This thread is on behalf of a friend of mine who doesn't frequent the boards. She's playing a human oracle of lore, and is looking for a decent prestige class to level into.
She currently has the big three (Focused Trance, Sidestep Secret, and Lorekeeper) and has found that she has no interest in the higher level revelations of the lore mystery; Arcane Archivist is ultimately a waste, and the Spontaneous Symbology is too expensive to be use. Thus she find herself in the tricky situation of needing a way to advance her casting abilities without being "stuck" with useless abilities.
She's currently 8th level, and using the extra revelations feat, she's acquired all of the revelations she wants, and has nothing more to look forward to.
Any ideas?
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Would Loremaster be a possibility?
I don't know if oracle qualifies, and more specifically this one, but divine assessor is cool
Hell Knight Signifer (Enforcer) is interesting but might not fit.
Storm kindler from paths of presteige could be interesting.
I however would agree with Silver I would go loremaster unless she can't take the downgrades to bab and hd
I don't know if oracle qualifies, and more specifically this one, but divine assessor is cool
Hell Knight Signifer (Enforcer) is interesting but might not fit.
Storm kindler from paths of presteige could be interesting.
I however would agree with Silver I would go loremaster unless she can't take the downgrades to bab and hd
As far as I know, she's unconcerned about her bab; she has a low strength and tends to avoid melee, usually casting buffs or healing the party. So Loremaster may be an option, although I believe it would take her a while to qualify; at 8th level, she's taken extra revelation twice, along with improved initiative.
Loremaster requires three item creation or metamagic feats, plus skill focus.
She might not have a choice among prestige classes and would simply do best to multiclass. I can't recommend going the Oracle/Sorcerer/Mystic Theurge path... How's her Intelligence?
Her stats are:
Str 11
Dex 10
Con 18
Int 14
Wis 10
Cha 19
She's very durable, but otherwise sucks in hand to hand combat, being more of a researcher than a fighter. Her intelligence is decent and will likely increase if she takes a couple more levels in oracle (mental acuity revelation).
Sadly Pathfinder PrCs tend to be very specific fluff-wise, provide very weak features compared to base classes, and the casting ones also tend to lose a bunch of caster levels. Unless 3.5 materials are available, she's probably best off just sucking up worthless revelations and going straight Oracle. (And even if 3.5 materials are available, the prerequisites tend to be hostile to non-clerics.)
If she feels like she has used up all the good revelations and has already taken extra revelation a few times, she could always stay a single class oracle retrain the extra revelation feats whenever she gets a new revelation, picking the revelation she just retrained away, and getting new feats in their place. This could also help her qualify for a PrC she does not have the prerequisites for at the same time.
Here are a some solutions to your problem that do not involve prestige classes:
If retraining is allowed, she could consider retraining away the Extra Revelation feats as she is about to gain a level that grants a new revelation, then take the revelation retrained away as the revelation for level advancement.
If 3rd party products are allowed, the Strange Revelation feat from
Advanced Feats: Visions of the Oracle by Kobold Press would let her take one revelation from a different mystery.
Either or both of the above options might be enough to let your friend postpone leaving the oracle class before the end of your campaign.
Another 3rd party product option would be found in 101 Simple Archetypes by Rite Publishing. The Hybrid Oracle archetype would let her take levels in any other base class and advance her oracle spellcating (but no other oracle class abilities).
If D&D 3.5 material is allowed, then all sorts of options open up -- that game system is overflowing with prestige classes that advance divine spellcasting but no other class features.
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My good friend it all depends on what she wants to do with her PrC! For example, if she were to rework it slightly the classes Low Templar, Pathfinder Chronicler, Harrower, Divine Scion, Living Monolith, Sleepless Detective, Santified or Rage Prophet(Separate classes), or the Veiled Illusionist are available to her.
I love Prestige Classes. They're fun to conceptualize and prepare for. I have a Cleric/Harrower in a campaign, but that could have easily been an Oracle/Harrower if I so desired her to be one. The important deal is that she finds one that she really likes the sound of and for her to run with it.
My good friend it all depends on what she wants to do with her PrC! For example, if she were to rework it slightly the classes Low Templar, Pathfinder Chronicler, Harrower, Divine Scion, Living Monolith, Sleepless Detective, Santified or Rage Prophet(Separate classes), or the Veiled Illusionist are available to her.
I love Prestige Classes. They're fun to conceptualize and prepare for. I have a Cleric/Harrower in a campaign, but that could have easily been an Oracle/Harrower if I so desired her to be one. The important deal is that she finds one that she really likes the sound of and for her to run with it.
She says she'd like to keep her casting mostly in tact, but wouldn't mind losing a level or twoif the prestige class was cool enough.
I haven't really seen anyone play a Harrower before. How is the class, mechanics wise? I like the flavor, but having never seen it in play, can't help but wonder how it works.
PATHFINDER CHRONICLER. She be even better at buffing. And get free stuff, and pass out buffs in later levels.
Madness!
the problem I see with the chronicler is that you loose all casting. I would suggest the veiled illusionist. Interesting fluff, only requires a single feat, and a few skill ranks. It looks interesting, I'm hoping to xperiment with it.
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She says she'd like to keep her casting mostly in tact, but wouldn't mind losing a level or twoif the prestige class was cool enough.
I haven't really seen anyone play a Harrower before. How is the class, mechanics wise? I like the flavor, but having never seen it in play, can't help but wonder how it works.
Harrower is an odd class that's primarily a buffer. One class ability that is gained at 2nd level is you "Perform a ceremony" and get a bonus to all die rolls depending on what you rolled. For the most part it's a really cool class that is flexible by its nature, being that it's meant for cards can easily be reflavored as almost anything that has 6 sides to it(Dice, bones, rocks, the color of the first bird seen(wouldn't that be cool?), etc).
In a party they're kinda like Bards where they buff, but at the start of the day instead of only during combat. A level would hurt, because it's light on level 1 of abilities, but 2 or 3 levels into the class is when you start noticing the benefits. Really depends on the party but it might work out well.
My Harrower is in a party with a Rogue, a Barbarian/Oracle, and what may or may not be a Bard. Not too heavy on the combat side, but with my bonuses that they party receive the party has been able to push through. I built mine from Cleric, but I think Oracle would have been just as cool.
the problem I see with the chronicler is that you loose all casting. I would suggest the veiled illusionist. Interesting fluff, only requires a single feat, and a few skill ranks. It looks interesting, I'm hoping to xperiment with it.
Veiled Illusionist looks interesting. It requires being able to cast three illusions, one of which must be 2nd level or higher. Do oracles have access to any illusions?
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Depending on Alignment and Deity, you could always consider something like Mystery Cultist (Chronicles of the Righteous) or Envoy of Balance (Champions of Balance).
Envoy of Balance doesn't lose any spellcasting, and has very mild prerequisites: one of three feats, 5 Ranks of Spellcraft, able to cast 3rd level spells. Oh, and True Neutral alignment.
I'm going Oracle/Wizard Diviner. there's some theme crossover there.
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A Heavens Mystery Oracle into Veiled Illusionist could be fun.
Especially if she can leverage her bonus selection of sorcerer/wizard illusions with
"Awesome Display (Su): Your phantasmagoric displays accurately model the mysteries of the night sky, dumbfounding all who behold them. Each creature affected by your illusion (pattern) spells is treated as if its total number of Hit Dice were equal to its number of Hit Dice minus your Charisma modifier (if positive)."
to get a broader range of effect.
