It's "canon"


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Cannons are things which fire cannonballs.

Canon is a body of work deemed "official".

Scarab Sages

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So most of the time it should be 'canonical' or 'part of canon'...

Just kidding: Remember, this is an international messageboard, some people post from smart phones or have other reasonable explanations for typos.

IMO as long as everybody know what is meat (or can check so by asking a single question) it shouldn't be worth making an extra thread.


Education is always worth it.

I figured a new thread had the advantage of not having a go at any specific person.

Silver Crusade

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Did You Know:

The Trojan War was non-cannon?

Scarab Sages

I don't even know if historians consider it canon(incal).


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There are languages where the spelling makes sense.

English is not one of them.


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I dunno, some players and GMs are awful protective of their favorite settings. It wouldn't surprise me if some took it to the extreme of using setting sourcebooks/notes as gunpowder-propelled projectiles directed at other, less reverent players... "Fire THE CANON!" <BOOM!>

"Dear James Jacobs, What is the crit range/multiplier on the Inner Sea hardcover?"

Silver Crusade

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BigNorseWolf wrote:

There are languages where the spelling makes sense.

English is not one of them.

I take issue with this and will be reporting this post on Wednesday.

Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

"Fire THE CANON!" <BOOM!>

Y'know, considering the knockdown dragout arguments the board sees sometimes, this actually becomes a viable tactic...

IANJJ, but I think Seekers of Secrets' damage got nerfed.


BRING OUT THE CANON CANNON


Ensirio the Longstrider wrote:
BRING OUT THE CANON CANNON

But it's not canon yet. We have to wait three more sourcebooks and two erratas.

Would you like the fan fiction phazer lazer?


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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


Also it's Ganon. Gannon was a typo.

The Exchange

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BigNorseWolf wrote:

There are languages where the spelling makes sense.

English is not one of them.

Did you mean;

Their are languages were the spelling makes cents.

English is knot won of them. ?

Silver Crusade

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Nasza wymowa jest niezaprzeczalnie najprostsza i najprzejrzystsza!


Gorbacz wrote:
Nasza wymowa jest niezaprzeczalnie najprostsza i najprzejrzystsza!

A także niezrównanie elegancka i nieporównanie bardziej cywilizowana.

Sovereign Court

Moorluck wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

There are languages where the spelling makes sense.

English is not one of them.

Did you mean;

Their are languages were the spelling makes cents.

English is knot won of them. ?

Oi, mwsh, don't be twp: that semi-colon should be a colon.

Also, 'Were and 'where' are not homophones and the H represents the small aspiration.

Everyone I have heard pronounces the T in 'cents' too, and won/one is nobody's idea of a homophone. So we're left with there/their/they're and a knotty problem... chwarae teg.

The English language actually has lots of clear and sensible spelling rules, it is just that it is an exception based system (like Pathfinder). I like, for example, how elegantly the rules help us to say 'mat', 'mate', matte' and 'matter' correctly.


Mikaze wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

There are languages where the spelling makes sense.

English is not one of them.

I take issue with this and will be reporting this post on Wednesday.

To the Hednesford Courier or the Salisbury Times?


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GeraintElberion wrote:

...Also, 'Were and 'where' are not homophones and the H represents the small aspiration.

Everyone I have heard pronounces the T in 'cents' too, and won/one is nobody's idea of a homophone. So we're left with there/their/they're and a knotty problem... chwarae teg...

{sips free coffee, stands in front of room of strangers} Hello, my name is Ambrosia... and... and.. I'm homophonbic!


GeraintElberion wrote:


The English language actually has lots of clear and sensible spelling rules, it is just that it is an exception based system (

and when there are more exceptions than rules, as well as completely arbitrary double letters (cannon vs canon) its hard to say that there are rules at all.

Sovereign Court

BigNorseWolf wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:


The English language actually has lots of clear and sensible spelling rules, it is just that it is an exception based system (

and when there are more exceptions than rules, as well as completely arbitrary double letters (cannon vs canon) its hard to say that there are rules at all.

And yet, beginning with these rules is a major part of effective language teaching: whodathunkit?

If only we had a French-style system of oversight!


Mock me all you want. This thread made me feel better. :)


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GeraintElberion wrote:


Also, 'Were and 'where' are not homophones and the H represents the small aspiration.

