if you are standing in a threatened square, you would provoke. is there a way you could use acrobatics or something else to avoid the attack of opportunity? restricted withdraw or a feat maybe?
Yes. Ki Stand feat while using a ki point.
Mobility does not help when standing from prone since it is not considered a "move". It is a move action, but so is drawing a potion from your belt and mobility does not help with that.
Edit: For the corner case: Super situational so I would probably allow it.
As a side note you cannot be tripped while flying.
Once a character was compelled to remain lying down i.e. remain prone due to a compulsion spell and then got fly cast on them. This was one of the only times I have ever witnessed a flying prone character. Hilarious.
Blessing of Fervor grants the ability to get up without provoking as one of its options.
Blessing of Fervor grants the ability to get up without provoking as one of its options.
so, the casting of the spell won't provoke and once it's cast you can stand without provoking.....?
Blessing of Fervor grants the ability to get up without provoking as one of its options.
so, the casting of the spell won't provoke and once it's cast you can stand without provoking.....?
No, if the Cleric is the one laying prone, and he casts the spell, he would still provoke as normal, as the spell hasn't been cast yet.
However, Blessing of Fervor affects the Clerics allies as well; the assumption was that you aren't the Cleric, but one of his allies, and the Cleric had previously cast the spell during combat.
ki stand works for monks
can you use a restricted withdraw to move your base speed without provoking? might not make a difference because the AOO is on the standing, not withdraw
Rogue Crawl (rogue talent) would allow you to 5ft step while crawling to avoid the AoO (I believe it would, right?) and then you could stand up (hopefully out of a threatened area) safely. You could even take Stand Up (another rogue talent) to stand up as a free action after crawling!
Totally worth two rogue talents to solve this situation! :P
Rogue Crawl (rogue talent) would allow you to 5ft step while crawling to avoid the AoO (I believe it would, right?) and then you could stand up (hopefully out of a threatened area) safely. You could even take Stand Up (another rogue talent) to stand up as a free action after crawling!
Totally worth two rogue talents to solve this situation! :P
5 foot crawl no attack of opp....free action standing up...still get move and standard actions?
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Rogue Crawl (Ex)
Benefit: While prone, a rogue with this ability can move at half speed. This movement provokes attacks of opportunity as normal. A rogue with this talent can take a 5-foot step while crawling.
Stand Up (Ex)
Benefit: A rogue with this ability can stand up from a prone position as a free action. This still provokes attacks of opportunity for standing up while threatened by a foe.
You could use Rogue Crawl to make a 5' step away from the adjacent foe, then use Stand Up as a free action. However, because you used a 5' step, you may not move that round. I cannot remember if you simply cannot move after a 5' step, or cannot use a move action period. You will still have your standard action left.
Edit: Personally I favor Ki Stand :D It doesn't help if you're not a Monk. Do Ninjas get it since they get a Ki Pool as well?
5 ft step/crawl can't be used with a movement.
can you ever use your standard action as a move action ..base speed or restricted withdraw
Blessing of Fervor would work fine on a prone cleric.
Cleric starts prone. Casts BoF while casting defensively. Selects the stand up option, then uses his swift action to stand up.
- Gauss
Blessing of Fervor would work fine on a prone cleric.
Cleric starts prone. Casts BoF while casting defensively. Selects the swift acton option, then uses his swift action to stand up.
- Gauss
Casting defensively, yes. Bran didn't mention it, so I didn't take it into account.
DC would be a 23; assuming you're at the first level you can cast it (7th) and you've got a +4 to WIS (and no traits\feats that grant additional bonuses), you'd need to roll a 12 or higher to pull it off. Not a 'gimme' but not impossible either.
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5 ft step/crawl can't be used with a movement.
can you ever use your standard action as a move action ..base speed or restricted withdraw
You can trade a Standard for a Move yes. You still cannot move after taking a 5' step however. :T
Edit:
"Moving out of a threatened square usually provokes attacks of opportunity from threatening opponents. There are two common methods of avoiding such an attack—the 5-foot step and the withdraw action."
"You can take a move action in place of a standard action. If you move no actual distance in a round (commonly because you have swapped your move action for one or more equivalent actions), you can take one 5-foot step either before, during, or after the action."
"Withdraw
Withdrawing from melee combat is a full-round action. When you withdraw, you can move up to double your speed. The square you start out in is not considered threatened by any opponent you can see, and therefore visible enemies do not get attacks of opportunity against you when you move from that square. Invisible enemies still get attacks of opportunity against you, and you can't withdraw from combat if you're blinded. You can't take a 5-foot step during the same round in which you withdraw.
