Make the arrows yourself. If you have craft bows, it doesn't matter if their silver, cold iron, or adamantine, it'll still be a DC 12 craft bows check. Only difference is length of process to make them. Not a big deal.
Get an efficient quiver, and now you can pick whichever arrow you want from the quiver. Save the +2 bonus for either an actual +2 enhancement bonus or for: merciful, seeking, and/or adaptive (gold bonus, not actual bonus #).
A +3 weapon bypasses DR (damage reduction) for silver and cold iron.
A +4 bypasses adamantine.
And a +5 bypasses alignment DR.
The actual arrows aren't made of the material, so if you actually wanted to use those kinds of arrows it's either craft them yourself for 1/3 the price, or have the DM put the custom +2 bonus enchantment on the bow.
Personally, I'd make my own arrows and save the +2 bonus.
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+3 weapons act as cold iron and silver. +4 acts as adamantine, +5 acts as aligned.
Archers probably have the least issues with alternate materials. Now, I've never played carrion crown,but cold iron arrows cost all of 1 gp more, so most archers never buy regular arrows. Rather than buying material'd arrows, buy silver and adamantine weapon blanches, they are super cheap, and add them to your cold iron arrows. Now they're silver/cold iron or cold iron/adamantine! Blanches are super cheap to put on arrows, and if you have some extra dimensional storage just pull new arrows out when you run dry. An efficient quiver holds 60 arrows I believe.
The last amazing blanch is found in the Pathffinder Society Field guide, and is called ghost salt weapon blanch. Basically, you spend 200 gp and suddenly 10 of your arrows can hurt incorporeals for full damage. It's a specific +1 weapon enchantment (ghost touch) for 200gp on 10 arrows each (oh, and it get's past the dr of those rare incorporeal demons or fey because there's no point to not use cold iron arrows as well)
To note for blanches: each blanch applies to 1 melee weapon or 10 pieces of ammunition. It is only effective for 1 hit. Good thing arrows are destroyed when they hit. It stays on when you miss and need to roll the 50%.
Get an efficient quiver, and now you can pick whichever arrow you want from the quiver.
Would you happen to know which rulebook/page states this?
Just got a +1 Bow enchanted.
Problem is need multiple types of arrows (Carrion Crown) and GM disallowed 'Abundant Ammunition' claiming it's brown.
As an alternative, he will allow me to enchant my bow such that I can change the arrow used into whatever material needed: for a +2 adder on the bow.
I know +3 weapons bypass silver. Considering I also use Cold Iron and Adamantium, is this +2 mod cost worth it? Or will a +3 weapon do the same thing?
"it's brown"??
A +2 is better that various materials. Just buy your standard arrows as iron, plus a few of the other types. When you get a +3 bow, just buy a few adamantium.
Get an efficient quiver, and now you can pick whichever arrow you want from the quiver.Would you happen to know which rulebook/page states this?
The quiver itself says you can get the arrow you need as wanted from the quiver. The arrows count as ammunition.
"Efficient Quiver: This appears to be a typical arrow container capable of holding about 20 arrows. It has three distinct portions, each with a nondimensional space allowing it to store far more than would normally be possible.
The first and smallest one can contain up to 60 objects of the same general size and shape as an arrow. The second slightly longer compartment holds up to 18 objects of the same general size and shape As a javelin. The third and longest portion of the case contains as many as 6 objects of the same general size and shape as a bow (spears, staffs, or the like). Once the owner has filled it, the quiver can quickly produce any item she wishes that is within the quiver, as if from a regular quiver or scabbard. The efficient quiver weighs the same no matter what's placed inside it."
2nd to last sentence is the part you need to read.
How much ability to extrapolate does it take to realize he meant "broken?"
I presumed that right off, but was also curious about the phrase, as I've never heard it before. Just because you know what someone likely means doesn't mean you can't ask for further elucidation. ;)
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How much ability to extrapolate does it take to realize he meant "broken?"I presumed that right off, but was also curious about the phrase, as I've never heard it before. Just because you know what someone likely means doesn't mean you can't ask for further elucidation. ;)
Yea I too thought brown was some new(or old) term meaning broken.
