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If that other game can have a DM ( Dungeon Master ) and every other rpg can have GM ( Game Master ) why can't we have PM ( Pathfinder Master )?


Familiarity?
also, PM already means Private Message.

Do we really need to change it? I don't have a problem calling the game master "GM" or "DM."

Although, I kind of moved past that and actually know the names of my game masters now... Most of them anyways.

Scarab Sages

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Because the plural for PM would be PMS.

Silver Crusade

Marthian wrote:

Familiarity?

also, PM already means Private Message.

Do we really need to change it? I don't have a problem calling the game master "GM" or "DM."

Although, I kind of moved past that and actually know the names of my game masters now... Most of them anyways.

You can say the same thing for GM. That stands for General Motors, but I see your point on PM.

Silver Crusade

Davor wrote:
Because the plural for PM would be PMS.

Lol...


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I always say DM because i know it secretly stands for dumb mass.

Grand Lodge

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And PM also stands for project manager, and the last thing I want is a work reference when gaming.

Shadow Lodge

In England it stands for Prime Minister.

Scarab Sages

Post Mortem.

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If Pathfinder needed a new term for the GM (I don't think it does), then I think it should be Venture Captain.


1d8+1 wrote:
If that other game can have a DM ( Dungeon Master ) and every other rpg can have GM ( Game Master ) why can't we have PM ( Pathfinder Master )?

Still waiting for Wizards of the Co$t police to barge into our game and fine me for calling our Pathfinder DM a "DeeEmm".


Because any number of GameMaster(y) products are already in print.


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You can call it what ever you like, use the flavor of the month term of your choice. But I am a Dungeon Master.

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I'd also wager to say that since the core rules are based off the 3.x SRD, where the person who has to tell the story, play the NPCs, and arbitrate the rules, is referred to as GameMaster.

It's also a common phrase that everyone understands.

Me I always thought they should be called "slave to the players' joy" or "unholy overlord" depending on their relationship with their players and the game, but then that gets into individual preferences as well.

Grand Lodge

Or maybe the PF GM can be called a Runelord! *cue thunder and lightning* Mwahahahah!

EDIT: Though honestly, I think that Dave Gross hit the nail on the head with Venture-Captain, especially since it has the easy truncation of VC already!

Liberty's Edge

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Aeshuura wrote:

Or maybe the PF GM can be called a Runelord! *cue thunder and lightning* Mwahahahah!

EDIT: Though honestly, I think that Dave Gross hit the nail on the head with Venture-Captain, especially since it has the easy truncation of VC already!

I was avoiding that because referring to anything that reminds me of Viet Cong makes me "twitchy"...

Sovereign Court

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I prefer the title Lord High Executioner ... ;)


DM has worked since the game was invented, I'm not sure why there's any reason at all to change it.

A DM is a DM.

-S

Liberty's Edge

Selgard wrote:

DM has worked since the game was invented, I'm not sure why there's any reason at all to change it.

A DM is a DM.

-S

TSR, and thus WotC, trademarked it.


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When running my games I occasionally go by "God" or even just "Master". (Mostly just in jest of course.)

Of course my games tend to towards humorous over serious recently.


Selgard wrote:

DM has worked since the game was invented, I'm not sure why there's any reason at all to change it.

A DM is a DM.

I found I shifted to GM when we began to play games that had nothing to do with dungeons. Traveller, TW2k, Morrow Project, or Robotech for example just seemed to lend themselves to GM better. Then it ported back to the dungeon games. So for us, that is why it changed. :-)

Dark Archive

Actually, WotC trademarked Dungeon Master. There's no trademark on DM

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Wow, nostalgia moment! When I was working in alternate reality games (one of whose inventors once characterized them as "running a role-playing game in your kitchen for 2 million of your closest friends"), the showrunners were known as PMs, which stood for "puppet masters."

