
Letric |

What do you guys think? Which one should I take?
Honestly, the Faerie Dragon has this advantage:
http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fo#v5748eaic9qps
He IS a sorcerer, that means free 1-3 lvl Wands and no worrying about putting points into UMD.
But the Azata has 20 CHA (against 16 from Dragon), but overall it's almost the same, because Dragon only wins by 1.
Dragon
3 Class + 3 CHA + 7 ranks=13
Azata
5 CHA + 7 Ranks=12
I looked at both of them, and I really like them both! They both look cute enough, are same alignment as me, which is great, and they speak my languages.
So, I mostly need your help on deciding according to their abilities. Which one more likely to survive? I know I can conjure another familiar, but there's a special bond, I don't wanna treat familiars like NPCs, it's a part of me.

Letric |

Being a sorcerer the faerie dragon can use all the wands of wizard spells (that is up to level 4 spells) and the scrolls (up to cl 3 without checks)
The azata has constant detect evil tho
No familiar or improved familiar can use scrolls, read is somewhere by someone from PFS or a dev, can't recall.
The BIG point on favor of the Dragon is the being a sorcerer. That means not worrying on UMD (unless I really want low level divine spells).
On the other hand I feel like Azata has more utility with Truespeech (fast way to speak to intelligent summons for example), constat detec magic/evil, DR5/Cold Iron

DM-DR |

To me the pros of each are:
Faerie Dragon: Greater Invisibility, Uses same spell list as your character, telepathy.
Azata: Different spells from caster (more options for wands to pick up), free debuff removal (though minor), *Truespeech.
If all you are really looking for is a wand using familiar for your arcane spells, the dragon works (and it's cool).
If you want more versatility (though either way they can still do the same things), go with the Lyrakien. Also, do not dismiss the power of commune.
Personally, I'd take the Azata.

Letric |

To me the pros of each are:
Faerie Dragon: Greater Invisibility, Uses same spell list as your character, telepathy.
Azata: Different spells from caster (more options for wands to pick up), free debuff removal (though minor), *Truespeech.
If all you are really looking for is a wand using familiar for your arcane spells, the dragon works (and it's cool).
If you want more versatility (though either way they can still do the same things), go with the Lyrakien. Also, do not dismiss the power of commune.
Personally, I'd take the Azata.
Yeah, I'm leaning more towards the Azata, because I want an overall utility familiar.
Still, I would need like 10k to make it to 20 UMD. I'm guessing the Circlet of Persuasion and a +5 UMD Item would be enough.
Is Commune really that useful? I mean, 6 questions is a lot!

DM-DR |

Yeah, I'm leaning more towards the Azata, because I want an overall utility familiar.Still, I would need like 10k to make it to 20 UMD. I'm guessing the Circlet of Persuasion and a +5 UMD Item would be enough.
Is Commune really that useful? I mean, 6 questions is a lot!
Well, you have to remember that the questions are mostly specific to your deity (choose wisely ;)) or it is another deity with the same alignment. In the right situations, you basically get six tries to come up with a question that will give you very important information. It is almost like getting to ask your GM "how useful is this" or "what should we do next." Okay, maybe not that good, but still, anytime you can get some free in-game information/help, take it!

Letric |

Letric wrote:Well, you have to remember that the questions are mostly specific to your deity (choose wisely ;)) or it is another deity with the same alignment. In the right situations, you basically get six tries to come up with a question that will give you very important information. It is almost like getting to ask your GM "how useful is this" or "what should we do next." Okay, maybe not that good, but still, anytime you can get some free in-game information/help, take it!
Yeah, I'm leaning more towards the Azata, because I want an overall utility familiar.Still, I would need like 10k to make it to 20 UMD. I'm guessing the Circlet of Persuasion and a +5 UMD Item would be enough.
Is Commune really that useful? I mean, 6 questions is a lot!
It's a roleplaying tool, I like it. Like Speak with Dead. I'm trying to figure out now if my Azata counts as a Spellcaster for a class because of this FAQ http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fo#v5748eaic9qps .
Anyway, I'm going with her, of course she is a lady. I really like the idea of she having CLW and being more sturdy, will make it easier to be safe.

andreww |
If you go to the Faerie Dragon and this is for PFS. There has been a ruling that Faerie Dragon do NOT have levels in sorcerer, so no sorcerer's spell list.
I am not aware of any such ruling however the Faaerie Dragon is not freely available in PFS as it is not within the additional resources entry for Bestiary 3. There is one available as a chronicle boon.
I would consider the pseudodragon as an alternate. It doesn't have caster levels but 60' blindsense and telepathy are not to be sniffed at.

Letric |

Matt2VK wrote:If you go to the Faerie Dragon and this is for PFS. There has been a ruling that Faerie Dragon do NOT have levels in sorcerer, so no sorcerer's spell list.I am not aware of any such ruling however the Faaerie Dragon is not freely available in PFS as it is not within the additional resources entry for Bestiary 3. There is one available as a chronicle boon.
I would consider the pseudodragon as an alternate. It doesn't have caster levels but 60' blindsense and telepathy are not to be sniffed at.
Where do you guys keep getting this info about PFS? I mean, my DM is ok with letting me use most of the things as long as it makes sense, but I can't find this PFS rules.
I'm mostly going through d20pfsrd

Errant_Epoch |

PFS is the Pathfinder Society. It's rules for gaming at conventions and gaming stores and the like. It has some different rules and restrictions to help with balance and transience of characters. You should be able to take a legal PFS registered character to any PFS table that is of the right level range and play. So they don't allow magic item creation feats for example because they can distort player wealth etc. It sounds like you are playing with a home GM and in that case it only matters what they approve or disapprove of.
PFS guides:
http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4

Matt2VK |
The PFS ruling is some obscure post, which I can't find in the mass of posts, made by one of the head honchos for PFS gave a ruling on who, what, and how familiars can UMD when playing in a Pathfinder Society Game.
To use wands or scrolls from a spell list you needed class levels that gave access to those spells. Otherwise creatures that have spells or SLA, those are treated like the trait bonuses that give you a spell. Having those 'trait spells' does not give you access to that classes spell list.
Only reason I know this is I played with a GM that knows the PFS rules forward and backward and reads all the posts. I got called on it and he even showed me the post about it after the game.

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I think that, mechanically, they are close enough that it essentially makes little or no difference.
So, I'd strongly advise just taking whichever seems COOLER and more fun to you or that fits better with the character.
Remember that Faerie Dragons are quite mischievous which means that the GM SHOULD occassionally have them do stuff not necessarily in exact line with what the character wants. Which can be hilarious or frustrating depending on GM and player.
For my Duettist Bard, it was Azata all the way. How could a bard NOT have a little faerie as her backup singer? :-). But if my Kitsune character ever gets a familiar it will CLEARLY be a Faerie Dragon

vorpaljesus |
My wizard has the lyrakien and she's been ridiculously useful. That's a very fast fly speed, especially when hasted, plus FoM. She's been able to chase guys down and at least let us know where they go after they escape from a battle.
Truespeech is super handy.
The greater invisibility of the faerie dragon shouldn't be overlooked though.
You wont go wrong either way.