Everyone I have heard pronounces the T in 'cents' too, and won/one is nobody's idea of a homophone. So we're left with there/their/they're and a knotty problem... chwarae teg.

'where' and 'wear' are homophones regardless of the 'h' ("We're" is just pronounced differently, unless it's 'were' as in 'werewolf'). Also, anytime there is an 's' after an 'n' that 't' sound squiggles it's way in there, and won and one sound exactly the same.


Ragnarok Aeon wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:


Also, 'Were and 'where' are not homophones and the H represents the small aspiration.

Everyone I have heard pronounces the T in 'cents' too, and won/one is nobody's idea of a homophone. So we're left with there/their/they're and a knotty problem... chwarae teg.

'where' and 'wear' are homophones regardless of the 'h' ("We're" is just pronounced differently, unless it's 'were' as in 'werewolf'). Also, anytime there is an 's' after an 'n' that 't' sound squiggles it's way in there, and won and one sound exactly the same.

Was about to say this exact thing. Might not be so in your experience GE, but in mine all those are spoken exactly the same. How do they pronounce Won and One where you're from, if not both the same?


Can't answer for GE, but we were taught based on English Received Pronunciation that using the international phonetic language, One = [wʌn], and Won = [wŭn]. Or to use Swedish spelling (with the proviso that in reality we don't have the thick v-sound represented by 'w'): One = Wan, and Won = Wonn.

Which admittedly is a much smaller difference than the between we're [wɪə(ɹ)], were [wɜː(ɹ) or wə(ɹ)], and where [ʍɛə(ɹ)], which if I were to transcribe into Swedish spelling would be we'r, wör, and wär


Yeah, I had a feeling there was a bit of "learned English professionally/as a second language" going on.

For people who grew up speaking it, American English at least, they're all pretty much indistinguishable within the provided pairs/sets. Can't speak for British. For pretty much everyone I've ever spoken with in person or over the phone, one and won are "wuhn", which is the pronunciation that Dictionary.com gives for both. (One versus Won). Where and Ware are both "wair"; We're is "weer".

Cents specifically points out being easily confused with "scents" and "sense" - again, everyone I've lived around speaking it is fairly lazy with making the "t" sound distinct when the word is plural (no issues with it when singular obviously), likely due to growing up using the language very casually compared to learning it as a second language in a professional or academic environment.


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Did you know the words "cannon", "canon", and "canyon" have the same root? They all come from the Latin "Canna" (a cane or long tube).

The difference in their writing comes from the fact English addopted "Cannon" from the French when refering to a gun, "Canyon" from the Spanish when refering to a a large ravine, and "Canon" from the Church when refering to a body of rules.

The more you know <takes off on a rainbow>.


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So the Internet is canon, then? You know, because it's a series of tubes...


Canon 's an ecclesiastical title (rank?), too...


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Blasts into the thread atop of an automated tank wearing a shirt saying "This is Canon!" with a Canon EOS Rebel T4i Digital SLR Camera in one-hand and a canon-shaped tankard of Boston Lager in in the other.

Let's have a blast everybody!


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In Queen's English (yeah, okay, not many people speak it these days, but it is still around), "where" is spoken with an abbreviated "h" at the start. If emphasised, it sounds like "h'wear". Which is very different to "wear", and clearly distinct. Most people make it a homophone of wear, though. A similar pronunciation holds true for "why" (h'wy) and "what" (h'wat). "Who" is an interesting case, seeing as the "w" doesn't really get pronounced at all by anyone.

I have a rather interesting time of things, actually, since my own linguistic style tends towards Queen's English (though many people think I sound like an Australian, apparently), but my wife (from West Yorkshire) has very different pronunciations for the same words (for example, it is impossible to misinterpret whether she means "one" or "won", even without context, because the former sounds like "wun").

And don't get us started on "bath", "grass" or "glass", because we could go on for hours (I use "barth" and the others end with "arse", not "ass").


As a Scandinavian I'm going to say that I'll probably be on your wife's side in most pronunciation debates. ;)


I am Canon.


Well I am Spartacus.


No, I am Spartacus!


Both of you, we'll change your name to "Dead" very shortly.

Blessing upon thee in the name of Canon and his Church.


So what would be a church record of official artillery nominated for sainthood?


Sticking your head in a cannon is a start.

Riding a predator drone is a close second.

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