I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one, UM.
Golarion is a human-centric world; having a Pathfinder Society party consisting of a nymph, a strix, a drow, a catfolk and a goblin would be verging on the ridiculous.
a party of entirely mundane humans with an encouraging and accepting family to return to, friendly associates at their day job, and overall acceptance and comfort in their local shire, would have a lot less reason to adventure than a party of a half-nymph, a strix, a drow, a catfolk and a goblin
the mundane humans can live normal lives and nobody would really bat much of an eye
the half-nymph, strix, drow, catfolk and goblin as a group would have no choice but to adventure, they draw too much attention to fit into the many humanocentric societies, and because of the humanocentric majority, the very far from human minorities would logically seek a means to contribute their ways onto human society.
it sounds more ridiculous that a bunch of humans from the local shire are adventurers when they were already content with their lives, than the societal outcasts that are advententuring as a means to find a niche in life.
adventuring is a minority profession reserved for the mad and the bold. whom better to adventure than a group of outcasts with nowhere to call their home? outcasts whom are challenged in fitting in? outcasts whom are viewed as a freak for not fitting into the local norms?
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boons serve no purpose but to punish the players whom can't attend a Con for a variety of reasons. there are plenty of reasons we can't attend a con, and there are many gamers whom can't afford to devote the massive amount of income to buy race boons.
in fact, the restrictive nature is a Deterrent to new PFS players
Boons are not a deterrent to new players, actually they are an incentive to get more involved in the campaign. A new player who never heard/attended of conventions before may attend when he finds out that he has a chance a getting a boons if he just plays, and that if he GM's he will absolutely receive one. The prospect of getting a boon may be the catalyst that makes him go to the con.
The acquisition of boons does not have to entail traveling anywhere. You can be part of an online convention and receive a boon as I have said before.
The fact that you continue to ignore this avenue amounts to whining.
So stop whining, GM in the next online convention and go get your race boon and if by chance it doesn't have the race you want. Go to the Boon trading thread located on these boards and see if you can trade your race boon for something else.
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Put another way, Todd's suggestion requires GMs to be more proactive in checking things they don't normally check, like the dates on the Chronicle sheets. Are people cool with that?
Given that when I played at Serenity games I only brought Samiel because a) I hadn't prepared to play, so I only had the mini with the hero lab records of my other PCs and b) Samiel was just one sheet of module credit, so he wasn't a hassle. I'm fine with it.
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boons serve no purpose but to punish the players whom can't attend a Con for a variety of reasons. there are plenty of reasons we can't attend a con, and there are many gamers whom can't afford to devote the massive amount of income to buy race boons.
in fact, the restrictive nature is a Deterrent to new PFS players
The second VTT online game day is this coming Saturday. There are somewhere between 35-50 tables scheduled. There are also GM and player boons available to be won. You don't need to attend anywhere but your seat in front of your computer at your house. I'm not sure how much easier it could be.
As for opening the ARG wide open, it is not going to happen. If you think PFS is restrictive, I challenge you to find a home game that offers as many options. We include all but three books out of all the books that have ever been published. I don't know of any home game that offers that many options. Just because you can't play the exact race you want doesn't mean PFS is overly restrictive. It means you don't have 12 options out of more than 4,000 that are available during character creation.
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i think unlocking should be as simple as buying the book.
it works for MMOS and their expansion packs
don't even restrict it to a boon per book. just treat each purchased physical book the player brings as unlimited access to that book. for example, advanced race guide opens up unrestricted access to the races and alternate racials in chapters 1-3 as well as a 12 point custom Race using the ARG.
this encourages revenue by encouraging players to buy the physical books rather than use PRD printouts to achieve their results
it also discourages extreme minmaxing by making players have to feel the extreme burden of their own books
It works for MMOs because the digital expansion is assigned directly to your log in account. That same exact purchased expansion is not available if a different user logs in and hasn't purchased the expansion.
So, just curious how you prove ownership? It doesn't encourage revenue if a group of 6 players passes the same book around and advise they "own" it so all of them can play a menagerie of characters.
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Regarding convention attendance, it has been implied that "being smart about things" enabled people to go to GenCon for $300. A point raised in response is that not everyone is even on the same continent as GenCon, let alone within carpool distance. I'd like to suggest three other points for consideration.
