Guys, I know you're worried about Romney and I can understand why. But do you think this is just a minor, unimportant issue? Really? This does not scare the **** out of you?
“Today is October 10th, 2012 and I am ready to go to prison.”
Are you now or have you been a member of the communist party?
Are you now or have you been a member of the communist party?
Luckily for me I'm not affiliated to or support any parties...I swear!
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Are you now or have you been a member of the communist party?Luckily for me I'm not affiliated to or support any parties...I swear!
INITIATING LIE-DETECTION PROTOCOLS.
INITIATING LIE-DETECTION PROTOCOLS.Are you now or have you been a member of the communist party?Luckily for me I'm not affiliated to or support any parties...I swear!
Thoughtcrime does not entail death...thoughtcrime IS death.
INITIATING LIE-DETECTION PROTOCOLS.Are you now or have you been a member of the communist party?Luckily for me I'm not affiliated to or support any parties...I swear!
Poo flingers READY!!!
AIM!!!
Are you now or have you been a member of the communist party?
The Communist Party are a bunch of stooges of the plutocracy!
I'm guessing the Obama apologists are going to remain silent on this, as always. Here's to hoping someone shows up, thus proving me wrong, and explains how is this acceptable.
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Fat chance!
Why is this trolling? It's not like this subject has been beaten to death, and here I am trying to pick up fights when everyone already knows where everyone stands on it. This is no edition wars.
It is just that in the political discussions people are having, whenever this comes up, people go mute on the subject. I'd like to know if there is any defense of this stuff, or this is just a non-issue, if people are scared to talk about it or whatever. This is something that appears really serious to me, and here comes the unicorn and calls me a troll for that. Way to go.
It's alright, Citizen Cardoso, the unicorn only exists to spread snark.
Also, when you start spin-off threads, don't expect everyone stumbling over your new thread to know that there is a back story of shills--uh, I mean, supporters--of the Democrats chewing you out.
Also, trolls are sexy.
There's no defense for stupid. No cure either, which is the truly tragic part.
Edit: Also, unicorns have a horn.
Yeah, it's a faerie horse, easily confused...cut me some slack here, please.
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Oh wait, good news. Looking at the Paizo user license, which we all read and agreed to upon becomming members of the community, it turns out that:
"The federal government and 49 of 50 state governments (Rhode Island being the one hold out, and who cares about that glorified county turned into a state) have designated the Paizo messageboards as the principal fora for discussing and resolving issues relating to the detainment of U.S. citizens (or vague strings of "facts" arranged in such a way as to sound like a detainment of a U.S. citizen) and assigning blame therefor. Any determination by the Paizo messageboards shall be binding upon the federal government and 49 out of 50 state governments (and, for the avoidance of doubt, screw you Rhode Island)."
Huh. Looks like this is the right place to have a discussion of this important issue.
Hmmm...well people ARE discussing politics in this forum and I haven't seen you prancing around with your purple hooves enlightening people on how unreasonable discussing it here is.
Of course this IS the off-topic discussion part of the forum so this does not sound so absurd if you look from this strikingly innovative perspective....
Just let it go, Thiago.
I like your thread.
I don't agree with this. I still don't think getting rid of government will end persucution like this it will still happen. Heck try getting a job for someone who is too scared to talk on the telephone and there are not any laws I know of forcing job canidates to be notified by telephone.
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It's a civil contempt of court charge for refusing to testify before a grand jury after being given immunity correct?
They should count themselve lucky, up here you don't get the immunity :P
Seriously though, what is going on here? Hipsters aren't that great at blogging about the legal system in an informative way. What does the grand jury system have to do with Obama's time as el presidenté?
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It's a civil contempt of court charge for refusing to testify before a grand jury after being given immunity correct?
They should count themselve lucky, up here you don't get the immunity :P
Seriously though, what is going on here? Hipsters aren't that great at blogging about the legal system in an informative way.
