Godless healing question


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"Prerequisites: Cannot have a patron deity.

Benefit: Once per day when you have half your total hit points or fewer, you may heal yourself of an amount of damage equal to 1d8 plus your total Hit Dice as a move action. This is a supernatural ability.

Special: You can take this feat more than once. Each time you do, you may heal yourself one additional time per day."

Does it heal an equal amount of nonlethal as well?


Good question. Is it magical healing? Since the feat says that it is a supernatural ability I would say that yes it is, and thus heals and equal amount of non-lethal.

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'Healing Nonlethal Damage' (core book page 192) states that, '... When a spell or ability cures hit point damage, it also removes an equal amount of nonlethal damage.'

The Feat isn't a spell, but I'd suggest it falls under the far-spread umbrella of 'ability', so yes, it cures an equal amount of non-lethal damage (just like everything else that heals you of hit point damage).

Note that taking non-lethal damage can't drop your Hit Points low enough to trigger the Feat by itself though, since non-lethal damage is counted up, not deducted from your Hit Point total. But if you happen to have taken some non-lethal damage along with at least half your Hit Points in normal (lethal) damage, then yes, the ability heals both at the same time.


yeah, I use ablative barrier constantly. so I was wondering how useful this would be. very, it turns out.

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Sloppycrane wrote:

"Prerequisites: Cannot have a patron deity.

Benefit: Once per day when you have half your total hit points or fewer, you may heal yourself of an amount of damage equal to 1d8 plus your total Hit Dice as a move action. This is a supernatural ability.

Special: You can take this feat more than once. Each time you do, you may heal yourself one additional time per day."

Does it heal an equal amount of nonlethal as well?

I am in the process of building a character for the Pure Legion Enforcer Prestige class and wanted to make sure that I understood the Godless Healing Feat Correctly.

"1d8 plus your total Hit Dice" when Character hit points are below 1/2 normal

So if I am a 5th Level Fighter that means I could then roll
= 1d8 + 5d10 = for my total heal roll, correct?


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1d8+5, you have 5 total hit die, if you were a minotaur with 5 fighter levels you would heal 1d8+11(5 class hit die+6 racial hit die=11 total hit die).


Yeah, Pathfinder doesn't really have the concept of "rolling your hit dice", except at levelup.
You just add your number of hit dice as a flat modifier.

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Rajnish Umbra, Shadow Caller wrote:

Yeah, Pathfinder doesn't really have the concept of "rolling your hit dice", except at levelup.

You just add your number of hit dice as a flat modifier.

ONLY 1d8+11 ??

How are you supposed to live through a game with that??


ThorJames wrote:
Rajnish Umbra, Shadow Caller wrote:

Yeah, Pathfinder doesn't really have the concept of "rolling your hit dice", except at levelup.

You just add your number of hit dice as a flat modifier.

ONLY 1d8+11 ??

How are you supposed to live through a game with that??

You don't its a terrible feat.


ThorJames wrote:
Rajnish Umbra, Shadow Caller wrote:

Yeah, Pathfinder doesn't really have the concept of "rolling your hit dice", except at levelup.

You just add your number of hit dice as a flat modifier.

ONLY 1d8+11 ??

How are you supposed to live through a game with that??

Don't get hit.

But joking aside, that's basically a powerful daily Potion of Healing for the first of 1 feat...which isn't bad a low to mid-kevel. At higher level, well hopefully, it's enough to buy you a bit more time for the healer to take care of the damage or for you/someone to get the more powerful healing supply (potion or wand) to save your bacon.


just buy an Aegis of Recovery $1500 and avoid the feat cost. It's cheaper and more effective. Stack a couple of Talismans on top for extra protection.

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For a Pure Legion Enforcer Prestige Class what is the best way to heal WITHOUT the use of divine healing? Combat & Damage are a constant in PFS gameplay. Really glad that I have not starting building this character yet. This is pretty important to figure out how long this prestige class could live in the game..


Use wands of Cure light made by bards or witches.


This approach could do ya


Infernal healing would also work.

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WagnerSika wrote:
Use wands of Cure light made by bards or witches.

My gaming group let me know that when a character purchases healing potions or wands in PFS - it is not known if either are created by divine healers or not, so mechanically it doesn't matter. But theoretically, wands or potions made by bards or witches is the correct answer.

Very interesting to find out all the ways that healing can be done without the divine or deities.


Alchemy is probably the preferred source of healing items for an atheist. Bards can heal but have limited number of spells, and most probably do not have item creation feats. Witches can heal, but are probably looked on with great suspicion. They are technically arcane casters, but the whole patron thing is likely to cause doubt.

Since alchemists get healing spells and all of them have the brew potion feat it makes since they are the major source of healing for atheists.

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