One, not everyone who is within carpool distance has $300 they can spare. In this economy especially. Kids, medical bills, maybe just covering rent: Not everyone is in the middle class.
Two, not everyone can take time off from work, which for GenCon could require missing an entire 40-hour week. Some people don't have vacation time left, because of emergencies or family requirements. Some people don't have vacation time at all, so that's an entire paycheck on top of the $300 mentioned. Some people have bosses who would happily fire them if they took a week off, no matter how far in advance they scheduled it. Some people just straight up can't take a week off because there's no one to cover them. And that's people who only work one job! Some people have these problems times doubled or even tripled.
Three, some people can't just ditch their family for four days plus travel. Single parents, people with disabled spouses, people with kids whose spouses who can't take time off for all the aforementioned reasons, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
There are a lot more barriers to attending a con than being able to spend money. Reducing the cost of GenCon to a "mere" $300 doesn't magically make it universally practical. Real-world conventions are not accessible to everyone.
I'm not saying they have to be. But I'm sick of people saying they are.
Edit: To clarify, I'm talking about IRL conventions. Online conventions are accessible to almost everyone, and I do love that. My point is about the "anyone can get to GenCon if they try hard enough!!1" argument.
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boons serve no purpose but to punish the players whom can't attend a Con ...
Um, ...
1) They serve an an incentive to get people to conventions and gamedays.
2) They serve as an incentive to get your game-day a little larger and attract a couple more people. (I'm offering 12 tables. If I offered 15 ...)
3) They serve as an incentive to get people to GM at conventions.
4) They serve as a means to allow controlled amounts of something into PFS.
5) They allow for people to have a limited-access quirk, around which they can build more character.
That's off the top of my head.
And I'm afraid I don't understand how they punish anybody. If they weren't offered, nobody would have, say, the Tien Weapon Training boon. If Henry goes to a convention and comes back with that boon, I can't figure out how it punishes George, who didn't go, or who went but didn't get a present. George is in exactly the same situation he'd be in, if there were no boons in the first place.
How does Henry getting a gift hurt George at all? (Are you under the belief that PFS is a player-vs-player competition to see who has the weirdest, or quirkiest, character?)
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Can you please keep this particular disagreement confined to the PMs you have already sent me. Thanks. I don't think it serves PFS in any way for you to take angry swipes at me in the open.
There are already races that serve as rare rewards. My question was why it would be a good thing to add exclusivity, especially at the cost of directly taking away character options from the players. Your dislike of people making character choices for mechanical concerns aside I don't see a reason to regress and roll back this particular change.
Saint- There are no angry swipes here. You took what I said out of context and implied that I have feelings and thoughts about things that you really don't know anything about. I kindly explained my point of view to you in private so you had some better insight about my feelings on this. In response you replied in a negative manner and then blocked my ability to respond privately. My point still remains that campaign leadership has done great things to grant the ability to people that cannot afford to travel to con to make boons available to people such as yourself, but you still complain about things that happen at gencon/paizocon. Online conventions require almost nothing to attend and they offer boons and other rewards.
UM- I doubt Mike Brock will ever completely open up the arg to play any race you want. There are just to many problems with doing it. As I stated before you can play in online conventions and earn race boons if you want one that bad.
Edit: E:FB by Mike.
Patrick- I understand that. In fact my wife and I have some of those issues. We have saved for over 2 years to be able to attend this year. I understand that some people have situations that will completely prevent them from attending gencon, like the ones you listed above. It sucks we all know it does, but hey sometimes that is the way the dice fall. The entitlement attitude is where I have a problem. There are things I can't do or afford, but just because someone else can doesn't mean I should as well.
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The second VTT online game day is this coming Saturday. There are somewhere between 35-50 tables scheduled. There are also GM and player boons available to be won. You don't need to attend anywhere but your seat in front of your computer at your house. I'm not sure how much easier it could be.
Just to provide the view of a 'satisfied customer'; this week I received an ifrit race boon for GMing an online game from the computer in my own dining room.
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Just to provide the view of a 'satisfied customer'; this week I received an ifrit race boon for GMing an online game from the computer in my own dining room.And it is one of the few ways you can attend a convention naked! Win!
