What if Pathfinder is just one big, complicated game of CLUE?


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion


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Who killed Aroden? That is what it all boils down to, my friends. All the PF adventure paths, the Inner Sea Guide, all we learn about Golarian. After countless quests the main mystery to be solved is Adroden's abrupt and mysterious death. It had to have been murder...

But who did it? And where? And with what weapon?

Was it Shelyn with Asmodeus' Mace in Elysium?

Was it Calistra with Zon-Kuthon's spiked chain in Abandon?

Or was it Nethys with Lamashtu's kukris in the Firmament?

Perhaps only a party of high level PC's who can pass the test of the Starstone together can effectively investigate this case.

Pathfinder = Clue

Silver Crusade

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Mythic Level Gunslinger: It was me, with the pistol in the hallway. Now I'm going to go home and sleep with my wife!

But that's just one way it could have happened!

Scarab Sages

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And I thought this was a discussion of the Murder on the Throaty Mermaid scenario...

Shadow Lodge

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Shelia Heidmarch, in the dining room with a starknife.


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One of these days Paizo will write an AP where the players go back in time and become involved in the events that led up to the death of Aroden. It will be awesome.

James Jacobs will announce it while standing atop a flaming pile of wreckage and laughing maniacly.

The Exchange

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It was Aroden from the past, killing future-Aroden in order to prevent a descent into madness that would have made Rovagug look like Strawberry Shortcake.

Sometimes knowing the future is a bad thing. ;)

Grand Lodge

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My first suspect is whichever character was being played by Tim Curry.


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Rovey has always been strawberry shortcake.


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I guess I just sort of figured Aroden didn't die. Aroden...Aaron... Elvis Aaron Presley... it makes sense. I picture Aroden, out there somewhere with a sequin jumpsuit, sideburns and a bucket of fried chicken singing Blue Suede Shoes to another plane of existence.


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It was James Jacobs, in the Library, with a pen.

Grand Lodge

Lincoln Hills wrote:

It was Aroden from the past, killing future-Aroden in order to prevent a descent into madness that would have made Rovagug look like Strawberry Shortcake.

Sometimes knowing the future is a bad thing. ;)

Did it play out like those twin scenes from Jim Starlin's classic Warlock series? Where Warlock destroys the soul of his future self to prevent the birth of the Magus?


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Actually I think the Pathfinder society is responsible.

And they are siphoning off his life force to power their machinations throughout Golarion.

His body is actually being slowly devoured in the Worldwound, which was opened in the massive energy release when he was struck down.

Just look at the timeline in the Inner Sea World Guide. Aroden dies, and the Worldwound opens the same year.

All of this was masterminded by Iomedae, in order to steal his portfolio and worshippers unto herself.


So the Pathfinder Society is secretly run by Iomedae... who is in league with the demons of the worldwound...

O.O

Shadow Lodge

And Pharasma kept her mouth shut for a cut of the souls

Shadow Lodge

What if secretly Aroden is still alive, but has been kidnapped by Iomedae as part of her evil scheme? Or is paying Pharasma to hide him from Iomedae? Maybe its all a Conspiracy?


It was TOZ in the HoustonDerick with an evil thread post straight through the Kirth....


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Goblins did it with a dogslicer.

Scarab Sages

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"Groetus hangs in the form of a bloated moon above Pharasma's Boneyard in the Outer Sphere, silently watching. Only the other gods know whether the moon itself is the god, or merely his dwelling place, and they have proven reluctant to discuss the matter. Adventurous folk who have braved the surface of this place are either never heard from again, or are discovered soon after as the newest of the god's insane faithful.[3] It is unknown what role Groetus will play in the End Times."

Hypothesis: Groetus = Second Coming of Aroden.


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My hypothesis: no one did it. One day, when people least expect it, Asmodeus will pull off a mask and reveal that he was Aroden the entire time.

Also that he's your PC's father. Even if you're not human.


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I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:

"Groetus hangs in the form of a bloated moon above Pharasma's Boneyard in the Outer Sphere, silently watching. Only the other gods know whether the moon itself is the god, or merely his dwelling place, and they have proven reluctant to discuss the matter. Adventurous folk who have braved the surface of this place are either never heard from again, or are discovered soon after as the newest of the god's insane faithful.[3] It is unknown what role Groetus will play in the End Times."

Hypothesis: Groetus = Second Coming of Aroden.

