For a quest out reward will be a potion each of up to spell lv 3.
So what are the best potions?
I'm a 3rd level wizard.
I suspect that potions off of other spell lists might be better for me.
Greater Invisibility off of the Summoner list. For when you must sneak AND fight.
I think stone skin off that same list might be better. Longer duration and does not care if they can see though invisibility.
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Glibness is a good one. Only bards can normally cast it so it's far rarer than most potions. The time it takes to drink it does not matter because it is for very specific purposes. We all know the power of the spell, as a potion for when you absolutely, definitely have to BS the King that you never robbed his treasury.
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Heroism is absolutely amazing for anyone and with its long duration can potentially help out for multiple encounters. A great reward no matter who gets it.
Summoner seems ba with 4th level spells @ 3rd level slot. I'd look at that list to see what is best for your style of combat/ gist of trouble. That actually seems a little broken, as my alchemist has alchemal allocation and would definately use a high castor level stoneskin or even by potions of greater invisibility. Sorry to thread tangent, but that seems too good.
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Glibness as a potion is illegal. It's a Personal spell.
From the cleric list, Remove Blindness might be useful. (For those situations where you have a scroll of Remove Blindness but can't read it because you're blind...)
Potions of Inflict XXX Wounds ;)
Then again, I can be a real jerk sometimes :D
Your GM wouldn't let a Summoner make potions? Seems kinda jerky...
Anyway with Alchemist (particularly Vivisectionist) Greater Invisibility potion + Alchemical Allocation + Eternal Potion is pretty much your sport drink of choice.
Also don't forget that Amplify Elixir and Extend Potion stack (and should stack with a potion of an Extended Spell)... good stuff!
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Vodka.
Good Hope: +2 morale bonus to attacks, saves, skill rolls, and damage. Though the caster level is 7 (it's a bard spell).
Vodka.
I wouldn't thought coffee, but to each their own.
Personally I second Fly.
I believe potions are always priced as if they came off the primary caster lists, are they not? Just like every other spell effect in a magic item.
==Aelryinth
Vodka.I wouldn't thought coffee, but to each their own.
Personally I second Fly.
It can be two things.
The one you need when the wizard is mind controlled and the cleric is bleeding out on the ground, but then realize you forgot and/or neglected to buy.
I believe potions are always priced as if they came off the primary caster lists, are they not? Just like every other spell effect in a magic item.
Nope! 9 prepared, 9 spontaneous, 6, and 4 all have different prices. Though in society play there are special rules.
Personally, I like invisibility as an oil or potion.
As a GM there are no summoners taking craft potion or wands or scrolls in my world.
As they are spont casters and such feats would be unwise.
Market prices are all the same, yes, but crafting costs can be different.
Market prices are all the same, yes, but crafting costs can be different.
Somewhere out there, there has to be some sort of wizard cartel controlling the prices and size of all the potions...
That said, does anyone know if any Pathfinder prestige classes have their own spell lists? The five minutes I spent looking revealed nothing.
To my knowledge none get spells per day like some 3.5 did. In fact they actually removed spells from the assassin in its transition. Pathfinder has a hate-on for PrC's dontcha' know.
Market prices are all the same, yes, but crafting costs can be different.Somewhere out there, there has to be some sort of wizard cartel controlling the prices and size of all the potions...
I blame the churches, they keep those cheap paladin made lesser restoration potions of the market and sell the much more expensive cleric versions. Perhaps its Abadar that is doing it? Abadar's old paladin's home is full of retired paladin brewing potions in sweat shop conditions for that extra chunk of markup that the church then pockets (can't sell for less, it would destabilize the markets!).
For a quest out reward will be a potion each of up to spell lv 3.
So what are the best potions?
I'm a 3rd level wizard.
I suspect that potions off of other spell lists might be better for me.
the best potion is one you drink:)
the best potion is one you drink:)
I'm afraid to ask what the other kind is...
Enlarge Person is great for martials. Biggest problem with the spell is its 1 round casting time.
the best potion is one you drink:)I'm afraid to ask what the other kind is...
Poison? or a suppository:)
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What is the best potion?
The one that you need.
Fly, or, as I like to call it, Protection From Melee. Stoneskin if you can get it. Beast Shape 1 can solve an amazing number of situations.
My PFS alchemist gargles Heroism and MCaE at every dungeon entrance, but those are more like solid buffs.
My personal favorite is the Potion of Magic Missiles.
I Agree!
Can you disguse your potions? so that people think it's something it's not? trink people into drinking things, etc?
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Vodka laced ice coffee for the win...
My personal favorite is the Potion of Magic Missiles.I Agree!
Can you disguse your potions? so that people think it's something it's not? trink people into drinking things, etc?
Label your vanishing cream 'invisibility' that works just fine. Who needs magic?
Market prices are all the same, yes, but crafting costs can be different.
market Price determines the crafting cost, not vice versa.
So even if you've a level 1 version of a level 3 spell, it still costs as much to make as the level 3 spell.
Components cost must be figured on the higher level spell, not the lower level one, no?
==Aelryinth
So even if you've a level 1 version of a level 3 spell, it still costs as much to make as the level 3 spell.
This is not true.
Note that some spells appear at different levels for different casters. The level of such spells depends on the caster brewing the potion.
http://paizo.com/prd/magicItems/potions.html
If you've got a version of a spell that's only level 1, even though other classes cast it as a 3rd level spell, you can brew it at the cost of a 1st level spell.
Market prices are all the same, yes, but crafting costs can be different.market Price determines the crafting cost, not vice versa.
So even if you've a level 1 version of a level 3 spell, it still costs as much to make as the level 3 spell.
Components cost must be figured on the higher level spell, not the lower level one, no?
==Aelryinth
That simply isn't true. The caster level and spell level put into the potion (that is, the mathematical formula) is what determines the crafting cost.
It costs more for a paladin to make cure potions than it does for a cleric, but if they both tried to sell it on the market, they would both earn the same amount.
Ignore the man with the blindfold and cleft chin! he is only trying to derail the thread:)
What? A level 7 Paladin with Brew Potion can make 1st level spells, at caster level 1, for the exact same costs that a cleric can: 25 gold.
1 x 1 x 50 = 50 gold.
You craft at half the price of the finished item.
It's more an allusion to spell level abuse then anything. It's always been a trick of optimizers who could to grab spells that are lower level on other spell lists for usage - Heal on the adept list is a 5, I believe, and the summoner has a bunch of buffs and stuff that are lower level.
So, in essence, the summoner making the potion of speed spends less money to make it then other classes, so he has greater profit selling it. This is what I'm talking about, leveraging spell differences for profit.
Meh. I know it's not big, but it's still annoying.
==Aelryinth
What? A level 7 Paladin with Brew Potion can make 1st level spells, at caster level 1, for the exact same costs that a cleric can: 25 gold.
1 x 1 x 50 = 50 gold.
You craft at half the price of the finished item.
Perhaps I presented a bad example. I was thinking that a paladin could not cast the spell at a lower level than his minimum.
1 x 4 x 50 = 200gp
Even if that isn't true, my point still stands (just need a better example).