I leave it to you to judge how well that describes your friendly neighborhood GM. When it was applied to me, it always made me feel like I should be more evil than I was, so I'm glad that my game is run by a GM and not a PM. ;-)

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Because most games use GameMaster, so it's a common term. We don't need to create a new term for it, any more than a new game has to come up with a new name for "player character," "strength," or "dexterity" just to be different.

Dark Archive

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Besides everyone knows DM stands for Dark Mistress... sheesh people.

Sovereign Court

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YGN

as in, at my table, I'm Your God Now!


zylphryx wrote:
I prefer the title Lord High Executioner ... ;)

But only for a personage of noble rank and title.

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Well I'm the DM and I'll do as I DM well please!


I still like "referee."


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Cat herder.


I'm a Lumberjack and I'm OK.

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GM Lilith wrote:
Cat herder.

Depending on the group for which you run, that could be easier than GMing. ;)


While I don't like "Pathfinder Master", I could consider the appellation of "Chronicler".

A chronicler writes stories based on historical/mythical events and goes in the same sense as "storyteller" or "loremaster" which are used in other games, and the word is already part of Pathfinder's lore with the pathfinder chroniclers.

So a Pathfinder Chronicler could be 1) a distinguished member of an explorer's society or 2) the gamemaster of a Pathfinder RPG game.

Scarab Sages

The first time I saw Black Hawk Down, I kept having these mental hiccups because whenever the enemy fired a rocket propelled grenade at the US forces, the soldiers would shout "RPG! RPG!" which has a very different association my mind.

Scarab Sages

Laurefindel wrote:

While I don't like "Pathfinder Master", I could consider the appellation of "Chronicler".

A chronicler writes stories based on historical/mythical events and goes in the same sense as "storyteller" or "loremaster" which are used in other games, and the word is already part of Pathfinder's lore with the pathfinder chroniclers.

So a Pathfinder Chronicler could be 1) a distinguished member of an explorer's society or 2) the gamemaster of a Pathfinder RPG game.

If that were case, the abbreviation for the gamemaster would be "PC".


I like Pathmaster better than Pathfinder Master.

Then the head PM could be the Pathmaster General.


Wolfsnap wrote:
Laurefindel wrote:
(...) I could consider the appellation of "Pathfinder Chronicler" (...)
If that were case, the abbreviation for the gamemaster would be "PC".

hum... then everyone is playing! yeeee!


Cthulhudrew wrote:

I like Pathmaster better than Pathfinder Master.

Then the head PM could be the Pathmaster General.

But that reminds me of the pmg and could lead to confusion.

Shadow Lodge

I am your Gaming Operations Director.

The Exchange

Grand master, lord of hosts. Which is lucky really, given the number of my hosts that players regularly chew through in pursuit of phat loot and teh bomb xp.


GeraintElberion wrote:

YGN

as in, at my table, I'm Your God Now!

Naruto (manga/anime) had an "Epic" version of the "I Am Your God Now" said by someone who just blew up an (Immortal) Evil Cultist.

Cthulhudrew wrote:

I like Pathmaster better than Pathfinder Master.

Then the head PM could be the Pathmaster General.

PathMaster would be my choice too.

or

Teh Boss!


I like to think of myself as your Narrative Butler.


I prefer nefarious dark mistress of doom myself =}

Grand Lodge

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Because most games use GameMaster, so it's a common term. We don't need to create a new term for it, any more than a new game has to come up with a new name for "player character," "strength," or "dexterity" just to be different.

Good point. I am glad that Paizo is more concerned with the rules and product than tweaking things unnecessarily. I am really looking forward to the Mythic playtest and Ultimate Campaign! I wonder if we'll get a playtest of that... Hmm...


Lord Protector?


Antimony wrote:
zylphryx wrote:
I prefer the title Lord High Executioner ... ;)
But only for a personage of noble rank and title.

Does he have a little list?

Dark Archive

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Annika wrote:
I prefer nefarious dark mistress of doom myself =}

That's my official title sure or one of them, but my minions can call me DM. :)


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I'd be pretty ok being associated with the PM of Homestuck...


GMs are Genetically Modified.

Explains a few things, doesn't it? ;)

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