I wonder why pro gun people are so sure man made global warming is not true?
Strange you know the same people who explain how guns work, how the Earth rotates around the Sun and the moon rotates around the Earth, come up with plastics, genetic engineering and everything that made this modern world the way it is and without them we would be hunter gatherers dieing at 35 from disease or wounds, yet when they tell us something uncomfortable or unpleasant a lot of people want to bury their heads in the sand.
Yes global warming occours naturally but never ever in all of the natural records this fast.
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Is global warming (wasn't the current terminology "climate change"?) a bad thing?
I would never claim to be very knowledgable about climate change, and I subscribe to the majority view of science on it, but Ive often wondered if the shift in global climate is actually shifting back to it's "normal" tempeture. As in, its not so much getting warmer, so much as its returning to normal.
Not that it matters, itd still be bad for humanity, but Ive been kinda curious about that.
It is not a coincidence that the people in this thread opposing gun control are the same people who are pushing the idea that the current global warming problem is not due to anthropogenic causes. These are both core American conservative beliefs. They tend to come as a package, along with an assortment of other closely-held beliefs. They are held and defended for a shared set of reasons.
The trouble with the theory that it's not our fault, it's just what would be happening anyway, is that the behavior actually tracks the theory pretty well. We (well the generic we, I don't get the details) understand what more carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gasses should do in the atmosphere. We can measure the increase in those gases. We can measure the increases in temperature. This being a large and complex system that we can't run multiple experiments with control variables on, there's always the possibility that we're missing something, but the idea that climate is doing basically what we predict it to, but for completely different reasons is pretty far fetched.Is global warming (wasn't the current terminology "climate change"?) a bad thing?I would never claim to be very knowledgable about climate change, and I subscribe to the majority view of science on it, but Ive often wondered if the shift in global climate is actually shifting back to it's "normal" tempeture. As in, its not so much getting warmer, so much as its returning to normal.
Not that it matters, itd still be bad for humanity, but Ive been kinda curious about that.
Oh dont get me wrong, Im firmly in the "humanity is accelerating it" camp. And like I said, even if it is returning back to normal, its still catastrophic. But, IIRC, the Earth was once much much warmer. Just a bit of minutae I was wondering about, and nothing more.
Maybe if people stopped burning all those 4e books, it would help save the planet.
Sorry. }:-)
Maybe if people stopped burning all those 4e books, it would help save the planet.
Sorry. }:-)
Oh you.
Well there is certainly a lot of politics going on with the environmental issues. I mean, people point to solar panels as one tool to use, but then when China tries to import less expensive solar panels (lower price = higher demand, I think I learned that in a college class), suddenly the people that say they care about the environment oppose them because it hurts the jobs base of their other group of supporters.
Oh man. This is the best thread.
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Libtards? Yawn.
*Files Mead into "not to be taken seriously" and goes back to sleep.*
Just to clarify something could double the acceleration of a situation, and this would increase the velocity by 4x as much (due to how acceleration and velocity are related to each other).
Please return to your "normal" discussion.
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Yeah, I gotta side with thejeff on this one. No matter where one lands on how much humanity causes climate change, its undeniable that humanity is about the only thing that can do anything at all about it. 100 years is a LOT larger of a timeframe to build seawalls, come up with carbon reducing tech, or build a giant moon laser (why not?) than 30 years.