feytharn |
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So most of the time it should be 'canonical' or 'part of canon'...
Just kidding: Remember, this is an international messageboard, some people post from smart phones or have other reasonable explanations for typos.
IMO as long as everybody know what is meat (or can check so by asking a single question) it shouldn't be worth making an extra thread.
Ambrosia Slaad |
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I dunno, some players and GMs are awful protective of their favorite settings. It wouldn't surprise me if some took it to the extreme of using setting sourcebooks/notes as gunpowder-propelled projectiles directed at other, less reverent players... "Fire THE CANON!" <BOOM!>
"Dear James Jacobs, What is the crit range/multiplier on the Inner Sea hardcover?"
Mikaze |
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There are languages where the spelling makes sense.
English is not one of them.
I take issue with this and will be reporting this post on Wednesday.
"Fire THE CANON!" <BOOM!>
Y'know, considering the knockdown dragout arguments the board sees sometimes, this actually becomes a viable tactic...
IANJJ, but I think Seekers of Secrets' damage got nerfed.
GeraintElberion |
BigNorseWolf wrote:There are languages where the spelling makes sense.
English is not one of them.
Did you mean;
Their are languages were the spelling makes cents.
English is knot won of them. ?
Oi, mwsh, don't be twp: that semi-colon should be a colon.
Also, 'Were and 'where' are not homophones and the H represents the small aspiration.
Everyone I have heard pronounces the T in 'cents' too, and won/one is nobody's idea of a homophone. So we're left with there/their/they're and a knotty problem... chwarae teg.
The English language actually has lots of clear and sensible spelling rules, it is just that it is an exception based system (like Pathfinder). I like, for example, how elegantly the rules help us to say 'mat', 'mate', matte' and 'matter' correctly.
Ambrosia Slaad |
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...Also, 'Were and 'where' are not homophones and the H represents the small aspiration.
Everyone I have heard pronounces the T in 'cents' too, and won/one is nobody's idea of a homophone. So we're left with there/their/they're and a knotty problem... chwarae teg...
{sips free coffee, stands in front of room of strangers} Hello, my name is Ambrosia... and... and.. I'm homophonbic!
BigNorseWolf |
The English language actually has lots of clear and sensible spelling rules, it is just that it is an exception based system (
and when there are more exceptions than rules, as well as completely arbitrary double letters (cannon vs canon) its hard to say that there are rules at all.
GeraintElberion |
GeraintElberion wrote:
The English language actually has lots of clear and sensible spelling rules, it is just that it is an exception based system (and when there are more exceptions than rules, as well as completely arbitrary double letters (cannon vs canon) its hard to say that there are rules at all.
And yet, beginning with these rules is a major part of effective language teaching: whodathunkit?
If only we had a French-style system of oversight!
Ragnarok Aeon |
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Also, 'Were and 'where' are not homophones and the H represents the small aspiration.Everyone I have heard pronounces the T in 'cents' too, and won/one is nobody's idea of a homophone. So we're left with there/their/they're and a knotty problem... chwarae teg.
'where' and 'wear' are homophones regardless of the 'h' ("We're" is just pronounced differently, unless it's 'were' as in 'werewolf'). Also, anytime there is an 's' after an 'n' that 't' sound squiggles it's way in there, and won and one sound exactly the same.
Orthos |
GeraintElberion wrote:'where' and 'wear' are homophones regardless of the 'h' ("We're" is just pronounced differently, unless it's 'were' as in 'werewolf'). Also, anytime there is an 's' after an 'n' that 't' sound squiggles it's way in there, and won and one sound exactly the same.
Also, 'Were and 'where' are not homophones and the H represents the small aspiration.Everyone I have heard pronounces the T in 'cents' too, and won/one is nobody's idea of a homophone. So we're left with there/their/they're and a knotty problem... chwarae teg.
Was about to say this exact thing. Might not be so in your experience GE, but in mine all those are spoken exactly the same. How do they pronounce Won and One where you're from, if not both the same?
Kajehase |
Can't answer for GE, but we were taught based on English Received Pronunciation that using the international phonetic language, One = [wʌn], and Won = [wŭn]. Or to use Swedish spelling (with the proviso that in reality we don't have the thick v-sound represented by 'w'): One = Wan, and Won = Wonn.
Which admittedly is a much smaller difference than the between we're [wɪə(ɹ)], were [wɜː(ɹ) or wə(ɹ)], and where [ʍɛə(ɹ)], which if I were to transcribe into Swedish spelling would be we'r, wör, and wär
Orthos |
Yeah, I had a feeling there was a bit of "learned English professionally/as a second language" going on.
For people who grew up speaking it, American English at least, they're all pretty much indistinguishable within the provided pairs/sets. Can't speak for British. For pretty much everyone I've ever spoken with in person or over the phone, one and won are "wuhn", which is the pronunciation that Dictionary.com gives for both. (One versus Won). Where and Ware are both "wair"; We're is "weer".
Cents specifically points out being easily confused with "scents" and "sense" - again, everyone I've lived around speaking it is fairly lazy with making the "t" sound distinct when the word is plural (no issues with it when singular obviously), likely due to growing up using the language very casually compared to learning it as a second language in a professional or academic environment.
Klaus van der Kroft |
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Did you know the words "cannon", "canon", and "canyon" have the same root? They all come from the Latin "Canna" (a cane or long tube).
The difference in their writing comes from the fact English addopted "Cannon" from the French when refering to a gun, "Canyon" from the Spanish when refering to a a large ravine, and "Canon" from the Church when refering to a body of rules.
The more you know <takes off on a rainbow>.
Chemlak |
In Queen's English (yeah, okay, not many people speak it these days, but it is still around), "where" is spoken with an abbreviated "h" at the start. If emphasised, it sounds like "h'wear". Which is very different to "wear", and clearly distinct. Most people make it a homophone of wear, though. A similar pronunciation holds true for "why" (h'wy) and "what" (h'wat). "Who" is an interesting case, seeing as the "w" doesn't really get pronounced at all by anyone.
I have a rather interesting time of things, actually, since my own linguistic style tends towards Queen's English (though many people think I sound like an Australian, apparently), but my wife (from West Yorkshire) has very different pronunciations for the same words (for example, it is impossible to misinterpret whether she means "one" or "won", even without context, because the former sounds like "wun").
And don't get us started on "bath", "grass" or "glass", because we could go on for hours (I use "barth" and the others end with "arse", not "ass").