Azata, Ghaele: Overpowered 13 Hd Greater Planar Ally


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This azata seems quite overpowered; as a 13 HD creature, using Greater Planar Ally, you can gain it's services for 15 days at 15th level, for 15,500 gp. A real bargain!

Let's look at two abilities that alone make her overpowered:

First, CLW, At will. After every combat, just spend time and heal the entire party to full, no use of any resources what so ever.

Second, even more powerful, a Holy Aura Aura that is constant. This is normally a 8th level spell that lasts 1 round per level. The spell is awesome, and since it is an Aura, affects everyone within his Aura range, which is the burst radius of the normal spell.

As a magic item, this ability would be made as follows:
15th level caster x 8th level spell x 2000 gp for continuous effects. That is further multiplied, x 4, for a continuous effect that is normally 1 round/level. Then, as it would be slotless, multiply the whole x 2 again.

Total value as a magic item:

1,920,000 gp

Do i seem to be over reacting to this creature? CLW at will and giving the whole party the basic equivalency of both a Ring of Protection +4, Cloak of resistance +4, Protection from Evil and SR 25 against evil, all the time if within her aura radius. Plus, any evil creature must save vs Blindness any time they hit anyone under the aura in melee.

These are only two abilities of the creature, the rest of it's list (and is a 13th level cleric to boot) is just as impressive.

Would you, as a GM, allow this creature to accompany your party for 15 days for 15,500 gp? I think it is way overpowered for the cost.

Opinions? Thanks


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I think you're over reacting.

The party will have been using cure light wounds wands for 14 levels before the reach this point. The fact that they can now eschew the wand...it's no big deal. They'll save a little money on wands, but really probably not 15,000 gp worth of wands.

15,000 gp could buy 5,500 hp worth of healing from CLW wands (assuming average rolls).

As for holy aura...at 15th level everyone should have rings of protections and cloaks of resistance. Players would probably have at least a +3 of both, and the aura wont stack with it because they're the same type of bonus. So at best, they might be getting a +1 increase to saves and AC.

Lastly, there is the protection from evil effect and SR. Protection from evil effect can be obtained from an a combination of a wayfinder and a clear spindle ioun stone, a mere 1500 gp investment.

So that leaves the spell resistance and the blinding effect.

But you know, it should give you something.


you do not get to pick the type of outsider sent in planar ally, it is what ever gets sent to you


Yeah it seems fine to me.


Kefler wrote:
you do not get to pick the type of outsider sent in planar ally, it is what ever gets sent to you

After rereading, thanks!


Kefler wrote:
you do not get to pick the type of outsider sent in planar ally, it is what ever gets sent to you

You can ask for a specific, but the DM might be antagonistical


You can ask for a specific individual, not sure that you can ask for a specific 'type'. So, if you're on first name basis with a specific Ghaele, you're good to go.


Well, the op part of the Holy Aura is solved by the notes of SLA:

A spell-like ability usually has a limit on how often it can be used. A constant spell-like ability or one that can be used at will has no use limit; unless otherwise stated, a creature can only use a constant spell-like ability on itself.

So, the Holy Aura only effects the Ghaele herself. That isn't much of an issue anymore, =)


Swashbucklersdc wrote:
First, CLW, At will. After every combat, just spend time and heal the entire party to full, no use of any resources what so ever.

Boots of the Earth

Just swap a pair those around between party members after a fight. Infinite healing for 5000gp. "Resource expenditure" is pretty laughable past the lowest levels.


Swashbucklersdc wrote:

Well, the op part of the Holy Aura is solved by the notes of SLA:

A spell-like ability usually has a limit on how often it can be used. A constant spell-like ability or one that can be used at will has no use limit; unless otherwise stated, a creature can only use a constant spell-like ability on itself.

So, the Holy Aura only effects the Ghaele herself. That isn't much of an issue anymore, =)

That ability really isn't that good anyway. Resistance and deflection bonuses should be hovering aroung the +4 mark by level 15 anyway: it is unlikely that the azata is contributing more than a +1 AC to any party members. Shield has been providing a +4 AC since level one and it isn't broken - and is much more likely to stack with things than this.

Having it apply to the whole party is hardly game breaking. In 3.5 it affected the whole party (google ghaele eladrin) but this was lost in the translation: presumably due to the converter not being aware of that specific SLA rule rather than any balance concerns.

You've looked at the advantages of the ghaele (infinite HP and aura buff) and judged them as if applied to a low level character instead of (rightfully) on a 15th level character, where they are minor at best.

Don't knee-jerk, yo!

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