You could probably get away with it at a regular con if you use enough body paint for your cosplay.
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Saint- There are no angry swipes here. You took what I said out of context and implied that I have feelings and thoughts about things that you really don't know anything about. I kindly explained my point of view to you in private so you had some better insight about my feelings on this. In response you replied in a negative manner and then blocked my ability to respond privately. My point still remains that campaign leadership has done great things to grant the ability to people that cannot afford to travel to con to make boons available to people such as yourself, but you still complain about things that happen at gencon/paizocon. Online conventions require almost nothing to attend and they offer boons and other rewards.
Then I guess the original misunderstanding was the tone of my first comment. I was not complaining about anything, just pointing out that what happens at gencon and paizocon is not really relevant to mine or I suspect many others' experiences of PFS. I will admit that this applies a little more to the grand convocation or the introduction of season meta-plots than to boons.
I agree 100% with you about online conventions now that Mike has opened them up for boon support on par with IRL cons. And I would also agree that any concerns I had in the past about race boons are largely solved at this point between online cons and the boon trading thread and that now the way boons work is in a healthy place thanks to the work of the leadership over the past year.
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I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one, UM.
Golarion is a human-centric world; having a Pathfinder Society party consisting of a nymph, a strix, a drow, a catfolk and a goblin would be verging on the ridiculous.
Makes perfect sense to me.
"Why aren't there any humans on this mission sir?"
"The high casualty rates. Humans are important, you lot... not so much.
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Oh for the sake of science, age is 30.
I can understand why people are wanting these extra races opened up. It's the same reason why my first PFS character was a Gunslinger. For me, it's because my home group doesn't like the idea of a gunslinger in their fantasy campaign. PFS gives me the chance to try out other types of characters that I wouldn't be able to experiment with in a home group situation.
With that being said, I don't really care either way if new races are opened up or not. I'm primarily a core race type of person, but I did roll up an Aasimar Oracle, just because I thought it was a good combination of class and race. If there was options for other races, I'd probably roll up one or two, just to say I did.
I think having boons at cons are a good idea, but I would like to see other distributions of boons as well. The idea that I liked the best is to have the VO's hand them out. Maybe it's due to getting a DM star, contributing to PFS in a significant way, Christmas gifts or whatever they may dream up, but I think this would be a good reward system for the VO's.
I like the idea of keeping some races rare, such as goblins. I would LOVE to play as a goblin, but it would be for flavor, not crunch, but if you let everyone have a goblin, sometimes, I think nothing would get done in a scenario, so best to keep them rare, just like some of the other more exotic races.
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As a personal anecdote if conventions did not offer exclusive boons, I would not attend them.
Interesting. From my personal PoV I did Origins not for booms, but to see if I could. If I can make it to Gen con next year* it will be for the same.
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boons serve no purpose but to punish the players whom can't attend a Con for a variety of reasons. there are plenty of reasons we can't attend a con, and there are many gamers whom can't afford to devote the massive amount of income to buy race boons.
in fact, the restrictive nature is a Deterrent to new PFS players
The second VTT online game day is this coming Saturday. There are somewhere between 35-50 tables scheduled. There are also GM and player boons available to be won. You don't need to attend anywhere but your seat in front of your computer at your house. I'm not sure how much easier it could be.
I like it! <3
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boons serve no purpose but to punish the players whom can't attend a Con ...Um, ...
1) They serve an an incentive to get people to conventions and gamedays.
2) They serve as an incentive to get your game-day a little larger and attract a couple more people. (I'm offering 12 tables. If I offered 15 ...)
3) They serve as an incentive to get people to GM at conventions.
4) They serve as a means to allow controlled amounts of something into PFS.
5) They allow for people to have a limited-access quirk, around which they can build more character.
That's off the top of my head.
And I'm afraid I don't understand how they punish anybody. If they weren't offered, nobody would have, say, the Tien Weapon Training boon. If Henry goes to a convention and comes back with that boon, I can't figure out how it punishes George, who didn't go, or who went but didn't get a present. George is in exactly the same situation he'd be in, if there were no boons in the first place.
How does Henry getting a gift hurt George at all? (Are you under the belief that PFS is a player-vs-player competition to see who has the weirdest, or quirkiest, character?)
