Can a medium Titan Maulers use Twin Dwarven waraxes at level three with the two weapon fighting feat? I know there's a bunch of attack penalties, but just love the idea of a dwarven barbarian running around with two giant axes.
Every (insert martial class here) dwarf can do that, dwarven waraxes are considered one handed weapons for them. You'll eat -4 on each attack but it's possible.
If you weren't a dwarf, then what you needed was the proficiency in that exotic weapon. Or, at last, what you said.
Or maybe you are trying to wield 2 large dwarven waraxes?
If this is the case, then you need Titan Mauler at 3rd level.
I think No-one of Importance meant he wants to wield dual, large dwarven waraxes.
Off-hand, I can't think of anything that lets you one-hand a larger one-handed weapon.
I think Titan Mauler finally got errata that allowed it to work with bigger weapons, but I might be wrong on that.
It used to be that while it reduced the penalty for wielding oversized weapons, it didn't actually allow you to wield any weapons that were larger than what you could normally wield. You could wield a:
large one-handed weapon as a two handed weapon
huge light weapon as a two-handed weapon
But you couldn't wield a large greatsword because it's weapon size category would become more than two-handed, which means you can't wield it.
If No-One of Importance did mean large dwarven waraxes, then he could not wield two unless titan mauler received an errata (which I think they did).
However, the Titan Fighter Archetype for fighter did definitely get the ability to wield oversized weapons.
even with the errata it wont work. it allows them to wield larger 2handed weapons with a bigger penalty. Since the onehanded becomes a 2handed when it's bigger, and he still can only dual wield 2handed that are meant for his side.
Exotic Weapon proficiency in Dwarven Waraxe makes it a one handed weapon. Titan Mauler's Massive Weapons ability allows you to wield two handed weapons "meant for creatures one size category larger". A Large sized Dwarven Waraxe is a two handed weapon meant for creatures one size larger than the dwarf. Having Massive Weapons and taking Exotic Weapon proficiency in Dwarven Waraxe allows the wielder to use them one handed.
Wielding the weapon does not change it's handedness. He could not do this with a Greatsword because of this ruling as the FAQ says. And even when doing so he still takes a -4 penalty for it being inappropriately sized (that decreases to -3 at 6th).
My advice is get to 6th level Titan Mauler/5th level Two Weapon Warrior ASAP. This will decrease the penalties to only -1. I also suggest taking Reckless Abandon Rage Power and you will very quickly be in the positives. Forget bumping your armor up, it is a lost cause. Get some mithril medium armor and be done with it. Instead push your Con and Str as high as you can as often as you can. Take rage powers that help mitigate damage.
Chess Pwn, that isn't right. Read the FAQ. It specifically states that they cannot wield weapons too big for their size.
A Dwarven Waraxe is listed as a one handed weapon.
Can a Medium titan mauler wield a Large two-handed weapon, such as a Large greatsword?
No. The "Inappropriately Sized Weapons" rule says (in summary) that a creature can't wield an inappropriately-sized weapon if the size difference would increase it one or more "steps" beyond "two-handed." None of the titan mauler's abilities say the character can break the "steps" part of the "Inappropriately Sized Weapons" rule, so the character still has to follow that rule.
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The new errata does let a titan mauler use large sized two-handed weapons.
Page 30—In the Titan Mauler archetype, in the Massive Weapons entry, before the second sentence, add “She can use two-handed weapons meant for creatures one size category larger, but the penalty for doing so is increased by 4.” Change the beginning of the following sentence from “The” to “However, the”.
Chess Pwn, that isn't right. Read the FAQ. It specifically states that they cannot wield weapons too big for their size.
A Dwarven Waraxe is listed as a one handed weapon.
Can a Medium titan mauler wield a Large two-handed weapon, such as a Large greatsword?
No. The "Inappropriately Sized Weapons" rule says (in summary) that a creature can't wield an inappropriately-sized weapon if the size difference would increase it one or more "steps" beyond "two-handed." None of the titan mauler's abilities say the character can break the "steps" part of the "Inappropriately Sized Weapons" rule, so the character still has to follow that rule.
before you call somebody out as being wrong you should check to make sure you're working off the most recent rules.
Warhammer is 2handed weapon. Feat makes it 1handed. Getting it larger makes it 2handed again as it's not meant for your size. Titan Mauler Barbs can 2wf with 2handed meant for him. Thus He can't do it with 2 large hammers as they are 2handed and not meant for you, but can use 2 normal hammers since they are just one-handed with the feat, or 2handed but meant for your size.