If, during the process of withdrawing, you move out of a threatened square (other than the one you started in), enemies get attacks of opportunity as normal.
You may not withdraw using a form of movement for which you don't have a listed speed.
Note that despite the name of this action, you don't actually have to leave combat entirely.
Restricted Withdraw
If you are limited to taking only a standard action each round you can withdraw as a standard action. In this case, you may move up to your speed."
Monkey Style will also allow you to stand up from prone without drawing an attack of opportunity. Plus you can do it as a Swift Action with a DC 20 Acrobatics check.
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The best of 4 worlds! Bonus to Acrobatics, remove penalties, do not provoke AoO crawling/standing up, and can use a swift action get up.
Requirements, unless otherwise, is at least a base Level 5. A single level of Master of Many Styles or Unarmed Fighter can bypass the requirements.
Edit: ack, ninja'd. It's what I get for grabbing some coffee....
Xaratherus,
Realistically, at level 7 a Cleric would have a 20 or 22 wisdom and +2 to +8 Casting Defensively bonus depending on how much they wanted to focus on it.
Additionally, by level 7 I would probably have Spellguard Bracers so would be rolling 2d20 which effectively adds a +5 bonus.
If I am a cleric that is regularly up in combat I would have the Spellguard Bracers and thus wouldn't fail that check very often.
- Gauss
Oladon, interesting, so the RAW is that it does nothing for anyone in the space between the time the cleric casts it and the start of their next turn.
Hmmm, probably not RAI and I have always let people decide the bonus in the moment the spell came into existence. Oh well. :)
- Gauss
Blessing of Fervor would work fine on a prone cleric.
Cleric starts prone. Casts BoF while casting defensively. Selects the swift acton option, then uses his swift action to stand up.
- Gauss
Casting defensively, yes. Bran didn't mention it, so I didn't take it into account.
DC would be a 23; assuming you're at the first level you can cast it (7th) and you've got a +4 to WIS (and no traits\feats that grant additional bonuses), you'd need to roll a 12 or higher to pull it off. Not a 'gimme' but not impossible either.
nice on casting defensively but won't that just get the spell off while being whacked with AOO ? unless the monster has combat expertise, he would blow his only AOO on the spell being cast lol
@Bran: No, successfully casting defensively avoids the AoO entirely; you're basically rolling to actively defend yourself from provoking while casting.
@Gauss: Assuming the build is going for caster intensive, yes. And as I said I wasn't including any additional factors like feats or traits (which would include magic items).
Bran, when you cast defensively, the casting doesn't provoke, regardless of whether or not you succeed on the concentration roll. So the only question then becomes whether you can make the concentration check to actually get the spell off.
sry... running around in circles lol you are right on cast defen.
was originaly wondering if acrobatics could be used
ty for post
Since I'm too lazy to look it up right now, does the Grace spell prevent AoOs from standing up, or just normal movement?
Just movement.
I would say yes you could stand up with grace and use mobility feat as well while standing.
Get up from prone is movement. So both grace and Mobility work.
Tell me how you would get up from prone with out moving?
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http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/landing-roll-combat
Hey! This is a decent one too.
"Landing Roll
Prerequisite: Dex 13, Dodge, Mobility.
Benefit: If you are tripped, you can spend an immediate action to move 5 feet without provoking an attack of opportunity. This does not count as taking a 5-foot step. You fall prone after this movement."
Of course it won't apply to every situation.
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Get up from prone is movement. So both grace and Mobility work.
Tell me how you would get up from prone with out moving?
The same way you retrieve a stored item without "moving" or draw a weapon without "moving" or attack without "moving" or cast a somatic spell without "moving".
Must be awfully hard to take a 5ft step in your games.
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I just wanted to add that the Combat Expertise Feat, though it wouldn't prevent the AoO from triggering, could help a character when standing up.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/conditions#TOC-Prone
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/combat-expertise-combat
While on their butt, a Prone character use their Standard Action to make a Combat Expertise melee attack against their enemy, applying the -4 penalty for being Prone AND the penalty from Combat Expertise. It will most likely be a miss, but the Combat Expertise dodge bonus to AC applies regardless of how the attack turns out.
The character now use a Move Action to stand up, but the -4 AC from being Prone is offset by the dodge bonus to AC from Combat Expertise. At +12 BAB, the -4 AC penalty is totally negated and, once standing, the dodge bonus to AC continues to apply until your next turn.
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