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I liked the finale pretty much. I even thought that the rallying the city to produce enough hope and positive emotions to counter Darhk wasn't horrible, even though that trope is often overdone. It was set up as the way to counter his magic earlier, and just needed to be scaled up to deal with the vast increase in power Darhk had.
I was also pretty happy that things ended on a stable note. No horribleness at the last minute, no big twist setting things up for next season, just a nice ending and reward for characters who had been through a pretty horrible year. While I think we'll see several of them again, I think it will also be good to shrink the team down again to allow for new characters to develop without becoming too crowded.
Next year is the last of the flashback period of Oliver's life. I wonder what they'll do to replace that in S6.
I guess getting flashbacks from the first season.
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hopefully none...I don't think the flashbacks have been that interesting since season 2. There mostly something I just sit through in wait for the present day stuff.
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I was definitely more satisfied with the Arrow ending than the Flash ending, though once again we had a laughable instance of a crowd of ordinary citizens going up en mass against a horde of armed henchmen and not getting completely slaughtered.
I wish this season's flashbacks took place in Russia. Other than the link with the duplicate idols (which wasn't really necessary) there wasn't much point to them this season. And now, somehow, Ollie has to leave the island to go to Russia and then end up back on the island again in order to be rescued in time for the pilot episode.
Were they duplicate idols? I thought Darhk's idol was the same one (presumably stolen from ARGUS).
I think it's easy to explain him back on the island...at the end of whatever he does in Russia, he contacts Amanda Waller and says he'll take her up on her previous offer, gets dropped on the island and is arranged to be "rescued" at the time of his choosing.
All I know is I'm glad they didn't nuke the Star City.
hopefully none...I don't think the flashbacks have been that interesting since season 2. There mostly something I just sit through in wait for the present day stuff.
The flashbacks are why I don't watch Arrow that much. If they MUST have them, make it one flashback episode and keep up with the main story.
If they must reflect the current story-line, set the flashback episode in at a plot-convenient point, then get on with it. Fire & forget, writers, fire & forget.
Flashbacks only work for when things jump around too much.
Arrow hasn't quite done that this season.
I liked the finale pretty much. I even thought that the rallying the city to produce enough hope and positive emotions to counter Darhk wasn't horrible, even though that trope is often overdone. It was set up as the way to counter his magic earlier, and just needed to be scaled up to deal with the vast increase in power Darhk had.
I thought it kind of a neat twist that it was NOT Green Arrow that rallied all the Rabble, but Oliver Queen. kind of fit with the mayor race through the season... but it's still usual for the HERO to be the rallying force.
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I was definitely more satisfied with the Arrow ending than the Flash ending, though once again we had a laughable instance of a crowd of ordinary citizens going up en mass against a horde of armed henchmen and not getting completely slaughtered.
I wish this season's flashbacks took place in Russia. Other than the link with the duplicate idols (which wasn't really necessary) there wasn't much point to them this season. And now, somehow, Ollie has to leave the island to go to Russia and then end up back on the island again in order to be rescued in time for the pilot episode.
Were they duplicate idols? I thought Darhk's idol was the same one (presumably stolen from ARGUS).
I think it's easy to explain him back on the island...at the end of whatever he does in Russia, he contacts Amanda Waller and says he'll take her up on her previous offer, gets dropped on the island and is arranged to be "rescued" at the time of his choosing.
I was under the impression (though I could be wrong) that Darhk had been using the idol for years. He was originally a contemporary of Ra's al Ghul when they were both regular members of the League of Assassins. He didn't have access to the Lazarus Pit (unless there's more than one on the Arrowverse Earth, but so far it's been referred to in the singular) so I assumed he was using magic to maintain his immortality.
As for having Waller intentionally drop Ollie back on the island again to be "rescued", I suppose that could work, though it seems a little weird and unnecessarily roundabout.
Well generally there are other lazarus pits. One was underneath Gotham, that kinda explains all the crazy.
