If he plugs his ears and goes LALALALA then you can never change his mind.
No, they didn't. Constitutional checks and balances makes approval of a bill and funding of it two distinct things and the Democrats only had one of those.
The Democrats already had what they want.
The Republican party wasn't holding ACA funding hostage. They were holding all non-essential federal operations funding hostage. The ACA isn't even included in that!
The things you are saying are actually crazy. They are not a reflection of reality. Full stop.
Facts can be supported with evidence. You have no evidence.
A bunch of Republicans saying, "Yeah, we'd vote for that," is pretty solid evidence that they'd vote for it. There couldn't be any better evidence. That's as good as it can possibly get.
You really don't want this to be true, huh?
Are you just going to keep coming up with increasingly deluded ways to justify what you want so badly to believe is true?
Do you have some reason to suspect he would do otherwise?
Are you just going to keep coming up with increasingly deluded ways to justify what you want so badly to believe is true?Do you have some reason to suspect he would do otherwise?
Nope. I just want to keep reminding him of it. People are not brick walls. Something eventually gets through.
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Nope. I just want to keep reminding him of it. People are not brick walls. Something eventually gets through.
Maybe someone should tell Ted Cruz. ;)
I maintain that Ted Cruz is a clever puppet controlled by aa talking cockroach from outer space.Nope. I just want to keep reminding him of it. People are not brick walls. Something eventually gets through.Maybe someone should tell Ted Cruz. ;)
I think the talking cockroaches would object to that assessment.
I think the talking cockroaches would object to that assessment.
Agreed. But at least a talking cockroach would be interesting.
The number of ad hominems directed at me in this thread is increasing. So, I'm dropping out of it.
Yep. Hum louder.
The number of ad hominems directed at me in this thread is increasing. So, I'm dropping out of it.
Run away!
But you forgot the bit about Paizo being a hotbed of liberalism. :(
A bunch of Republicans saying, "Yeah, we'd vote for that,"the link provided had ONE Republican saying that.
"One" =/= "A bunch"
From that link:
"The clip featured Republicans Raul Labrador of Iowa and Tom Cole of Oklahoma admitting that their are enough Republican votes in the House to pass the Senate’s version of the CR."
But, hey, it's no big deal if you didn't read the article. I mean, seriously, we didn't expect any better.
The number of ad hominems directed at me in this thread is increasing. So, I'm dropping out of it.
Oh. yeah. That's why.
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Welp, looks like the party's over. And how about that! The Tea Party got nothing. Kinda like what was obviously going to happen from the very beginning. Less than nothing, actually, because if it hadn't happened, Obamacare's popularity would be lower than it is.
What a colossal waste of time and money.
EDIT: As Ross Douthat, the conservative commentator at the New York Times wrote yesterday:
This means that the still-ongoing intra-conservative debate over the shutdown’s wisdom is not, I’m sorry, the kind of case where reasonable people can differ on the merits and have good-faith arguments and ultimately agree to disagree. There was no argument for the shutdown itself that a person unblindered by political fantasies should be obliged to respect, no plausible alternative world in which it could have led to any outcome besides self-inflicted political damage followed by legislative defeat, and no epitaph that should be written for its instigators’ planning and execution except: “These guys deserved to lose.”
Well said. Let's fire this "conservative" party and get a new one.
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Sorry for a double post, but I just found a good article that presents a big way that the American system of congressional representation has gotten completely messed up compared to how it was originally designed:
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/representation/
In a nutshell, when the Constitution was being devised, there were two competing ideas of what representation was supposed to accomplish, and what particular form we should use in our Congress. We've brilliantly managed to combine the worst qualities of both and get the benefits of neither.
(Note: The site this comes from, The American Conservative, is "conservative" in the classical sense, not in the modern Tea Party/Imperial sense.)
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I'm not a Paizo fan. I just buy their products, and play their game, and read their message boards, and go to their conventions, and tell my friends how much I like their products. I'm actually entirely indifferent between Paizo's products and WotC's products, even though many people say that WotC's products are written on the skins of babies and cause cancer when you read them.
I'd think that those would be selling points for you. In fact I'd wager the only way to get you to buy faster would be to include hookers, blow, or