What can a kobold do that a Goblin can't?


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So, Let loose the paragons of comedic relief and champions of the fodder!

So, what can a Kobold do that goblins can't? I mean, it seems to me Kobolds are just the rogue's of the midgetty cleaver-fodder races. I mean, atleast goblins can bit things... really well...


hatin' on rogues in your OP already puts a bad taste in my mouth. If you don't like rogues, don't play em!

Kobolds are more patient and more "home-bodies" than goblins. They're much more inclined to set traps and apply poisons to weapons, whereas goblins are more inclined to burn, pillage and openly attack.
Those are the main differences I see.


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Kobolds can govern a structured society and exercise self control?


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Kobolds can be made into an edible meal (they taste like chicken), where as goblins are just filth.


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Kobold can scream around when in danger calling out for daddy... which could be an ancient dragon.


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I could just say be awesome :) but I will go with ...

1. anything tail related as goblins don't have tails.


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Kobolds are Dragons.

Goblins are Vermin.


Kobolds get a racial effect on their CR. Lets you give them more levels for the same CR. Translation: 10d6 lighting bolts cast by 10th level adepts at lower CR than it normally is.

Same deal with warrior kobold archers. Nasty little guys with full BAB and just enough feats to make them into low level killing machines.

In general 1/4 CR NPCs allows for a lot of levels and if abused can make kobolds into party level 1-3 killing machines. Nobody exects the CR2 enemy to ignore sleep because it has 5HD? A CR2 that has a BAB of 5 and a racial bonus to dex AND 3 feats? At CR 2 that is a "reasonable" encounter for a first level party to encounter.


Kobolds prefer to eat human babies in front of their screaming mothers.

Goblins would just as soon eat the mothers first.


What can a kobold do that a Goblin can't?

Make baby kobolds......

Scarab Sages

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They can read.


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J. Chris Harris wrote:
They can read.

LOL. You immediately made me think of "A Way With Words", from Dungeon magazine, issue 41. Literate kobolds can be a great menace... to themselves.


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If they are run by a guy named Tucker, they can make 10th level characters wet themselves.

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ncfd?What-are-Tuckers-Kobolds


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Oh, you wanna go, kitty boy?

thorin001 wrote:
Kobolds can be made into an edible meal (they taste like chicken), where as goblins are just filth.

INCORRECT! The Kobolds Of Golarion book (which was totally not written by a kobold) clearly states that kobolds taste disgusting! So ha!

Ughbash wrote:

Kobolds are Dragons.

Goblins are Vermin.

Preach it!

David knott wrote:
Kobolds prefer to eat human babies in front of their screaming mothers.

It's a fact that the screaming makes the food 10% more delicious. The three "P"s of cooking are: Presentation, presentation, presentation.


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J. Chris Harris wrote:
They can read.

And that means they can post safety warning signs.

This is why goblins can't use traps very well: they forget where the traps are, and they can't make a record to check the placement. As such, they are more likely to catch themselves in their traps than any adventurers (if only for the fact that goblins tend to be in places goblins want to defend more often).


Also because their traps are f@~*ing stupid and kobold traps are better than anything ever.


Also because their traps are f#+&ing stupid and kobold traps are better than anything ever.


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...above, witness evidence of the kobolds' overwhelming numerical superiority.

Scarab Sages

How has nobody said "Lay an egg"?????


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Because we don't want to give the PCs ideas about omelets.

Scarab Sages

I play a Kobold sorc/dragon disciple now.

In our world, Kobolds lay large clutches of eggs, guarded by some of the "nest mothers" or something, and are raised as large generations at a time.

His personality is that of Dolorous Edd Tollet from the books ASoI&F by GRR Martin (Game of Thrones for you multimedia fans).

I had never given thought to a party of adventurers trapped in an underground Kobold lair deciding to make omelettes out of the eggs of Kobolds.

That's so delightfully twisted and gruesome.


Uh-oh. That backfired.


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I can see it now:

A swarm of goblins invades a Kobold nest in hopes of making omeletts...That would be the dumbest and most hilarious battle to see.

Scarab Sages

A slew of extremely awesome racial feats and archetypes themed around dragons and traps and being AWESOME!


Kobolds can be turned into jerky.


Don't make me break out Kobolds of Golarion, guys.

Kobolds don't taste good.


K177Y C47 wrote:

So, Let loose the paragons of comedic relief and champions of the fodder!

So, what can a Kobold do that goblins can't? I mean, it seems to me Kobolds are just the rogue's of the midgetty cleaver-fodder races. I mean, atleast goblins can bit things... really well...

Fit 6 of them in an encounter and it still be CR 1 (if they have significantly less than their expected NPC wealth then they get a -1 CR, which results in CR 1/6 kobolds). When it comes to swarming a party with lots of clever little critters at low CRs it's hard to beat kobolds.


not be a goblin.


Kobold Cleaver wrote:

Don't make me break out Kobolds of Golarion, guys.

Kobolds don't taste good.

Not to the palate of an orc.


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K177Y C47 wrote:

I can see it now:

A swarm of goblins invades a Kobold nest in hopes of making omeletts...That would be the dumbest and most hilarious battle to see.

"I'm a veteran of the first Great Breakfast War. So don't you go talking to me about syrup"


Penthau wrote:

If they are run by a guy named Tucker, they can make 10th level characters wet themselves.

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ncfd?What-are-Tuckers-Kobolds

Lets just put it this way... Nearly everyone knows about Tucker's Kobolds. What equivalent group of Goblins is there? Has any AP ever involved a decently threatening group of Goblins on par with T'sKs?


Kazaan wrote:
Penthau wrote:

If they are run by a guy named Tucker, they can make 10th level characters wet themselves.

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ncfd?What-are-Tuckers-Kobolds

Lets just put it this way... Nearly everyone knows about Tucker's Kobolds. What equivalent group of Goblins is there? Has any AP ever involved a decently threatening group of Goblins on par with T'sKs?

Here you go. This is from something I was helping Ravingdork with.

Ashiel's Goblins.


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Kobolds can be commando kobolds that will automatically hit your tower shield-wielding, ring of protection-wearing, full plate-clad character with fire arrows.


Maerimydra wrote:
Kobolds can be commando kobolds that will automatically hit your tower shield-wielding, ring of protection-wearing, full plate-clad character with fire arrows.

I love you so much sir. Hahaha.


Ashiel wrote:

Here you go. This is from something I was helping Ravingdork with.

Ashiel's Goblins.

Thanks for this. Its helping me prep for games more easily.

I doubt my players are as thankful, as they keep getting bombarded by alchemist fires and diseased arrow barrages delivered from stealth!


K177Y C47 wrote:

I can see it now:

A swarm of goblins invades a Kobold nest in hopes of making omeletts...That would be the dumbest and most hilarious battle to see.

Stealing this for one-shot ideas to run for people.

Liberty's Edge

Order takeout from a menu.


hmmmm yeeeessss. I would like 1 order of caviar, 2 pieces of toast, and 1 order os kobold egg, over easy.

Liberty's Edge

Find work in Absolom as a high-end trap smith.
Domesticate bulettes.
Make Golarion's answer to the television.

Silver Crusade

Kobolds can play cricket.


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Kobolds have many uses. You can use them to make boots, belts and designer handbags.

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