Stacking Wisdom Bonuses to AC

[Grooven]

If I build a character with levels in monk and warpriest (sacred fist archetype) do I get the wisdom bonus to AC twice or do the bonuses not stack because they are the same type (wisdom bonus).

[Chess Pwn]

they don't stack

[DM_Kumo Gekkou]

The wisdom to AC stacks by RAW (one is from an Ex ability and one is from a Su ability and both are unnamed, the very definition of things that stack).

[prototype00]

Used to be ambiguous, due to a recent faq, is pretty clear cut they don't stack.

prototype00

[Darksol the Painbringer]

Grooven wrote:

If I build a character with levels in monk and warpriest (sacred fist archetype) do I get the wisdom bonus to AC twice or do the bonuses not stack because they are the same type (wisdom bonus).

No. No. No. No. No. A thousand times no.

Did I forget to say no?

[Melkiador]

Weird. I never noticed, but there isn't a single Monk archetype that trades the AC bonus.

[Secret Wizard]

DM_Kumo Gekkou wrote:

The wisdom to AC stacks by RAW (one is from an Ex ability and one is from a Su ability and both are unnamed, the very definition of things that stack).

100% incorrect as mentioned.

THEY DO NOT STACK. Both are untyped bonuses from the same source.

Melkiador wrote:

Weird. I never noticed, but there isn't a single Monk archetype that trades the AC bonus.

Ironskin Hobgoblin Monks.

[Grooven]

Do ability modifiers from the same ability stack? For instance, can you add the same ability bonus on the same roll twice using two different effects that each add that same ability modifier?

No. An ability bonus, such as "Strength bonus", is considered to be the same source for the purpose of bonuses from the same source not stacking. However, you can still add, for instance “a deflection bonus equal to your Charisma modifier” and your Charisma modifier. For this purpose, however, the paladin's untyped "bonus equal to her Charisma bonus (if any) on all saving throws" from divine grace is considered to be the same as "Charisma bonus (if any)", and the same would be true for any other untyped "bonus equal to her [ability score] bonus" constructions.

Thanks for mentioning the FAQ. I found this, I think it makes it pretty clear that they don't stack.

[James Risner]

Grooven wrote:

wisdom bonus to AC twice

Same thing twice never stacks unless they are dodge bonuses, racial bonuses, or circumstances from separate circumstances.

[thorin001]

James Risner wrote:

Grooven wrote:

wisdom bonus to AC twice

Same thing twice never stacks unless they are dodge bonuses, racial bonuses, or circumstances from separate circumstances.

Or untyped bonuses that do not reference a stat.

[James Risner]

thorin001 wrote:

Or untyped bonuses that do not reference a stat.

Actually, no.

Untyped bonuses that do not reference a stat won't stack if they come from the same source.

10x Orange Ioun Stones don't stack to be +10 to CL.

[thorin001]

James Risner wrote:

thorin001 wrote:

Or untyped bonuses that do not reference a stat.

Actually, no.

Untyped bonuses that do not reference a stat won't stack if they come from the same source.

10x Orange Ioun Stones don't stack to be +10 to CL.

That is an additional restriction on untyped bonuses, not a negation of the one I listed.