Adamantine Weapons

[Lou Diamond]

Are adamintine weapons always avaible or do you have to have the right ammonunt of prestige to buy them?

[Kintrik]

it is always available

Guide to PFS, page 25 wrote:

All basic armor, gear, items, and weapons from Chapter 6 of the Core Rulebook, including Small and Large-sized

items. This does not include equipment made from
dragonhide, but it does include equipment made from
the other special materials, such as alchemical silver
and cold iron (see the Special Materials section on
page 154 of the Core Rulebook). All mundane (completely
nonmagical) weapons, armor, equipment, and
alchemical gear found in any other source that is legal
for play are considered always available.

[Nefreet]

A +1 Adamantine Weapon is always available, too. After that point you have to calculate the total value of the piece to determine when you can upgrade it further.

[Matthew Pittard]

For a second I thought Adamintine was a new Skymetal I had not heard of before.

[Robert A Matthews]

Never buy adamantine ammunition. 100 GP for an adamantine weapon blanch gives you 10 pieces of ammunition, as opposed to 60 GP per missile.

[JohnF]

Robert A Matthews wrote:

Never buy adamantine ammunition. 100 GP for an adamantine weapon blanch gives you 10 pieces of ammunition, as opposed to 60 GP per missile.

It's not entirely clear to me whether this works for PFS. Does treated ammunition persist across scenarios, or is the treatment an effect which is nullified at the end of a scenario?

Mind you,even then it's a good deal if you use two of your bullets (or arrows, or whatever your weapon uses).

[Robert A Matthews]

JohnF wrote:

It's not entirely clear to me whether this works for PFS. Does treated ammunition persist across scenarios, or is the treatment an effect which is nullified at the end of a scenario?

Yes, blanched ammunition carries over between scenarios.

Mark Moreland wrote:

As long as the use of the blanch is accounted for on a Chronicle sheet (under items used) I can't see a reason their effects would go away between scenarios. In general, however, poisons and weapon blanches should be applied to weapons at the start of scenarios rather than the end to lessen the chance of you needing to keep track of whether they're still in effect at the start of the next session.

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[Nefreet]

Unfortunately you still can't apply an Adamantine Weapon Blanch to a Gunslinger's Paper Cartridges, so 36gp a pop (or 6.1gp per bullet) is the only way to go.

[Chris Kenney]

Robert A Matthews wrote:

Never buy adamantine ammunition. 100 GP for an adamantine weapon blanch gives you 10 pieces of ammunition, as opposed to 60 GP per missile.

Also, one thing to note is that Blanch only lets you bypass DR. To deal with Hardness or special defenses, you still need the real deal. (And yes, the distinction does come up.)

[BigNorseWolf]

Go ahead and buy the adamantite weapon without fear. It doesn't increase the fame score required to get the weapon

Adamantitite, +1 5,100 Normal +1 2,400 Fame required 0
Adamantitite, +2 11,100 Normal +2 8,400 Fame required 27
Adamantitite, +3 21,100 Normal +3 18,400 Fame required 36
Adamantitite, +4 35,100 Normal +4 32,400 Fame required 45
Adamantitite, +5 53,100 Normal +5 50,400 Fame required 49
Adamantitite, +6 75,100 Normal +6 72,400 Fame required 58
Adamantitite, +7 101,100 Normal +7 98,400 Fame required 63
Adamantitite, +8 131,100 Normal +8 128,400 Fame required 67
Adamantitite, +9 165,100 Normal +9 162,400 Fame required 72
Adamantitite, +10 203,100 Normal +10 200,400 Fame required 72

[CWheezy]

Luckily for gunslingers, you can use abundant ammunition with adamantine bullets, AND you only need to buy like 5 of them, since they aren't magical

[Howie23]

BNW, If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that even though the cost of an adamantine weapons are higher, they happen to be entirely in the same fame tiers for purchasing them compared to non-adamantine weapons, where both have the same enhancement/enchantment?

[El Baron de los Banditos]

Howie23 wrote:

BNW, If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that even though the cost of an adamantine weapons are higher, they happen to be entirely in the same fame tiers for purchasing them compared to non-adamantine weapons, where both have the same enhancement/enchantment?