It's human nature. Both punishment and reward are relative to the beholder, and sometimes, the denial of reward is identical to punishment. Take, for example, a small child whose father says he will take the child out for ice cream if the child behaves. The child really wants the ice cream and looks forward to it and tries very hard to behave but just can't control himself enough. When the father tells him they are not going out for ice cream because he did not behave, the child is very much going to view this as a punishment even though the child, in fact, lost nothing.
Now does this mean PFS should give everyone (or no one) the same race boons? Well, only if the number of people that are lost due to being de-incentivized to play by having exclusive race boon rewards exceeds the number of people that are gained due to being incentivized by this. My experience with this sort of thing, especially having seen the effect of making campaign rewards non-exclusive in another campaign, and considering the fact that while exclusive rewards tend to only de-incentivizes individual players while they tend to incentivizes organizers (who usually account for multiple players), tells me that the answer to this is that the benefits of exclusive rewards outweighs the deficits.
i think unlocking should be as simple as buying the book.
it works for MMOS and their expansion packs
don't even restrict it to a boon per book. just treat each purchased physical book the player brings as unlimited access to that book. for example, advanced race guide opens up unrestricted access to the races and alternate racials in chapters 1-3 as well as a 12 point custom Race using the ARG.
this encourages revenue by encouraging players to buy the physical books rather than use PRD printouts to achieve their results
it also discourages extreme minmaxing by making players have to feel the extreme burden of their own books
It works for MMOs because the digital expansion is assigned directly to your log in account. That same exact purchased expansion is not available if a different user logs in and hasn't purchased the expansion.
So, just curious how you prove ownership? It doesn't encourage revenue if a group of 6 players passes the same book around and advise they "own" it so all of them can play a menagerie of characters.
if the group is caught passing around the same book to claim ownership, it would be quite suspicious
an online registration of what hardbacks a player owns would be suited for that purpose
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The second VTT online game day is this coming Saturday. There are somewhere between 35-50 tables scheduled. There are also GM and player boons available to be won. You don't need to attend anywhere but your seat in front of your computer at your house. I'm not sure how much easier it could be.boons serve no purpose but to punish the players whom can't attend a Con for a variety of reasons. there are plenty of reasons we can't attend a con, and there are many gamers whom can't afford to devote the massive amount of income to buy race boons.
in fact, the restrictive nature is a Deterrent to new PFS players
Darn, if only I wasn't working non-stop until Tuesday next week.
boons serve no purpose but to punish the players whom can't attend a Con ...Um, ...
1) They serve an an incentive to get people to conventions and gamedays.
2) They serve as an incentive to get your game-day a little larger and attract a couple more people. (I'm offering 12 tables. If I offered 15 ...)
3) They serve as an incentive to get people to GM at conventions.
4) They serve as a means to allow controlled amounts of something into PFS.
5) They allow for people to have a limited-access quirk, around which they can build more character.
That's off the top of my head.
And I'm afraid I don't understand how they punish anybody. If they weren't offered, nobody would have, say, the Tien Weapon Training boon. If Henry goes to a convention and comes back with that boon, I can't figure out how it punishes George, who didn't go, or who went but didn't get a present. George is in exactly the same situation he'd be in, if there were no boons in the first place.
How does Henry getting a gift hurt George at all? (Are you under the belief that PFS is a player-vs-player competition to see who has the weirdest, or quirkiest, character?)
the problem with this is
i would never be able to get a boon for that following reasons that apply similarly to some others
1. i would have to abandon one of my multiple home games i like so much better, despite being quite adversarial groups
2. i would have to get transportation to a completely different area, the issue with that is i don't own a car, and there are no cons in my area
3. if i did try to play an online Convention, the following things prevent me from doing so. my IRL groups, my volunteer work at the local food locker, or leave the state for the weekend to visit my brother
4. even if i did play in a convention to earn a boon, my beyond horrid luck at these things, would deny me the boon i sought. so all this work to get a highly specific boon, and i end up with either the wrong boon or no boon at all. all because of the rolling of the dice, the fact i drove an extremely long distance from home to get it, and back home, we don't have a PFS center. the closest one is an hour across the freeway away.