Did anyone else think they were setting up Felicity to be some kind of white magic prodigy? They seemed to really be playing up how she was the hopeful one, and it seemed like a massive Chekhov's Gun to me.
That would be an interesting route for next season. Ollie doesn't seem super comfortable with using magic, but he may decide "In case there's another magical threat, let's train you to defend yourself against it so you don't get kidnapped".
Would give her something to do in the field on rare occasions without turning her into another fighter. She acts as support (same as she does normally), except more directly.
I wouldn't expect much magic next season. I think the actor has hinted that the big bad of next season isn't "powered".
I wonder how the season finale of Flash will influence the next season of Arrow...
I'm still wondering who is the real bad guy for this season... I mean we've had Ra Al'Ghul, Damien Darkh...not many left in my mind.
I wonder how the season finale of Flash will influence the next season of Arrow...
I don't know about Arrow, but I've heard that Captain Cold will be part of the "Legion of Doom" that is the big bad for S2 of Legends of Tomorrow. The only way I see that happening is if it's a result of Barry's timeline screwing.
Hama,
Are you surprised?
I thought that was Prometheus in the arrow and hood outfit...
Or am I thinking of someone else, Hama?
Bjorn,
Because of King Shark or just in general?
Ah. I see that now. I was assuming though you were making reference to King Shark.
I know that now Hama! I just meant...before.
So, thoughts on today's episode of Arrow?
Is it just me or does Ollie some times seem to do the stupid more than Barry at times?
Anyone? Bueller?
Set,
Something was off, no question.
Feral,
I dunno. I keep waiting for Artemis to spring up as the next side kick for Oliver since he's not had one since Speedy left.
But I will agree this group competency in a fight is...semi-questionable. I'm hoping that Curtis decides to work on his T-Spheres to help in a fight. So far he's pretty much not a good combatant.
I really, really like Church as this season's primary (so far) antagonist. His chat with WildDog in the last couple minutes of the episode were excellent and I hope they give the guy a lot more screen time.
Dal,
He has the advantage of the fact he's smarter than he looks. I still think Prometheus will kill him though.
Yeah Wild Dog needs some one to sit his ass down and make him understand.
I hope that's Diggle but it seems unlikely.
Church, meanwhile, should continue. I hope. Maybe.
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Sadly I was proven right. Prometheus doesn't like competition.
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Again, why is Curtis on this team? He's useless. He couldn't bring down one of Church's goons and had to be bailed out again.
I'm hoping he takes a hint and uses his big ol' brain to whip up something to equalize things.
T-spheres (his comic book counterparts cool invention, basically the flying laser-shooting sphere thingies that Ben Kenobi was using to train Luke on the Falcon)) seem a bit over-the-top, for the tech levels shown on the show, but he could design some non-flying versions that he plants on walls or tosses the ground, that release gas or electric shocks or flash-bang distractions when triggered (either by him remotely, or via motion-detector if he sets one to 'guard' a hallway or slow pursuit or something).
At the moment, he's got no useful tech, and he can't fight his way out of a wet paper bag, so seeing him in combat is just disappointing. I'm hoping they go with the tech solution, rather than have him just become an awesome hand-to-hand fighter over time, because this show's already got plenty of those, and I'm more interested in seeing something new.
(Like Ragman. Good golly, he's not the *last* person I would have expected to see, because that's Ambush Bug, but he's darn close, and yet I'm loving to see someone with actual super-powers on the show, in more than a 'special guest-starring Flash/Constantine/Vixen' role.)
Yeah Ragman makes sense to be on this team. Curtis needs to start upping his tech game cause fighting hand to hand...not his strong suit.
Feral,
I don't think they SWORE it off, so much as not let it be as big a factor.
Also I still think Artemis might show us something. At least...I keep hoping. But I do agree that Curtis has become dead weight. No real read on Wild Dog yet...
Ragman is awesome...my favorite part of this season, and really the only legitimate solid recruit that Oliver has right now.
Hoping Mr. Terrific does take the tech route. THAT is where his strength lies, not in street fighting.