You have to read carefully, but it's pretty clear that Obama punched her in the kidneys for being an anarchist. Then the CIA/UN came roaring into the area in black helicopters and started arresting people at random and accusing them of treason, bootlegging, and sasquatch-harassment. A "trial" was convened at the super underwater laboratory of Joe "Secretly a Clone of Hitler" Biden. Mitt "Justice is my Middle Name" Romney broke into the underwater laboratory and saved her, but was subsequently captured and replaced with a malfunctioning robot. Mitt escaped immediately prior to the debate, while at the same time, Barack Hussein "Secretly a Scary Commie Muslim" Obama left his own malfunctioning robot to participate in the debate while he raped stray dogs and forced birth control pills down the throats of nuns.
That's what I took away, but I took three years of French and only one year of Wingbattery in high school, and I could be mistranslating.
I don't think it's the grand jury system, Comrade Hawkshaw, it's the state repression, surveillance and harassment of leftist activists.
I know that whenever the FBI goes looking for black clothes and books by Bakunin, my spider sense starts tingling.
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I didn't see anything about immunity. It sounds more like being subpoena'd for a grand jury and refusing to testify. If it really is a fishing expedition just looking for other anarchist who might have been involved or might know something, then they can't really take the fifth and this is a principle, if illegal, stand. OTOH, the fishing is usually not legal anyway. On the gripping hand, I haven't read anything about this beyond that obviously biased post, so the real story could be entirely different.It's a civil contempt of court charge for refusing to testify before a grand jury after being given immunity correct?
They should count themselve lucky, up here you don't get the immunity :P
Seriously though, what is going on here? Hipsters aren't that great at blogging about the legal system in an informative way. What does the grand jury system have to do with Obama's time as el presidenté?
I thought that at a grand jury you can plead the fifth and not get contempt of court. However, once you have been promised immunity there is no risk of self-incrimination, so the fifth isn't available and so refusing to answer is no longer an option.
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Mine too, but it fades when I see that someone is willing to go to prison rather than testify against someone. If her testimony weren't condemning, then she'd be happy to exonerate the people she was being asked to testify against.
I'm not a big fan of state compelled speech in semi secret criminal proceedings with limited judical oversight.
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Depends on what they're asking. If, for example, they're not asking questions that could exonerate people, but just want the names of all the people she knows in anarchist circles, then not answering is a principled act. Think the McCarthy hearings.This is contempt of court. You don't have the right to refuse to testify when subpoenaed. If you refuse to testify (and you're not one of several exempt cases, such as refusing to incriminate yourself, revealing privileged information, etc.), then that's contempt of court. This doesn't have anything to do with President Obama, and as she's said, she's choosing prison in lieu of testimony.
I know that whenever the FBI goes looking for black clothes and books by Bakunin, my spider sense starts tingling.Mine too, but it fades when I see that someone is willing to go to prison rather than testify against someone. If her testimony weren't condemning, then she'd be happy to exonerate the people she was being asked to testify against.
Yeah there is a big difference between asking "Did you see X toss a molotov cocktail at the hockey riot" and "have you ever seen X with a copy of Atlas Shrugged" or "who do you see at the hipster organo/vegan/wheatfree anarchist lounge/whole foods on a regular basis".
Yeah there is a big difference between asking "Did you see X toss a molotov cocktail at the hockey riot" and "have you ever seen X with a copy of Atlas Shrugged" or "who do you see at the hipster organo/vegan/wheatfree anarchist lounge/whole foods on a regular basis".Depends on what they're asking. If, for example, they're not asking questions that could exonerate people, but just want the names of all the people she knows in anarchist circles, then not answering is a principled act. Think the McCarthy hearings.This is contempt of court. You don't have the right to refuse to testify when subpoenaed. If you refuse to testify (and you're not one of several exempt cases, such as refusing to incriminate yourself, revealing privileged information, etc.), then that's contempt of court. This doesn't have anything to do with President Obama, and as she's said, she's choosing prison in lieu of testimony.
