Adjusting Armor Sizes Magically?


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Is there any way to make it so that when you've got a small or large PC in the group, a set of armor won from an NPC boss, can fit them? I've got a PC ogre and PC gnome, and both are fighter types. However, the truly epic armor worn by bosses are all medium size. It'd be nice if they could wear it instead of just having it always sold.

I used adventures paths so I'm not going to re-write it so that the end book of Crimson Throne Book 2 turns out to be a halfling. That's just not going to happen.

If not, then that's fine. I just need to know.


Dude, if you want to run it that way, then do it. I would. That is the beauty of a system that you can customize. If the way it's written doesn't work for your table, then change it to something that does.

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Nepherti wrote:
Dude, if you want to run it that way, then do it. I would. That is the beauty of a system that you can customize. If the way it's written doesn't work for your table, then change it to something that does.

Well, I'm also asking for those of us who are PFS players. You definitely can't customize that stuff. I know the gnome barbarian and halfling rogue feel left out the most in the our usual games.


For one campaign our dm threw a large construct who wielded a greatsword at us. My character specialized in greatswords so when we beat it he allowed me to use my craft skill to work it down to a workable size for me. This might be an option if you have down time and you could always have them bring it to a Smith if they don't have craft.

Also I thought they're was some rule already available for magic items to resize themselves. If it does not already apply to magic arms and armor, consider adapting it.


Yeah, I swear I remembered reading that magic armors re-size within one step each way... unless that was 3.5

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Sah wrote:

For one campaign our dm threw a large construct who wielded a greatsword at us. My character specialized in greatswords so when we beat it he allowed me to use my craft skill to work it down to a workable size for me. This might be an option if you have down time and you could always have them bring it to a Smith if they don't have craft.

Also I thought they're was some rule already available for magic items to resize themselves. If it does not already apply to magic arms and armor, consider adapting it.

Magic items, yes. Magic arms and armor, no. Those only resize if you're already wielding it when you go in size.


I usually, especially when it comes to APs, play with the house rule that magic armor always resizes to fit the person wearing it, so as not to just kinda randomly screw over someone who decides to play a gnome instead of an elf for a change of pace by arbitrarily depriving them of gear they'd otherwise be able to use.


This sounds like a job for a crafting mage!


kevin_video wrote:


I know the gnome barbarian and halfling rogue feel left out the most in the our usual games.

Gnome barbarian?! What's he do, toss lethal puns at his opponents?

(just had to make the joke)


kevin_video wrote:

Is there any way to make it so that when you've got a small or large PC in the group, a set of armor won from an NPC boss, can fit them? I've got a PC ogre and PC gnome, and both are fighter types. However, the truly epic armor worn by bosses are all medium size. It'd be nice if they could wear it instead of just having it always sold.

I used adventures paths so I'm not going to re-write it so that the end book of Crimson Throne Book 2 turns out to be a halfling. That's just not going to happen.

If not, then that's fine. I just need to know.

Not positive if this would work but dispell magic on the armor to suppress the magic for a few rounds and then use polymorph any object to resize it?

Honestly I think the 'magic items are not affected by this spell' line will make the idea moot but you can always ask you GM. Seems to me there should be some way to resize armor.

Of course there is always the mundane way of taking it to an armorer and having it resized. The rule is listed under the description of full plate if my memory serves me.

Quote:
Each suit of full plate must be individually fitted to its owner by a master armorsmith, although a captured suit can be resized to fit a new owner at a cost of 200 to 800 (2d4 × 100) gold pieces.

So the concept is already there for resizing armor.


Yeah, full plate can be resized, but one problem: The resale value renders this pointless. Say you find a masterwork full plate set. That puts it at 1650gp. Most DM's would have the rule of thumb that you get money for used goods at half the listed price. That means the suit is worth all of 825gp. Now, subtract the resizing fee of 200-800gp.

You are better off just buying a brand new suit of masterwork full plate.


Piccolo wrote:
You are better off just buying a brand new suit of masterwork full plate.

Very possibly yes, assuming you have the time in game. But then the question was about resizing MAGIC armor. Armor is armor and while getting a new set of full plate may take some time (since it MUST be fitted to the PC buying it so no off the shelf) doing the same for a new set of magic armor is even WAY more time intensive.

Having an existing suit of magic armor resized would probably be far more time and cost effective was my point. The cost for resizing full plate could be used for a guideline and establishes that armor resizing is a possibily within the rules.

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