Made a map of Brevoy and the surrounding kingdoms (Iobaria, stolen lands, etc.)


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Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Hello there!

I've been working on this project for a while, it's the first time i've tried making an actual big scale map like this (I only worked on small hand-drawn maps before), and any feedback is welcome !

Imgur Album

I especially would like any errors pointed out if possible (typos, wrong names, missing locations, misplaces locations, etc..)

Tell me what you think !

The Exchange

Great Job!! The hardest part has always been east of Stolen Lands with Iobaria and unto Galt.


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Thanks!
That's actually the very reason I started making this map, I got frustrated with the lack of maps/information about that area, especially since the stolen lands (more specifically the dunsward) go really close to it but it's never mentionned clearly what's there.

After that, I figured I could make it bigger to include more things, since the first goal was to use it for a custom Brevoy campaign i'm preparing. It got kinda big though, so much I had to split the photoshop project into multiple files :P

The Exchange

have you tried to put 12 mile hexes on it? There was a compiled map of stolen lands a while back that expanded into brevoy.


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I like your maps. I haven't done any location/site doublechecking but the overall presentation is very nice.

May want to flag the thread to move to Kingmaker section? Not sure tho.


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Haven't tried adding hexes no, although it'd surprise me if it works well, I tried to make it fit to the inner sea maps more than anything and I had had to warp a lot of the stolen lands to make it fit.

This isn't specifically focused on the stolen lands and kingmaker, It's for a homebrew brevoy campaign. Although if you think it should, feel free to flag it/move it there!

The Exchange

warping is the only way. I was doing a kingmakerish campaign from the south though. there official maps dont work together. Yours is the best I have seen.


Looking at the Nations map: Who owns the southeast corner (Steppes of Casmaron, on the west side of the Castrovin Sea)?


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I'll try the hexes, I had not considered it but it might be useful to other people. I might also try to convert the KM scale to miles (I originally made this map in french and thought an english version would be useful to the community).

I did a ton of work and research to make those maps fit and compromise in the best way, there's inconsistencies between different sources which makes it complicated.
For example, the more recent version of the Brevoy map (from kingmaker), has a completely different scale, and since the previous version was from the inner sea maps, everything would fit perfectly including the scale. So I had to compromise and take the older scale (but very slightly increased). The newer version also slightly warps stuff like mountains, rivers and coasts, so it was tricky to make it all fit.

I'm happy with the result, I wanted a consistent source that included all the different areas reconciled into one map, and I think i've succeeded.

The one thing that i'm missing are the various small locations of the stolen lands that some people might want. I keep finding maps with names on them, but I have a hard time knowing what those places are or if they're even real places (I remember seeing "Elkwood" somewhere, but can't find a proper source, for example). So far i've put littletown and varnhold on the map, but I know there's a lot more stuff I could put there.

The Exchange

try here, it is a great resource
http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Pathfinder_Wiki


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Oh i've already searched all the different wikis when I had to put towns and places on the map, a lot of source searching for that (finding the size of settlements for example, which reminds me I need to make a legend to explain what the icons mean! Completely forgot).

I'll keep looking though!


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Just updated the maps to include a legend.

Also, if anyone's interested, here's the collage of source maps I used as a base for my map : Image

I'll keep you guys up to date on any updates.

If this project is in any way useful for your campaigns/adventures, let me know !


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Great job! Maybe PFWiki will add it to appropriate pages!
I would just merge each of the map types (natural, political, etc)
into one map with nations etc, presented as transparent/outlined,
so that all the info is viewable... But great job, again!

(what? no monsters in casmaron sea? ;-)


BTW, i could see all maps first time i visited link,
but now none of the map images load... (in sidebar they do)
...how weird...


UnArcaneElection wrote:
Looking at the Nations map: Who owns the southeast corner (Steppes of Casmaron, on the west side of the Castrovin Sea)?

Not yet detailed much in Campaign Setting AFAIK...

(horse nomads on periphery of, but not quite controlled by, Kelesh Empire is my guess)
But your mother would probably not approve of whoever it is.


Narolas wrote:

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Also, if anyone's interested, here's the collage of source maps I used as a base for my map : Image
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Strange -- that southeast corner next to the Castrovin Sea is de-res'd.


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

I re-uploaded some images, that might be why some of you had issues, let me know if you still can't see them.

Also, the bottom right corner of the map pretty much has no reference, in my collage i used the very approximate "world of golarion" map and put the corner of the castrovin sea there for good measure, but really that source is completely unreliable.

Quandary wrote:

I would just merge each of the map types (natural, political, etc)

into one map with nations etc, presented as transparent/outlined,
so that all the info is viewable... But great job, again!

I thought about it, the problem is it gets very hard to read anything at all. I can make a version with everything, but it won't be very pretty to look at!


What about make a version with everything, but make it BIG. (Admittedly might be a problem on mobile devices.)


Very nice effort, but the text is too small to read on several of the middle maps (1024 x 638 seems an odd choice, but for all I know, it could have been automated by imgur). The Terrain and Nations maps are quite good though. =]


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Unfortunately it was meant to be zoomed on, it's a very very big resolution (try to "open in full resolution" on imgur, should give you something like this : Link, click to zoom in).
The point was to have as much detail possible and be able to use this map as a reference for future projects (towns, dungeons, etc.). Sadly, this means most of the information is too small to read from afar.

I've been tinkering with things to try and put all of the information on one map, and I think i've found a way that doesn't look too crowded, i'll put it here once i'm done with it.

Thanks for the feedback, i've done a few mistakes on this project in terms of planning, I won't be making them again :)


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For anyone still interested, I've finally stopped tinkering with it, and here's the finished version :

Normal Version

And a political version as a bonus, mostly for my players when i'll be running campaigns, to have a rough political reference.

Political Version


Very nicely done! I don't have a campaign going in this particular area but this'll be great to keep in my pocket for when my players wander. =]

The Exchange

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I love these. Great work!


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Damn. Sorry for posting a lot so quickly.

I just noticed an almost insignificant error in one of the labels and I had to fix it, and unfortunately Imgur doesn't allow me to upload a new image while keeping the same URL.

So here goes for the new URLs :

Normal

Political


This is an incredibly cool project. Well done!


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Thanks ! I'm glad I made it.

For future people looking to download these, i'll just link the Imgur album and stop spamming this thread with new links (I just can't help making mistakes!).

Imgur Album


Love the maps, love the detail - thanks for an excellent job. I'm sure these will help many GMs using Brevoy/Kingmaker as their base of operations.

Scarab Sages

Dotting for downloading later. Great looking maps!

Shadow Lodge

The website you linked to keeps crashing firefox.

Shadow Lodge

But I like the map.


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The geographic and political maps are also now on PathfinderWiki. Click on the map image for the full-res version. (And thanks to Narolas for his permission to use them!)


Is there an English version available of the high-resolution files?


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I have both english and french but It looks like I linked the french version by mistake to the pathfinder wiki, my bad. will link the correct ones.


Awesome map, Narolas! My entire Kingmaker group loved it and asked me to convey their thanks for your hard work. Merci encore pour tous ce que vous avez fait!


dot because: g'damn, nice map.


I really got held up on the first map because I couldn't decide if you are insane or not. Then I saw there are many more maps and made a decision. Beautiful work!

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