5. even if my desired boon was up for auction, i don't have the money to blow on a boon that is good for only a single character. a boon i will likely not get to use, and a boon that people would literally mug me over because of how much they sell for on Ebay. so even if i did get that race boon i wanted to allow a custom half-nymph or whatever, people back home seeing me riding in mom's car for a pathfinder society game would try to damage my mother's vehicle just because they want to sell the boon for profit. i don't live in a safe neighborhood, or even a safe city, and we have lots of people who mug PFS Con-Participants for boons so they can sell them on Ebay for lotsa profit.
so please, drop the boon system and at least create a system where the players can show the DM their bags of books and have permission to access them. such as open Access to the Advanced Race Guide.
the boon system creates even more reason for unsavory people to mug con-goers
i remember Going to Snafu in Nevada 3 years ago and getting a Sylph Boon, when i came home with a smile in my face, i was in the hospital a week later and my boon strongarmed out of my possession after being brutally beaten by 12 thugs. they couldn't recover the boon because they said "Tracing a Piece of Paper" "isn't worth their time."
by opening up the boon races to everyone whom has the book, you can help save lots of people like myself from those whom mug others for race boons. because they know it's an item the cops won't bother tracking down.
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So how would you suggest this is accomplished? Printing a unique code in each and every book that can be registered on the site? This has a number of problems. People scratching or getting to the code without actually purchasing the book. What happens if I give my book away or sell it to someone else? If paizo only allows 1 register of the code what happens when someone tries to register the code again? Are they out of luck, or if they can it causes abuse as one group could pass the code from one person to another? I would love to hear your suggestions because frankly this horse has been debated to the point of death, beaten it into oblivion, cast true resurrection on it and done it again.
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1. Why do you have to abondon a home game for PFS? Why not both. Lots of people do both.
2. Traveling with people in your area to a con is certainly an option, lots of people do it.
3. So you mean to tell me that the almost 24/7 games that run online there isn't a 4 hr period that you can play? I find that incredibly hard to believe.
4. There is a boon trading thread for that.
5. I am not trying to be insensitive on this, but seriously? AFAIK the Slyph boon was not even available 3 years ago. I believe they were released at Gencon 2012. Saying you were beaten up and mugged for a pfs boon seems extremely unlikely.
I realize that no matter what we say you will never be appeased, but c'mon don't outright lie about things to get your way.
Edit Edit: for someone who doesn't play PFS you sure seem invested in something that doesn't apply to you. Also a quick ebay search reveals no such PFS boons there, if there was such a blackmarket for them I think there would be more up.
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I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one, UM.
Golarion is a human-centric world; having a Pathfinder Society party consisting of a nymph, a strix, a drow, a catfolk and a goblin would be verging on the ridiculous.
Well.- Human-centirc Golarion is a thing to discuss, but somewhere else.
I´m pretty curious how the design team will handle some things in the future. Right now i´m pretty sceptic about some things and decisions.Not sure if there are nymph player characters, but all the other races are evil as written, besides catfolk. Why do have people always get back to that? There are so many other nice races which are playable and don´t have that feakshow effect.
5. I am not trying to be insensitive on this, but seriously? AFAIK the Sylph boon was not even available 3 years ago. I believe they were released at Gencon 2012. Saying you were beaten up and mugged for a pfs boon seems extremely unlikely.
i might be mixing up boons, but i remember getting a bestiary 2 related boon in Nevada during mid to late October of 2010 and getting mugged when i returned home, beaten up, spent a week in the hospital, i think it was one of the elemental races or a pick a race from bestiary 2 using an approved list kinda thing. just sylph was the first to come to memory.
it's probably one of those retired boons
but i was honestly beaten up and mugged for a PFS boon because some brutes wanted some spare spending money. they know how much those things sell for on Ebay.
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the boon system creates even more reason for unsavory people to mug con-goers
i remember Going to Snafu in Nevada 3 years ago and getting a Sylph Boon, when i came home with a smile in my face, i was in the hospital a week later and my boon strongarmed out of my possession after being brutally beaten by 12 thugs. they couldn't recover the boon because they said "Tracing a Piece of Paper" "isn't worth their time."
I am going to approach this with an open mind and assume it is truthful and accurate.