I know that whenever the FBI goes looking for black clothes and books by Bakunin, my spider sense starts tingling.Mine too, but it fades when I see that someone is willing to go to prison rather than testify against someone. If her testimony weren't condemning, then she'd be happy to exonerate the people she was being asked to testify against.
Beware of pissing off vegans. They've got psionic powers.
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Us it time for us smurfs yet?
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Beware of pissing off vegans. They've got psionic powers.Yeah there is a big difference between asking "Did you see X toss a molotov cocktail at the hockey riot" and "have you ever seen X with a copy of Atlas Shrugged" or "who do you see at the hipster organo/vegan/wheatfree anarchist lounge/whole foods on a regular basis".Depends on what they're asking. If, for example, they're not asking questions that could exonerate people, but just want the names of all the people she knows in anarchist circles, then not answering is a principled act. Think the McCarthy hearings.This is contempt of court. You don't have the right to refuse to testify when subpoenaed. If you refuse to testify (and you're not one of several exempt cases, such as refusing to incriminate yourself, revealing privileged information, etc.), then that's contempt of court. This doesn't have anything to do with President Obama, and as she's said, she's choosing prison in lieu of testimony.
I know that whenever the FBI goes looking for black clothes and books by Bakunin, my spider sense starts tingling.Mine too, but it fades when I see that someone is willing to go to prison rather than testify against someone. If her testimony weren't condemning, then she'd be happy to exonerate the people she was being asked to testify against.
I'll take that risk, if we mundanes don't stop them now, they'll eventually form the Psi Corps and try to take over the Earth Alliance.
It's a civil contempt of court charge for refusing to testify before a grand jury after being given immunity correct?
They should count themselve lucky, up here you don't get the immunity :P
Seriously though, what is going on here? Hipsters aren't that great at blogging about the legal system in an informative way.
You have to read carefully, but it's pretty clear that Obama punched her in the kidneys for being an anarchist. Then the CIA/UN came roaring into the area in black helicopters and started arresting people at random and accusing them of treason, bootlegging, and sasquatch-harassment. A "trial" was convened at the super underwater laboratory of Joe "Secretly a Clone of Hitler" Biden. Mitt "Justice is my Middle Name" Romney broke into the underwater laboratory and saved her, but was subsequently captured and replaced with a malfunctioning robot. Mitt escaped immediately prior to the debate, while at the same time, Barack Hussein "Secretly a Scary Commie Muslim" Obama left his own malfunctioning robot to participate in the debate while he raped stray dogs and forced birth control pills down the throats of nuns.
That's what I took away, but I took three years of French and only one year of Wingbattery in high school, and I could be mistranslating.
Never fear my purple hoofed fella, I'm here to explain to you what transpires in this discussion, as it appears you got yourself confused while running around, and has been unable to properly understand what is in debate! Our dear Comrade fella appears to be more on the spot, so that's a initial guideline for you. Do not meander!
What is in discussion here is how the extension of state powers to confront "terror" have been influencing people's lives. An extension which was initiated with Bush and has continued under Obama. The coordination of NYPD with the FBI in order to choke the OWS movement for instance <--- ; the war on whistleblowers; the treatment of Bradley Manning; the persecution of activists and filmmakers like Laura Poitras.
No one argues, friendly equine, that Romney would do better if left unchecked. Because it is probably not true. However, the lack of opposition in this respect has made Obama one of the most successful presidents in implementing the tools necessary for this kind of stuff to happen. This lack of opposition is a fault of democrats, which seem to have abandoned their stances on this.
Just check the ACLU to see the awesomeness that Obama's US is for people who seriously oppose his policies!
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One of the guys from video 4 goes on star in Lillehammer which is also about an informant. The guy in Springsteen's band.
Man, I can do this all night.
Well this thread is going smashingly.
Well this thread is going smashingly.
I like it so far.