If nobody can tell me whether or not I should be able to play my nunchaku-wielding green-haired human barbarian with seahorse tattoos all over his body and a pink hippopotamus mount, then this thread has officially lost all purpose.
^ did I mention the above character is also an exiled prince of a long dead ancient civilization.
All good, except for the human part!
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All good, except for the human part!If nobody can tell me whether or not I should be able to play my nunchaku-wielding green-haired human barbarian with seahorse tattoos all over his body and a pink hippopotamus mount, then this thread has officially lost all purpose.
^ did I mention the above character is also an exiled prince of a long dead ancient civilization.
Darn. I was really hoping to be the only human in the party.
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If nobody can tell me whether or not I should be able to play my nunchaku-wielding green-haired human barbarian with seahorse tattoos all over his body and a pink hippopotamus mount, then this thread has officially lost all purpose.
^ did I mention the above character is also an exiled prince of a long dead ancient civilization.
Maybe.
Depends on the setting.
Also clicking on the previous page is kind of cool.
In my opinion a drider is a non-level appropriate character.For any level? Interesting.
Since the response was deleted.
It's not so much a level thing as it is a drider thing. A drider as a PC in general seems silly in concept and execution. In the books I've read driders are more or less mindless brutes that can follow simple orders. So for me a Drizzt style drider just doesn't work for me, similar to a tarrasque PC, a silly idea.
The only time I think I'd allow a drider PC would be in a game where that made sense, such as the drow invasion of mitral hall. In that instance I'd gleeful work with my player to develop a self aware drider.
If I'm running Rise of the Runelords, just won't happen. The town of Sandpoint would have a terrible day killing a drider then being attacked by goblins.
But if the player really wanted a drider I'd help out in hunting down a dm that welcomed a drider player.
It's not so much a level thing as it is a drider thing. A drider as a PC in general seems silly in concept and execution. In the books I've read driders are more or less mindless brutes that can follow simple orders. So for me a Drizzt style drider just doesn't work for me, similar to a tarrasque PC, a silly idea.
I think part of why you see it as silly is because you have to treat driders like they are in most settings(the legacy cursed/bless drow) rather than as a spider person. If you had a setting where they are just people and you scaled them back to a medium sized creature they'd probably be a lot easier to incorporate than in say... Faerun trying to fight on the surface in the Dales. I think it'd be pretty cool, might be easier on another setting and maybe even system though.
I tend to create my own settings in the group if possible that way I'm not adhering to already existent materials and there's more room for change and less "this is how it is". Plus I like have the feeling like I made and control it with my friends rather than using someone else's materials. Feels too much like plagiarism on a personal level.
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It's not so much a level thing as it is a drider thing. A drider as a PC in general seems silly in concept and execution. In the books I've read driders are more or less mindless brutes that can follow simple orders. So for me a Drizzt style drider just doesn't work for me, similar to a tarrasque PC, a silly idea.I think part of why you see it as silly is because you have to treat driders like they are in most settings.
Evil half spiders that try to kill the PC's?
Evil half spiders that try to kill the PC's?It's not so much a level thing as it is a drider thing. A drider as a PC in general seems silly in concept and execution. In the books I've read driders are more or less mindless brutes that can follow simple orders. So for me a Drizzt style drider just doesn't work for me, similar to a tarrasque PC, a silly idea.I think part of why you see it as silly is because you have to treat driders like they are in most settings.
I dunno, driders can work with people in some settings. If I remember correctly they've been both a blessing that works with their people and an outcast insane cursed race of mutants in others. Sometimes flip flopping. Obviously the one where they're animal intelligence and eat people is not the one you want to pick... I'm not an expert on driders, so I don't know what they are in every setting atm.
But yes, that's why I said it might work in other settings later in my post.
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Evil half spiders that try to kill the PC's?It's not so much a level thing as it is a drider thing. A drider as a PC in general seems silly in concept and execution. In the books I've read driders are more or less mindless brutes that can follow simple orders. So for me a Drizzt style drider just doesn't work for me, similar to a tarrasque PC, a silly idea.I think part of why you see it as silly is because you have to treat driders like they are in most settings.I dunno, driders can work with people in some settings. If I remember correctly they've been both a blessing that works with their people and an outcast insane cursed race of mutants in others. Sometimes flip flopping. Obviously the one where they're animal intelligence and eat people is not the one you want to pick... I'm not an expert on driders, so I don't know what they are in every setting atm.
But yes, that's why I said it might work in other settings later in my post.
And the entire point of the thread is some ideas don't fit in some settings.
So we agree.
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For me, even in home brews there are somethings I like to stay true on. It is usually a list of monsters that, again for me, should stay monsters. Also, I don't really like spiders, so keeping driders as a "cursed race" feels good.
For me, even in home brews there are somethings I like to stay true on. It is usually a list of monsters that, again for me, should stay monsters. Also, I don't really like spiders, so keeping driders as a "cursed race" feels good.
Whatever works for you, we all have preferences. Personally I like doing new things, and like I said it rubs me wrong using someone else's work. Plus I'm okay with spiders, except maybe the few that've poisoned me... Those spiders were jerks.