I am sorry you were mugged, I too have been mugged on several occasions. It is never a pleasant experience and it sounds as if you got it pretty bad. I doubt you were mugged solely for your Sylph boon though, it seems a very unlikely thing that a group of 12 individuals would hospitalize anyone for a slip of paper that goes for maybe fifty dollars on eBay(I don't know how much they go for and I play PFS), and which is fairly easily traced. You were likely just an available target of some thoroughly unsavory people. The current Boon system is not to blame for that situation.
I really hope you never have to go through something like that again.
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i think unlocking should be as simple as buying the book.
it works for MMOS and their expansion packs
don't even restrict it to a boon per book. just treat each purchased physical book the player brings as unlimited access to that book. for example, advanced race guide opens up unrestricted access to the races and alternate racials in chapters 1-3 as well as a 12 point custom Race using the ARG.
this encourages revenue by encouraging players to buy the physical books rather than use PRD printouts to achieve their results
it also discourages extreme minmaxing by making players have to feel the extreme burden of their own books
It works for MMOs because the digital expansion is assigned directly to your log in account. That same exact purchased expansion is not available if a different user logs in and hasn't purchased the expansion.
So, just curious how you prove ownership? It doesn't encourage revenue if a group of 6 players passes the same book around and advise they "own" it so all of them can play a menagerie of characters.
if the group is caught passing around the same book to claim ownership, it would be quite suspicious
an online registration of what hardbacks a player owns would be suited for that purpose
If there are no names or other identifying info inside of a book, how do you know it is being passed around or not?
Who is going to code that online registration system since it is something we don't currently have, for a system to receive a free boon?
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i remember Going to Snafu in Nevada 3 years ago and getting a Sylph Boon, when i came home with a smile in my face, i was in the hospital a week later and my boon strongarmed out of my possession after being brutally beaten by 12 thugs. they couldn't recover the boon because they said "Tracing a Piece of Paper" "isn't worth their time."
If you have a case number from the local PD, I will do some investigating. If the story does pan out, I will certainly send you another Sylph boon. Feel free to email me that case number.
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Umbriere Moonwhisper I am sorry about that horrible incident.
Although you have to realize this game is a shared fantasy with many people. You have a very polarized view on what should be legal. You should realize many people have a very polarized view in the opposite direction of how you feel. So changing the rules to what you want would upset a great deal of people as well.
Now Mr. Brock has done a great deal in opening up boons for people. With online play allowing them and such. If you want to you can think of any excuse as to why you can not get one.
Now excuses are easy. I like the idea that boons are people that are dedicated to the game and make an effort to play and attend these events. Now there are countless ways to get boons. You can open your own con. You can find people goiong to cons in your own area and car pool with them. I know the VC in my area has given someone an extra race boon they earned when theirs was destroyed. The VCs are people and understand horrible things happen. Alert one you were beaten for that boon. I am sure they would find a way to help you. *edit Mr. Brock proves my point while i was typing this.*
If you want to use your home game as a reason that you do not have time for a con. Well everyone has time for everything important to them, if you do not have time for it. Then it is not important to you. If you prefer your home game play the restricted items there.
Ultimately I feel the rules of society make it society. If it was community pathfidner games where the rules were not enforced many people including myself would not play. Having a standard set of rules that everyone plays from is what makes it a society. Allowing exceptions through boons allows the PFS staff to give a taste of the banned items and make it a treat that is rewarding and keep people coming back.
If it was not used as a treat you would not want it so bad.
If you have a case number from the local PD, I will do some investigating. If the story does pan out, I will certainly send you another Sylph boon. Feel free to email me that case number.
i remember Going to Snafu in Nevada 3 years ago and getting a Sylph Boon, when i came home with a smile in my face, i was in the hospital a week later and my boon strongarmed out of my possession after being brutally beaten by 12 thugs. they couldn't recover the boon because they said "Tracing a Piece of Paper" "isn't worth their time."
Rancho Cordova Police Department didn't even give me a case number, all they did was provide the ambulance and tell me to forget about it, but that was on my old PFS profile that played maybe for like a month. the PFS profile was also under an Alias so they couldn't equate it to a real name. mostly for protection against identity theft, another common issue back home. since then, i have Avoided PFS and Cons alike as if they were the plague out of fear.
