Done."I've always found that incredibly weak. He doesn't look like Deathstroke...His costume and colors are nothing like Deathstroke... he doesn't act like Deathstroke... his origin and powers are nothing like Deathstroke... Punisher is as much a deathstroke clone as Deadpool is.Though that would be more "Deathstroke is a Punisher clone."
But mostly I agree. They're all off in the same basic direction: Gun using vigilantes/mercs. Anti-heroes or villains with a code.
They're clones about as much as any superstrong invulnerable character is a Superman clone or any non or low powered acrobatic brawler is a Batman clone.
considering just how many of those showed up in those very same books, it's pretty obvious.

Greylurker |

Dark/gritty isn't my thing as a general rule, and based on their blurbs, none of the six Dark titles seem to appeal to me. But I am curious as to the basic premise behind the series/alternate universe. Spoil it for me.
What did he put in there?
One of the Dimensional Tuneing Forks from Crisis on Infinite Earths

Greylurker |

Grey,
Don't forget about his hunt for Nth Metal, one Joker and apparently a bunch of artifacts inside a secret cave INSIDE the Batcave.
Plus apparently Plastic Man. And using Mister Miracle as a Key.
That and hints of JSA Hawkman.
so much cool
but the thing in the vault kind of takes the cake for "Batman did a dumb thing"

Greylurker |

Green Lantern just dropped a nice bomb as well.
7 original Green Rings, created from the Travel Lantern.
7 Rings with an imprinted desire to return to Earth.
How long have people been asking why there are so many Human GLs these days.
Around 6 at the moment isn't there
Hal
John
Guy
Kyle
Simon
Jessica
oh wait
there is one other Magic Ring wasn't there
Alan

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Which universe though? Is it going to be another game tie-in like injustice?
I have a feeling it's more like Anti-matter universe type of thing. But I could be wrong. And no I don't think it's like injustice. More like Kingdom Come.
Grey,
Yeah well they are setting things up for Jessica to lose hers to Volthoom. But whether or not the seven ring is with Alan Scott is a mystery.
They are, however, showcasing the original 7 ring wielders that imprisoned Volthoom.

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I have a feeling it's more like Anti-matter universe type of thing. But I could be wrong.
Found this. It's apparently not just an Earth-3 type dark universe or even an antimatter universe like the one that includes Qward, it's an entire dark multiverse underlying the "familiar" multiverse in the same way dark matter and dark energy make up most of our own space.
My head kind of exploded at the thought of Dark Plastic Man. Does... not... compute... Error! Errrror!

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One of the books I enjoyed this week was Martian Manhunter vs. Marvin the Martian. Very interesting actually. M'arvin's personality is very much in line with his loonytoons self but with more of a serious back story. Giving us a story of predjudice vs. understanding as J'onn tries to save earth from him.
Then followed up with a more Loony Toons style story Where Marvin is trying to trap J'onn using cookies so he can steal his powers.

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Speaking of Superman, what race are the people of Hamilton? At first I thought Coluan, because Kathy and grandpa had green skin, but in issue 25 other townspeople had different color skin.