I am working off the most recent rules. They are here and say:
Barbarian--Titan Mauler: Does the Jotungrip class feature (page 30) allow the Titan Mauler to use oversized weapons?
No. Jotungrip allows the titan mauler to use two-handed melee weapons in one hand, but only if the weapon is appropriately sized for the character. The massive weapon class feature allows her to use oversized weapons with decreased penalty, but does not allow her to use two-handed weapons of that size in one hand.
And since the Waraxe (not warhammer, not sure where that came in) is NOT a two handed weapon of that size and IS a one handed weapon of that size they CAN use them one handed when they have the Exotic Weapon Proficiency to do so.
I am working off the most recent rules. They are here and say:
Barbarian--Titan Mauler: Does the Jotungrip class feature (page 30) allow the Titan Mauler to use oversized weapons?
No. Jotungrip allows the titan mauler to use two-handed melee weapons in one hand, but only if the weapon is appropriately sized for the character. The massive weapon class feature allows her to use oversized weapons with decreased penalty, but does not allow her to use two-handed weapons of that size in one hand.
That is not the most recent rule. As ChessPwn says, there was actual errata (not FAQ) that was released.
Edit: And Kintrik quoted it above in this thread.
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A Large sized Dwarven Waraxe is a two handed weapon meant for creatures one size larger than the dwarf. Having Massive Weapons and taking Exotic Weapon proficiency in Dwarven Waraxe allows the wielder to use them one handed.
Not really. Large Size Dwarven Waraxes, Bastard Swords, and Estocs are exotic one handed weapons meant for creatures one size larger than the dwarf that can be wielded as a martial weapon two handed. This means with the proper EWP, you can wield a large Bastard Sword two-handed without any special rules. The iconic barbarian does this. But it can still only be wielded in two hands by a medium character with the proper EWP.
Nothing in Titan Mauler post errata allows you to wield a large one handed weapon in one hand. Jotungrip doesn't apply because the two-handed weapon must be appropriately sized for you, and Massive Weapons only allow you to wield a large two-handed weapon in two hands.
Jotungrip (Ex): At 2nd level, a titan mauler may choose to wield a two-handed weapon in one hand with a –2 penalty on attack rolls while doing so. The weapon must be appropriately sized for her, and it is treated as one-handed when determining the effect of Power Attack, Strength bonus to damage, and the like. This ability replaces uncanny dodge.Massive Weapons (Ex): At 3rd level, a titan mauler becomes skilled in the use of massive weapons looted from her titanic foes. She can use two-handed weapons meant for creatures one size category larger, but the penalty for doing so is increased by 4. However, the attack roll penalty for using weapons too large for her size is reduced by 1, and this reduction increases by 1 for every three levels beyond 3rd (to a minimum of 0). This ability replaces trap sense.
I was not aware of the newest rules from the errata. Thank you for pointing that out. I stand by my statement as being correct... pre-errata. ;)
@Chess Pwn: I wasn't calling you out to make you look stupid or anything. In fact, I wasn't even trying to call you out. I was just trying to point out that per the rules that I had been aware of at the time that what you were saying was not correct. No need to take offense and get all snippy. No harm, no foul. Water under the bridge and all that.
Just to provide a bit of history on the issue:
The first printing of the rules on Titan Mauler were just plain terrible and needed to be fixed as they just did not work as intended. They are here:
At 2nd level, a titan mauler may choose to wield a two-handed melee weapon in one hand with a –2 penalty on attack rolls while doing so. The weapon must be appropriately sized for her, and it is treated as one-handed when determining the effect of Power Attack, Strength bonus to damage, and the like.
Massive Weapons (Ex)
At 3rd level, a titan mauler becomes skilled in the use of massive weapons looted from her titanic foes. The attack roll penalty for using weapons too large for her size is reduced by 1, and this reduction increases by 1 for every three levels beyond 3rd (to a minimum of 0).
After that the original developer, Jason Nelson, made a very nice post on the subject clarifying his intent here. His intent goes against what I said the ruling was but that is because the change that I was referring to (and, infact, quoted) allowed for what I was stating.
Apparently since the errata they have now double backed on their intent yet again. Thus my actual best advice is to simply not use this archetype as it is likely that once you get it built, start playing it, get it to a level where you can do what you want to do it will likely just get changed again and no longer work the way you were intending.
You have two people who say you're wrong and outdated, and then rather than going and checking to make sure you actually are using the most up to date info you assert that you ARE using the most up to date info.
You done? I admitted that I am wrong under the current rules. I'm not sure what more you are looking for here.