We got death star

We got death star
We got death star
We got death star


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Ventnor wrote:
My hypothesis: no one did it. One day, when people least expect it, Asmodeus will pull off a mask and reveal that he was Aroden the entire time.

"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling adventurers!"


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Spook205 wrote:

Now I'm going to go home and sleep with my wife!

Every time I say that at work I get the strangest looks.


I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:

"Groetus hangs in the form of a bloated moon above Pharasma's Boneyard in the Outer Sphere, silently watching. Only the other gods know whether the moon itself is the god, or merely his dwelling place, and they have proven reluctant to discuss the matter. Adventurous folk who have braved the surface of this place are either never heard from again, or are discovered soon after as the newest of the god's insane faithful.[3] It is unknown what role Groetus will play in the End Times."

Hypothesis: Groetus = Second Coming of Aroden.

I'm not sure if this is in jest or not. Hasn't Groetus been around since roughly the same time as all of the original gods of Golarion?

Aroden became a god with starstone, so it seems doubtful Groetus could be Aroden's reincarnation or second coming.

If this was in jest, then I'm sorry I've ruined it.


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LazarX wrote:
My first suspect is whichever character was being played by Tim Curry.

You mean Asmodeus?


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Sissyl wrote:
I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:

"Groetus hangs in the form of a bloated moon above Pharasma's Boneyard in the Outer Sphere, silently watching. Only the other gods know whether the moon itself is the god, or merely his dwelling place, and they have proven reluctant to discuss the matter. Adventurous folk who have braved the surface of this place are either never heard from again, or are discovered soon after as the newest of the god's insane faithful.[3] It is unknown what role Groetus will play in the End Times."

Hypothesis: Groetus = Second Coming of Aroden.

We got death star

We got death star
We got death star
We got death star

It is a moon!


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Claxon wrote:
I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:

"Groetus hangs in the form of a bloated moon above Pharasma's Boneyard in the Outer Sphere, silently watching. Only the other gods know whether the moon itself is the god, or merely his dwelling place, and they have proven reluctant to discuss the matter. Adventurous folk who have braved the surface of this place are either never heard from again, or are discovered soon after as the newest of the god's insane faithful.[3] It is unknown what role Groetus will play in the End Times."

Hypothesis: Groetus = Second Coming of Aroden.

I'm not sure if this is in jest or not. Hasn't Groetus been around since roughly the same time as all of the original gods of Golarion?

Aroden became a god with starstone, so it seems doubtful Groetus could be Aroden's reincarnation or second coming.

If this was in jest, then I'm sorry I've ruined it.

Aroden did not die. Instead, he traveled into the past (or maybe was forced into past by accident) and become Groetus. Somewhere in "mean time" (i.e. after stopping being Aroden but before emerging in the past as Groetus) he stole the Eox moon (which was weaponized by Eoxians) and infused it with divine power and now it acts as his seat of power/throne room/tomb. It might have played a vital role in chaining of Rovagug at one time.

EDIT: Or the moon wasn't Eoxian... It could be the moon of one of the Twins - Damiar or Iovo - planets that were destroyed and turned into Diaspora. Maybe he caused the catastrophe that destroyed Twins or maybe he saved the moon from the catastrophe?


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Yo' momma's so fat, Obi-wan said, "that's no moon, that's yo momma!"


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Oh man. Now I *really* want Pathfinder Clue.

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Desna, Groetus, Sarenrae and Aroden walked into a dark room. One of them had to be sacrificed to Cthulhu so that they might grow stronger through his might. And I just left a Poker Game with the other 3.

Liberty's Edge

Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
Yo' momma's so fat, Obi-wan said, "that's no moon, that's yo momma!"

Yo' momma's so ugly, she could petrify Medusa!


Wait I thought we all knew this?

Hasbro owns clue. Hasbro owns D&D. Pathfinder is refined and expanded D&D just like D&D refined and expanded clue.


Theconiel wrote:
Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
Yo' momma's so fat, Obi-wan said, "that's no moon, that's yo momma!"
Yo' momma's so ugly, she could petrify Medusa!

Yo' momma's so dumb, she thinks Jar-Jar comes with pickles-pickles!

Webstore Gninja Minion

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Marcus Robert Hosler wrote:

Wait I thought we all knew this?

Hasbro owns clue. Hasbro owns D&D. Pathfinder is refined and expanded D&D just like D&D refined and expanded clue.

Well, there is this...