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Rancho Cordova Police Department didn't even give me a case number, all they did was provide the ambulance and tell me to forget about it, but that was on my old PFS profile that played maybe for like a month. the PFS profile was also under an Alias so they couldn't equate it to a real name. mostly for protection against identity theft, another common issue back home. since then, i have Avoided PFS and Cons alike as if they were the plague out of fear.If you have a case number from the local PD, I will do some investigating. If the story does pan out, I will certainly send you another Sylph boon. Feel free to email me that case number.
i remember Going to Snafu in Nevada 3 years ago and getting a Sylph Boon, when i came home with a smile in my face, i was in the hospital a week later and my boon strongarmed out of my possession after being brutally beaten by 12 thugs. they couldn't recover the boon because they said "Tracing a Piece of Paper" "isn't worth their time."
That is unfortunate. When I was a police detective, we were required to write a report for every call we went out to, especially when it was a case where the abuse led to someone waking up in a hospital a week later. If you have the location and date the battery occurred, an intersection or such, I can track down that info utilizing the dispatcher logs that are open records.
What was your alias so I can check to ensure you attended that event and we will go from there?
Also, if you are avoiding PFS and cons, why are you now championing the issue of free and open access to everything? If you no longer play PFS, I don't understand why it is affecting you. I am trying to understand.
essentially, the PD in my own area didn't seem to care and never set up a case file because they had "more important things to worry about" than a stolen piece of paper.
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essentially, the PD in my own area didn't seem to care and never set up a case file because they had "more important things to worry about" than a stolen piece of paper.
If you have the location and date the battery occurred, an intersection or such, I can track down that info utilizing the dispatcher logs that are open records.
Anytime an officer is dispatched to a location, it is logged, regardless of whether a report was filed.
Rancho Cordova Police Department didn't even give me a case number, all they did was provide the ambulance and tell me to forget about it, but that was on my old PFS profile that played maybe for like a month. the PFS profile was also under an Alias so they couldn't equate it to a real name. mostly for protection against identity theft, another common issue back home. since then, i have Avoided PFS and Cons alike as if they were the plague out of fear.If you have a case number from the local PD, I will do some investigating. If the story does pan out, I will certainly send you another Sylph boon. Feel free to email me that case number.
i remember Going to Snafu in Nevada 3 years ago and getting a Sylph Boon, when i came home with a smile in my face, i was in the hospital a week later and my boon strongarmed out of my possession after being brutally beaten by 12 thugs. they couldn't recover the boon because they said "Tracing a Piece of Paper" "isn't worth their time."That is unfortunate. When I was a police detective, we were required to write a report for every call we went out to, especially when it was a case where the abuse led to someone waking up in a hospital a week later. If you have the location and date the battery occurred, an intersection or such, I can track down that info utilizing the dispatcher logs that are open records.
What was your alias so I can check to ensure you attended that event and we will go from there?
Also, if you are avoiding PFS and cons, why are you now championing the issue of free and open access to everything? I am trying to understand.
i can't remember the Alias, i had like a dozen, and i really don't care anymore. why i am championing free and open access for something i intentionally avoid? so that people don't suffer the same issues i did over a piece of paper.
i'll just stick with my home games.
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Rancho Cordova Police Department didn't even give me a case number, all they did was provide the ambulance and tell me to forget about it, but that was on my old PFS profile that played maybe for like a month. the PFS profile was also under an Alias so they couldn't equate it to a real name. mostly for protection against identity theft, another common issue back home. since then, i have Avoided PFS and Cons alike as if they were the plague out of fear.If you have a case number from the local PD, I will do some investigating. If the story does pan out, I will certainly send you another Sylph boon. Feel free to email me that case number.
i remember Going to Snafu in Nevada 3 years ago and getting a Sylph Boon, when i came home with a smile in my face, i was in the hospital a week later and my boon strongarmed out of my possession after being brutally beaten by 12 thugs. they couldn't recover the boon because they said "Tracing a Piece of Paper" "isn't worth their time."That is unfortunate. When I was a police detective, we were required to write a report for every call we went out to, especially when it was a case where the abuse led to someone waking up in a hospital a week later. If you have the location and date the battery occurred, an intersection or such, I can track down that info utilizing the dispatcher logs that are open records.
