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How would you build some of the iconic heroes and villains from the various FF titles? I had a 3.x conversion for most of the cast of FF7, but PF brings new options to bear.
FF7:
Cloud- fighter
Barrett- gunslinger/ barbarian
Tufa- Monk
Red 13- awakened tiger elemental Druid
Aeris- oracle of life
Yuffie- ninja
Cait Sith- bard
Vincent- gunslinger
Cid- rogue?
For Cloud I would use Fighter 6/Warblade 14 if you are using stuff from 3.5. If you are dealing only with Pathfinder I would go Fighter 2/Magus 7/Fighter 6/ Eldritch Knight 5.
I would go with Half-elf for races, Mithral breastplate for armor and Great Sword for the weapon. I would build it out but I think you get the Ideal.
I noticed that the group was decidedly lacking in arcane support. But I guess everyone has maxed out use magic... materia?
FFX brought some arcane firepower though.
Lulu: evocationist wizard
Yuna: summoner (obviously)
Kimari: some sort of gished up transmutationist caster. He had a bunch of bad guy special abilities and SLAs
Tidus: a bard or magus
Riku: rogue with some magic of her own, maybe some wiz/ sorc dips
Auron: inquisitor for sure
Wakka: thrown weapon fighter type
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I always saw Rikku as a spell thief from 3.5. Now, I think she would be a magus with a lot of rogue skills, maybe even a dip or two in rogue or ninja.
Tidus probably a full out magus, but I would make him a spellstrike spec and not worry so much about spell combat (to fit his fluff).
Kimahri is the tough one... I would almost say dragoon fighter with some kind of dip into a caster class. Not sure which one though.
Cid from FF7... he's a tough one for sure. Rogue sort of fits, but I see him being a little better at toe to toe melee than a rogue.. maybe a rogue/fighter?
Notice that a "Dragoon" in PF is decidedly different than a "Dragon Knight" from FF. The same goes for virtually all of the classes... whilst similar to (and inspired by) D&D classes, they are their own animal.
Races become an issue though... A little hard to find a direct conversion for some of the non-human or enhanced humans.
Races become an issue though... A little hard to find a direct conversion for some of the non-human or enhanced humans.
Sure it is... Try me.
FF 5:
Terra Branford- druid
Locke Cole- rogue
Edgar Figaro- paladin with knowledge engineering?
Sabin Figaro- monk
Shadow- ninja /ranger
Cyan Garamonde- samurai
Gau- barbarian
Celes Chere- magus
Setter Gabbiani- bard
Strago Magus- inquisitor (didn't see that one coming did you?)
Realm Arrowny- sorcerer
For Final Fantasy VI (which you accidentally identified as V)
I think Terra would actually be closer to Magus, or perhaps Sorcerer with some Eldritch Knight or such (though that's probably Dissidia altering my opinion of her slightly).
Edgar I don't really see as a Paladin, he's a bit too lecherous for that...perhaps Fighter or Ranger.
Sabin would probably be Qinggong Monk (he definitely has some more magical abilities).
Shadow would definitely be Ninja.
Gau, I would put as either Barbarian, or perhaps Infiltrator Ranger.
Setzer would be an Arcane Duelist Bard with Deadly Dealer.
Strago honestly seems more like Wizard/Cleric/Mystic Theurge, I think (Blue Magic isn't really something easily done in DnD/PF, but I think Mystic Theurge would nicely represent his wide magical skills)
Also, Leo would definitely be some form of Paladin.
Races become an issue though... A little hard to find a direct conversion for some of the non-human or enhanced humans.Sure it is... Try me.
With all the large weapon wielding, I would say a lot of human looking tieflings. But those are supposed to have large arms.
P.S. However they could technically be considered tieflings considering.
from final fantasy VII crisis core....
Genesis:Augmented Human Magus
Angeal:Augmented Human Fighter(specialty:Heavy Blades)
Sepheroth:Augmented Human Samurai(Order of the Black Daimyo)
Zack:Fighter(specialty:Heavy Blades)
for Squall......Probably human Gunslinger with a sword cane pistol, but replace the pistol with a revolver.
for Squall......Probably human Gunslinger with a sword cane pistol, but replace the pistol with a revolver.
No, the FFVIII Gunblade doesn't shoot bullets
OMG! I totally meant to put FF6! Duh...
The reason I put Terra as a Druid, was because she could turn into an esper. It was either Druid or synthesis summoner...
I really like Gau as a barb/ infiltrator ranger, good call!
As for Strago, you are probly right, I just thought that his lore ability reminded me of inquisitor.