EDIT: to which I mean to say I wasn't quite sure and was curious about it as well.
You don't need abundant ammunition, you just need Durable Arrows. They're 1gp each rather than 1gp for 20, but it's the best way to get special material arrows for cheap.
How much ability to extrapolate does it take to realize he meant "broken?"
So rather than let the Op answer you had to be snarky? Thanks.
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Take the clustered shots feat and call it a day.
If your problem is trying to bypass DR take a look at weapon blanches.
Just got a +1 Bow enchanted.
Problem is need multiple types of arrows (Carrion Crown) and GM disallowed 'Abundant Ammunition' claiming it's brown.
As an alternative, he will allow me to enchant my bow such that I can change the arrow used into whatever material needed: for a +2 adder on the bow.
I know +3 weapons bypass silver. Considering I also use Cold Iron and Adamantium, is this +2 mod cost worth it? Or will a +3 weapon do the same thing?
"it's brown"??
Sorry, meant broken.
Thought I was about to learn some cool new slang. :)
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Save money and book keeping and just use clustered shots and don't worry about all the other junk. Want to get past DR, just deal more damage. Even the highest DRs can be solved with more damage.
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Like notabot says clustered shots and more damage. I tell this to people at PFS all the time. Save your gold buy +1 holy weapon. First it by passes alignment DR, so effectively it by passes evil outsiders. Second it adds 2D6 Holy damage to each hit. See the statement of more damage the better. The only down side of holy it dose not work on neutral alignment. For the most part you should be able to avoid that type of conflict if your playing the good guys.
For example :
Level 6 full BAB, and rapid shot provides 3 attacks per round. With the total to hit bonus affecting what is better the +3 or Holy. As there damage can be close to the same, or with the holy being much higher as the +3 not affect you chances of hitting enough.
Ranger 6 Dex 23(20base + 1 forth level +2 item) Str 10
BAB 6 + Dex 6 = 12 - 2 Rapid Shot -2 Deadly Aim = 8
Bow +3 = 11/11/6 Damage + 7 Bow +1 Holy = 9/9/4 Damage + 5 +2D6
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Well, if you and I and Deadmoon all start using "brown" with that intention, then it will be a polite way of saying that. I suggest we begin immediately! There are a number of things and people I've been meaning to insult. ;)This was my interpretation as well.How much ability to extrapolate does it take to realize he meant "broken?"I thought "brown" was a way to politely say bovine excrement.
Using the word "brown" to imply an explicative is so brown guys.
For Fifth Element fans - it can also be seen as the opposite of "green,"
"Superbrown!"
Is it to be used as a noun, adjective, or adverb?
Noun: I'm tired of this brown.
Adjective: I've had nothing but brown luck.
Adverb: He was hitting like brown.
All of them! Brown is the black.
And don't forget the verb: I've been browning all morning.
Save your gold buy +1 holy weapon.
18,500+ gold and 36 fame later...
I think I'd rather do 3.5 less damage per arrow (frost, flame, shock, acid) for around 8,500 gold at 27 Fame. And if the mob isn't evil...you're screwed with Holy. Pick the resist you think you'll bypass the most - maybe acid or shock. When you get to 36 fame, consider making the move to Holy.
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The gold is not the problem. The fame is the hard part. If you have a +1 weapon it is only 16,00gp to up grade it to holy. The 36 fame you can do this between the levels of 6(max) to 9(avg. 4 per level). Even with the new rules for fame and how it works with season 5. It dose not matter how you look at it your looking at needing a +3 or holy weapon to by pass DR. Holy has the advantage of doing extra damage if you don't need the extra to hit.
Adding the cost of the bow, STR, and darkwood. It's well over 18,000 out the door.
I definately agree with what others said - Clustered Shots is a must!
I read once that if you use Clustered Shots that only your first arrow shot needs to bypass DR. I call B.S. on that one.
*edit* I edited the post above yours on the fly. Wasn't messing with you. ~cheers.