What was your alias so I can check to ensure you attended that event and we will go from there?
Also, if you are avoiding PFS and cons, why are you now championing the issue of free and open access to everything? I am trying to understand.
i can't remember the Alias, i had like a dozen, and i really don't care anymore. why i am championing free and open access for something i intentionally avoid? so that people don't suffer the same issues i did over a piece of paper.
i'll just stick with my home games.
Well luckily, no other people are suffering the same issues you faced due to a piece of paper. In the 3 years since your incident, there have been no other reports made regarding assault on a person to steal their PFS boons. I attribute this to the fact that they are given out in such great numbers (more than 10,000 last year), that none have been put up for sale on eBay or any other website for more than 2 years. So, no need to fret any longer about people possibly facing a similar issue.
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Might not be a bad idea to tie boons to PFS numbers on paizo.com, with an option for them to be transferrable to another PFS number.
Paizo co-ords could distribute them to VO's in regions however they see fit, VO's could re-distribute them out. Add an option for a downloadable printable chronicle for it and a way to check for custom race attached to the PFS number.
It's a wild idea, but probably somewhat feasable, especially if it's going to help someone be less likely to get mugged (but also because distribution could be more easily handled/appropriately restricted).
how about we forget that i was mugged over a piece of paper in the first place and i cut back my championing for PFS because i don't intend to return anytime soon?
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how about we forget that i was mugged over a piece of paper in the first place and i cut back my championing for PFS because i don't intend to return anytime soon?
Solely up to you. I was just trying to respond to your concerns and assist if I am able. If you feel those concerns have been met, we can move on to other topics.
Due to the instability and frustration it would cause to the player base at large, the ARG will not be open for free and complete access anytime in the foreseeable future. If we decide to go that direction, we will do a blog post or set up a poll to see if the majority of the player base is ready to shift the campaign in that way.
Well luckily, no other people are suffering the same issues you faced due to a piece of paper. In the 3 years since your incident, there have been no other reports made regarding assault on a person to steal their PFS boons. I attribute this to the fact that they are given out in such great numbers (more than 10,000 last year), that none have been put up for sale on eBay or any other website for more than 2 years. So, no need to fret any longer about people possibly facing a similar issue.i can't remember the Alias, i had like a dozen, and i really don't care anymore. why i am championing free and open access for something i intentionally avoid? so that people don't suffer the same issues i did over a piece of paper.Rancho Cordova Police Department didn't even give me a case number, all they did was provide the ambulance and tell me to forget about it, but that was on my old PFS profile that played maybe for like a month. the PFS profile was also under an Alias so they couldn't equate it to a real name. mostly for protection against identity theft, another common issue back home. since then, i have Avoided PFS and Cons alike as if they were the plague out of fear.If you have a case number from the local PD, I will do some investigating. If the story does pan out, I will certainly send you another Sylph boon. Feel free to email me that case number.
i remember Going to Snafu in Nevada 3 years ago and getting a Sylph Boon, when i came home with a smile in my face, i was in the hospital a week later and my boon strongarmed out of my possession after being brutally beaten by 12 thugs. they couldn't recover the boon because they said "Tracing a Piece of Paper" "isn't worth their time."That is unfortunate. When I was a police detective, we were required to write a report for every call we went out to, especially when it was a case where the abuse led to someone waking up in a hospital a week later. If you have the location and date the battery occurred, an intersection or such, I can track down that info utilizing the dispatcher logs that are open records.
What was your alias so I can check to ensure you attended that event and we will go from there?
Also, if you are avoiding PFS and cons, why are you now championing the issue of free and open access to everything? I am trying to understand.
that is good news, i guess i can cut back my championing and resume staying out of PFS
how about we forget that i was mugged over a piece of paper in the first place and i cut back my championing for PFS because i don't intend to return anytime soon?Are you going to come back and play? If not, please move on.
how about we move on?
it would be easier, and we can make it less focused on an accident that forced me to avoid PFS
i unintentionally derailed this thread enough.
that is good news, i guess i can cut back my championing and resume staying out of PFSVery well. Stay safe and have a happy holidays. Good gaming and good luck!
thank you, same to you as well.
