Attack of opportunity on spells

[DrgnMstrAlex]

Just wondering what the forums think on this. Would you take an attack of opportunity on scorching ray if you successfully cast it defensively. Reason being you have to make a ranged touch attack as part of the spell.

[Kess, Humble Servant of Abadar]

Yes. If within threatened range. The ranged attack still provokes, even if the spell is cast defensively.

[Andrew Christian]

Agreed with Dave Baker

[Gamerskum]

If you don't cast defensively would you then provoke twice for people with combat reflexes?

[Sebastian Hirsch]

Gamerskum wrote:

If you don't cast defensively would you then provoke twice for people with combat reflexes?

Yes.

[Jeff Merola]

The FAQ says yes.

[The Fox]

Agreed. Also this should be in the Rules Questions forum.

[Fomsie]

Ludicrous FAQ, but yes.

[Nefreet]

Sebastian Hirsch wrote:

Gamerskum wrote:

If you don't cast defensively would you then provoke twice for people with combat reflexes?

Yes.

No.

Failure to cast defensively means losing the spell, not incurring an Attack of Opportunity.

[Pirate Rob]

Not a failure to cast defensivly, just not doing it.

[DesolateHarmony]

To clear up the previous two posts:

If you attempt to cast defensively and fail the roll, the spell is lost. It isn't cast but the slot is used up. There is no provocation.

If you cast a spell while threatened without attempting to cast defensively, you provoke an attack of opportunity.

And, from earlier:

If you make a ranged attack while threatened, you provoke an attack of opportunity. This is a separate provocation from the casting of a spell, and so both would apply. An opponent with Combat Reflexes could hit you twice.

[TGMaxMaxer]

And to add to that, if you happen to be high enough to fire multiple rays, each ray provokes an AoO.

Multiple ranged attacks in a round count as multiple separate threats.

[Nefreet]

That would be incorrect, regarding Scorching Ray.

[TGMaxMaxer]

Hmmmm. When they said it wasn't simultaneous for things like sneak attack, the logical conclusion was that it wasn't simultaneous for things like provoking as well.

[Diego Rossi]

Note that if you are hit by the AoO for the ranged attack you don't risk to lose the spell. It has already been cast.

[Paladin of Baha-who?]

This was clearly done for a balance reason, not for verisimilitude.