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Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
Theconiel wrote:
Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
Yo' momma's so fat, Obi-wan said, "that's no moon, that's yo momma!"
Yo' momma's so ugly, she could petrify Medusa!
Yo' momma's so dumb, she thinks Jar-Jar comes with pickles-pickles!

Yo' momma's so fat, she makes bloatmages look thin!


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Ventnor wrote:
Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
Theconiel wrote:
Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
Yo' momma's so fat, Obi-wan said, "that's no moon, that's yo momma!"
Yo' momma's so ugly, she could petrify Medusa!
Yo' momma's so dumb, she thinks Jar-Jar comes with pickles-pickles!
Yo' momma's so fat, she makes bloatmages look thin!

Yo' momma's so weak, she has to track encumbrance.

Scarab Sages

Yo' mama so nasty, Kuthites who have gravely sinned against their god are ordered to f#~~ her as penance!


I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:
Yo' mama so nasty, Kuthites who have gravely sinned against their god are ordered to f@!& her as penance!

That's just mean, man. We're keeping it light and friendly here.

Oh, and
Yo' momma's so fat, her ass has it's own congressman.


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Arcanemuses wrote:

Who killed Aroden? That is what it all boils down to, my friends. All the PF adventure paths, the Inner Sea Guide, all we learn about Golarian. After countless quests the main mystery to be solved is Adroden's abrupt and mysterious death. It had to have been murder...

But who did it? And where? And with what weapon?

Was it Shelyn with Asmodeus' Mace in Elysium?

Was it Calistra with Zon-Kuthon's spiked chain in Abandon?

Or was it Nethys with Lamashtu's kukris in the Firmament?

Perhaps only a party of high level PC's who can pass the test of the Starstone together can effectively investigate this case.

Pathfinder = Clue

Now I want to see a Clue: Golarian Gods edition

Liberty's Edge

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Aroden didn't die. His return to Golarion came as prophesied. The prophesies just neglected to mention that when he got back, he was going to move to Absalom and take the name "Drandle Dreng".

Scarab Sages

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rknop wrote:
Aroden didn't die. His return to Golarion came as prophesied. The prophesies just neglected to mention that when he got back, he was going to move to Absalom and take the name "Drandle Dreng".

I'm pretty sure "Grandmaster Torch" isn't that guy's actual name....


Drejk wrote:
Claxon wrote:
I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:

"Groetus hangs in the form of a bloated moon above Pharasma's Boneyard in the Outer Sphere, silently watching. Only the other gods know whether the moon itself is the god, or merely his dwelling place, and they have proven reluctant to discuss the matter. Adventurous folk who have braved the surface of this place are either never heard from again, or are discovered soon after as the newest of the god's insane faithful.[3] It is unknown what role Groetus will play in the End Times."

Hypothesis: Groetus = Second Coming of Aroden.

I'm not sure if this is in jest or not. Hasn't Groetus been around since roughly the same time as all of the original gods of Golarion?

Aroden became a god with starstone, so it seems doubtful Groetus could be Aroden's reincarnation or second coming.

If this was in jest, then I'm sorry I've ruined it.

Aroden did not die. Instead, he traveled into the past (or maybe was forced into past by accident) and become Groetus. Somewhere in "mean time" (i.e. after stopping being Aroden but before emerging in the past as Groetus) he stole the Eox moon (which was weaponized by Eoxians) and infused it with divine power and now it acts as his seat of power/throne room/tomb. It might have played a vital role in chaining of Rovagug at one time.

EDIT: Or the moon wasn't Eoxian... It could be the moon of one of the Twins - Damiar or Iovo - planets that were destroyed and turned into Diaspora. Maybe he caused the catastrophe that destroyed Twins or maybe he saved the moon from the catastrophe?

Aroden is forced back in time. This causes planets to explode. This sets the Starstone on a collision course with Golarion. This causes Aroden to become a god.

Oh, and he just appeared to me in a duster and some 80's velcro high tops and told me if I want to live I have to come with him. Dam time paradoxes...


Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
Spook205 wrote:

Now I'm going to go home and sleep with my wife!

Every time I say that at work I get the strangest looks.

Why, are you a plant?

Liberty's Edge

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SAMAS wrote:
Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
Spook205 wrote:

Now I'm going to go home and sleep with my wife!

Every time I say that at work I get the strangest looks.
Why, are you a plant?

A plant? I thought men like that were usually called a fruit.

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