Edgar was a bit of a ? for me. Maybe lore warden fighter, with maxed out engineering?
@ Sir Hexen Ineptus: what races were you wondering about?
I'm still not sure, Terra's transformation doesn't really fit into any class abilities (except maybe a higher-level druid's Wild Shape into an Elemental). And the Sorcerer/Wizard spell list has Elemental Body on it, which could be used for the transformation.
It's a tough call, but she was a pretty decent fighter which leads me to lean towards full divine caster with the HD and BaB to back it up.
Really, Terra's power requires an equivalent to transformation, but geared more toward an increase in magical power.
Really, Terra's power requires an equivalent to transformation, but geared more toward an increase in magical power.
I have read that statement over an over and I still don't know how to read it...
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I don't really know Terra, but I'm guessing Lathiira is saying she would deserve a full transformation-style power, but one that makes her magic more powerful, not her physical capabilities, which is generally the most/only change that Pathfinder transformations allow. Edit: To that end, Mindchemist alchemist is a start, perhaps? Like I said, I don't know much about Terra, but that's the only thing I can think of for boosting magic (indirectly via scores, but still).
I like the lists for FF 7 and 10 quite a lot :) And I'm gonna need to think on a few others.
Terra was a half esper character. She could transform for a limited time that boosted all of her attack and def stats. She is one of the only characters that could learn magic without first equipping a magicite (fossilized esper essence). She was a decent fighter in human form, and could wear most all weapons and armors as well as being 2 or 3 best magic user in the game.
Thanks for clearing that up for me... My brain just seemed to be out of gear.
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Terra's transformation is a racial ability she gets for being a half-eidolon... class-wise she's probably a sorcerer/fighter eldritch knight (maybe a magus but her abilities are more inherent than learned).
Celes is more like a magus I guess since she does magic with a sword specifically (runic) and that, while she was altered to have magic potential, it was later in life and she had to learn to use it.
Gau is probably a Feral Child/Barbarian.
Umaro is a Yeti with Barbarian levels probably, and/or mog's monstrous companion or cohort.
Mog is some kind of spear-weilding bard/illusionist/summoner.
Because of their versatility, a lot of final fantasy characters are probably best conceived of as gestalt builds.
What are some gestalt examples you have in mind?
Really, Terra's power requires an equivalent to transformation, but geared more toward an increase in magical power.I have read that statement over an over and I still don't know how to read it...
Darkwolf has it right. My memory is that her esper transformation didn't upgrade her attack/defense much, but her magic went up substantially. Been a long time though since I played FF6 :) And Celes (my fave) was the only other character who could learn magic w/o a magicite shard.
For Final Fantasy VI (which you accidentally identified as V)
I think Terra would actually be closer to Magus, or perhaps Sorcerer with some Eldritch Knight or such (though that's probably Dissidia altering my opinion of her slightly).
Sorcerer with exotic bloodline and access to esper transformation spell (which actually would probably either monstrous physique or not-yet existing chain of fey semblance polymorphy spells.
Edgar I don't really see as a Paladin, he's a bit too lecherous for that...perhaps Fighter or Ranger.
Edgar screamed to me of archaeologist Bard.
Sabin would probably be Qinggong Monk (he definitely has some more magical abilities).
Shadow would definitely be Ninja.
Gau, I would put as either Barbarian, or perhaps Infiltrator Ranger.
I'd say he's barbarian with feat/archetype granting access to multiple totems (but only one totem chain active at any one time).
Celes would be either a magus or fighter/wizard/eldritch knight.
Cyan would be (you won't guess) samurai.
Kefka would have the Antagonize feat.
But, but, what about Balthier?
Balthier is a gunslinger 5/ bard X... And a bad ass...
FFX brought some arcane firepower though.
Lulu: evocationist wizard
Yuna: summoner (obviously)
Kimari: some sort of gished up transmutationist caster. He had a bunch of bad guy special abilities and SLAs
Tidus: a bard or magus
Riku: rogue with some magic of her own, maybe some wiz/ sorc dips
Auron: inquisitor for sure
Wakka: thrown weapon fighter type
For Yuna I'd go with Cleric (or maybe Oracle) instead of Summoner, as she was the party's "White Mage" or healer. The Summoning aspects could be easily handled by Summon Monster and Planar Ally Spells.
I could see Vincent as a Sorceror of some kind who took EWP for firearms since he really only does like a single shot each time, or Spellslinger Wizard if you want more from your gun. Plenty of spells and bloodlines to fit him.
Why hasn't anyone tried to roll up the characters from FFV? :P
dot...just because I loved FF7 as a kid. Literally spend 100s of hours on that game