Scenario #6: "Black Waters" Questions


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Grand Lodge

Sunday night in my Ray's Pathfinder Society Home-Game I ran 3 Players and one Pre-Gen PC through Season Zero's "Black Waters" and I have a few questions/ concerns.

"Black Waters" Spoilers:

1} The Cheliax Faction mission asks the Pathfinder to do 2 things, collect some bubbling black water and get a Broach from a noblewoman. The Pathfinder collected the bubbling black water easily enough but there is nothing in the Scenario for the Pathfinder to make an attempt on the Broach.

When the PCs enter the noblewoman's home there is a line of text that reads the Chelaxian members are probably not able to get the broach at this time but an opportunity will present itself later. There are no mechanics available in the text for a DM to -- in standardized play -- give a Chelaxian memeber an attempt at this time: no mention of where the broach is located (presumably on the noblewoman), no mention of Sleight of Hand DCs or any Skill Check DCs if a Pathfinder wants to make the attempt anyway (or ramifications if the Pathfinder is caught).

Moreover, there is nothing at the end of the Scenario that gives the Chelaxian member an opportunity to make Skill checks to steal or negotiate for the Broach.
Question: May I have ruled that the noblewoman gives the Broach to the Pathfinder as an additional reward for not merely finding info on her lost daughter but actually rescuing lost daughter?

2} Regarding Prestige Points in this Scenario, especially considering the dilemma of my first question -- Pathfinders can't actually earn more than one Prestige Point for their Faction mission can they? The Faction Rewards in this Scenario imply that if the Chelaxian Pathfinder completes both Faction missions he or she can gain two Prestige Points for the Faction (in addition to the Prestige Point from completing the overall Pathfinder mission). This I'm certain is incorrect. But the only other way I read it is that the Chelaxian does not gain Faction Prestige from getting the bubbling black water but only gets Faction Prestige from getting the noblewoman's Broach.
Please clarify this for me.
(Note: I have not yet reported nor even filled out the Players' Chronicles -- we're all friends who game in my non-Society Home-game anyway; I've got a couple days.)

3} During the Scenario the Pathfinders in SubTier 1-2 find a set of +1 Full Plate armor while the Pathfinders in SubTier 4-5 find a set of +2 Full Plate armor. Meanwhile, both SubTiers find the Ring of Sustenance keeping the little girl alive. On the Chronicle, however, The SubTier 1-2 does not list the +1 Full Plate (the SubTier 4-5 does include the +2 Full Plate) and the 4-5 SubTier does not include the Ring of Sustenance but the SubTier 1-2 does. WTF?

4} Please confirm that I do not report anything for the Pre-Gen PC run by the DM. We had 3 Players and I filled the table with a PreGen.

5 Please confirm that the Event Number for Ray's Pathfinder Society Home-Game is 1275. (I've never seen it before but I noticed the Event # line on the Chronicle.)

The Exchange 5/5

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1) Missions like that are a rarity these days. You get to put on your creative hat and actually determine the path to success. If the player wants to steal it, make it a challenge but allow for a creative solution. They also could demand it as a reward for saving the daughter. In the past I have had the mother pass out when presented with her living child, granted a Chelaxian PC the brief opportunity to snatch the brooch. There are a lot of skill solutions that a player could invent. Sleight-of-hand it off the owner, stealth/disable device to break into the home, intimidate a household servant into stealing it from their mistress's collection, diplomacy to request as a reward for the safe return of her daughter.

2)

Page 34 of the Guide to PFS Organized Play wrote:
When running a Season 0 scenario with 1 Prestige Point available per PC, treat this as the sole faction mission, and award a second Prestige Point to PCs who complete the overall scenario goal, as given by the venture-captain at the scenario’s introduction. If a Season 0 scenario has two faction missions per faction, completing the overall scenario goal does not award a Prestige Point. Award 1 Prestige Point for each faction mission completed or 1/2 Prestige Point for characters on the slow advancement track.

3) Items such as armor enchanted to +1 are Always Available, thus it's not necessary to put access on the Chronicle. Above a +1, such as the full plate, will show up. If the players played the higher Tier, they get access to both the low tier and the high tier equipment, so again it is redundant to put the ring on the high tier list.

4) Don't report the pre-gen.

5) That isn't the right event code unless you created the event in December 2009. If you have created the event as a private home game, then only the organizer, a Venture-Officer or a Paizo staffer may see the code. Current event codes should be in the 28,000 range.

Sorry, I posted early to beat the ninjas.

Grand Lodge

Thanks Doug.

Any help on questions 3, 4, or 5?

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3) That's normal. +1 Full Plate is always available, so is not on the chronicle sheet. +2 Full Plate is not. Upper tier has access to everything that the lower tier gets, so no need to duplicate the ring of sustenance line.

4) Confirmed.

The Exchange 5/5

It's too late now, but in the future you may want to hunt down the original GM Discussion thread for some helpful tips from the folks who have run the scenario previously (sometimes multiple times). Keep in mind the scenario was published before the Pathfinder RPG was released, so some of the crunchy parts need to be converted.

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