Right. That 3k never pushes you into the next tier by itself. With other non-bonus enhancements (like transformative), it might, but that's a lot more math.

[BigNorseWolf]

Howie23 wrote:

BNW, If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that even though the cost of an adamantine weapons are higher, they happen to be entirely in the same fame tiers for purchasing them compared to non-adamantine weapons, where both have the same enhancement/enchantment?

Yup.

[Thod]

Robert A Matthews wrote:

Never buy adamantine ammunition. 100 GP for an adamantine weapon blanch gives you 10 pieces of ammunition, as opposed to 60 GP per missile.

If you don't have the books in which weapon blanches are then adamantin missiles is your only available option to overcome hardness.

Weapon blanches are NOT in the CRB. And I would assume that >50% of players don't have the books.

Edit: just checked the source - it's APG - so might be less as 50% missing the book. . But we have to be careful to suggest options that are not available to everyone and state these are a must have.

[Vamptastic]

Wouldn't adamantine ammo be unbreakable?

[El Baron de los Banditos]

Ammo breaks on any hit and has a 50% chance of breaking on a miss, regardless of material. Realistic? Not entirely, but it's wholly a balance feature.

[Mergy]

The advantage that adamantine ammunition has over blanched ammunition is the ability to penetrate hardness less than 20. It's very good for fighting animated objects that have hardness instead of DR. It may also be useful for the odd archer archetype fighter that sunders with arrows.

[Nefreet]

My apologies for linking to the PFSRD, but one could always just purchase an adamantine version of an Arrow, Durable from Elves of Golarion.

[Eric Clingenpeel]

Unfortunately the arrows from Elves of Golarion are not listed in the Additional Resources

Additional Resources wrote:

Pathfinder Player Companion: Elves of Golarion

Equipment: clustershot, healer's sorrow, and sparkfly crystal arrow weapon qualities; Gods: all gods on page 10; Traits: all traits on page 15 except Kyonin Gatekeeper and Lapsed Faith

Believe me, I'd love to buy some durable arrows, but alas it is not possible in PFS.

[Robert A Matthews]

Arrows get all the love. What about crossbow bolts?

[Stonecunning]

Are adamantine weapons really worth it when you could just buy a golembain scarab? I've been on the fence about getting rid of my flavouriffic MW Obsidian Dwarven Waraxe and just going for an adamantine version instead, but it's a heck of a lot of money.

[Eric Clingenpeel]

Its nice to have a big adamantine weapon when you want to chop through the iron door.

[Stonecunning]

But it IS +3000 GP to cut down a door when it eventually does come up...

[Fromper]

Yeah, I'm thinking by the time you can afford the adamantine weapon, there are cheaper way of dealing with such things. Knock is only a 2nd level spell.

[Mergy]

It's also nice to have the ability to sunder with ease. Most PFS enemies carry only one melee weapon.

[RainyDayNinja]

I'm more worried about golems and stoneskin than doors.

[Stonecunning]

Golembane scarab is a lot cheaper.

[Nefreet]

An Adamantine weapon was first on the list of things to get for my Sundering Magus.

[BigNorseWolf]

Stonecunning wrote:

Are adamantine weapons really worth it when you could just buy a golembain scarab? I've been on the fence about getting rid of my flavouriffic MW Obsidian Dwarven Waraxe and just going for an adamantine version instead, but it's a heck of a lot of money.

The scarab

-Is only 500gp cheaper
-Occupies the very valuable neck slot: unless you have a druid on retainer you'll want an amulet of natural armor
- Doesn't let you heroically cleave through chains binding captives, doors the villains shut, blocks of ice, stone, and other things that the bad guys will encase you or your party member in.

[Nefreet]

I suppose it's cheap enough to keep in your Haversack until you encounter a golem.

[Saint Caleth]

Stonecunning wrote:

But it IS +3000 GP to cut down a door when it eventually does come up...

It is so cathartic when you actually get the chance that it is totally worth it.

[RainyDayNinja]

Saint Caleth wrote:

Stonecunning wrote:

But it IS +3000 GP to cut down a door when it eventually does come up...

It is so cathartic when you actually get the chance that it is totally worth it.

I played with someone who was so excited to use his adamantine greatsword, he chopped down a statue that was supposed to give us an important clue.