Scribing Scrolls with metamagic feats


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I know when casting from scrolls you don't use any of your feats or stats, that I'm clear on.

What I'm curious about is how this functions when I scribe my own scrolls. If I scribe a scroll, can I add metamagic feats to it, as long as I have slots of a high enough level when crafting it? Do the scrolls I scribe use my caster level (if I don't lower it deliberately)? And do the scrolls use my caster stat to set the DC, if any? Obviously once crafted these stats would be set in stone.

Clarity would be appreciated! Thanks!

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A Maximized Burning Hands spell is a 4th level scroll (for cost) with the DC of a 1st level spell. This is true even if you have a metamagic reducer that lowers it to less than 4th level, it is still 4th level on the scroll.


So that's how the cost works, good to know, and I'm assuming I cant exceed 9th level?

If I have reducers, such as Magical Lineage, would that still come into effect to determine the slot I consume when creating the scroll?

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Vastlyapparent wrote:

So that's how the cost works, good to know, and I'm assuming I cant exceed 9th level?

If I have reducers, such as Magical Lineage, would that still come into effect to determine the slot I consume when creating the scroll?

Can't exceed 9th on a scroll.

You would expend 2nd level slot (with both reducers) and the cost would be of a 4th level spell.

The general rule of metamagic and items is what is "worse" for the player. So it counts for the higher level spell (like ring of spell storing) for things that are bad for you and works like lower for things that are good (DC.)


Though, this made me think of a question. If you make scrolls with metamagic feats and give one to your party's spontaneous caster, is it a full round or standard action for them to cast it?

Grand Lodge

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Vastlyapparent wrote:

So that's how the cost works, good to know, and I'm assuming I cant exceed 9th level?

If I have reducers, such as Magical Lineage, would that still come into effect to determine the slot I consume when creating the scroll?

There is no mechanic for adding traits to a spell, so no it doesn't work.

The trait has to do with your personal biology, which you can't write to paper.


Can you write a scroll with the Quickened feat? Say a 5th level scroll of Quickened True Strike?

If so, is the scroll activation still a standard action? Or a swift action?

Dark Archive

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scrolls are always a minimum of a standard action. but if the casting time (summon monster as an example) is longer, then it takes the longer casting time. so quickened true strike is a standard action to cast.


... so a scroll of Quickened Summon Monster would be a standard action, instead of the 1-round spell Summon Monster usually is...


LazarX wrote:
Vastlyapparent wrote:

So that's how the cost works, good to know, and I'm assuming I cant exceed 9th level?

If I have reducers, such as Magical Lineage, would that still come into effect to determine the slot I consume when creating the scroll?

There is no mechanic for adding traits to a spell, so no it doesn't work.

The trait has to do with your personal biology, which you can't write to paper.

Do you even know what is being discussed here Lazar?

Magical Lineage is a trait that specifically alters magic spells. Whenever you apply metamagic to the selected spell, its new level is reduced by 1. (minimum wherever it started)

To make a scroll of Empowered Burning Hands, for example. This scroll costs what a 3rd level scroll costs to make. the DC is set from the spell being a first level spell. etc.

however, you only need to provide an Empowered burning Hands for the scroll creation process... and for you and your nifty magical lineage: burning hands... that only takes a 2nd level slot. So you only need to expend a 2nd level slot on creating this scroll.

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aceDiamond wrote:
scrolls with metamagic feats and give one to your party's spontaneous caster, is it a full round or standard action for them to cast it?

Standard

Cayzle wrote:

Can you write a scroll with the Quickened feat? Say a 5th level scroll of Quickened True Strike?

If so, is the scroll activation still a standard action? Or a swift action?

Standard

Midnight_Angel wrote:
... so a scroll of Quickened Summon Monster would be a standard action, instead of the 1-round spell Summon Monster usually is...

Yes limited to SM V as a 9th level scroll.


Huuu ? Can someone point me where it states we can add metamagic on scrolls please ?

I always wondered you couldn't add any of you feats in the scribing process, and one of my player wants to play a scroll crafter/user! Ôo

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