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Sczarni

In a game set in Golarion, a zombie epidemic sweeps the world. The is no cure, and a single bite means instant death. What would you build to survive?

3rd level
20 point buy
standard wealth by level.


A character in a different campaign. : P

Seriously, as far as straight defense goes how about a monk? Spellcasters can also have effective defenses, though not all that good ways of defending at low levels.


I'd be building Milla Jovovich :)

The Exchange

heavy armor travel domain cleric - maybe a dwarf...


A merman bard- So i could sing "Under the sea" while pointing at the land dwellers and laughing.


Cleric with the Sun Domain.

Liberty's Edge

If it is a disease 3rd lv paladin's divine health will make you immune

Scarab Sages

ForgottenRider wrote:
If it is a disease 3rd lv paladin's divine health will make you immune

This.

Regardless of other classes, I would start with 3 levels of paladin. Anything else, and the character is dead the first time the DM rolls a 20.


The way the OP said it, it made it sound like there was ultimately no way of being immune to it, Divine Health or otherwise. The words "no cure" stand out to me. Otherwise the entire party would be Paladins.

Though if I'm wrong, Paladin FTW.

Sczarni

I was thinkging cleric or ranger.

What other ideas do y'all have?


Darksmokepuncher wrote:

I was thinkging cleric or ranger.

What other ideas do y'all have?

Something that summons, for sure. Zombies are infinitely stupid, so throwing out some chomp fodder and never being in melee range is the way I'd go. Druid is a good choice.

Sczarni

That is a great idea...


A Halfling Druid could ride his dire bat mount, and summon.


Also, at 3rd level you could easily afford a wand of Hide from Undead (750gp). There's bound to be someone in the party who can use it. Otherwise, a potion only costs 50gp and it totally worth the investment.

The Exchange

I would build... a boat. And pack like I might not be comin' back.


For flavor I would go with Zombie hunter Inquisitor of the pr0tection domain.


Archer spec ranger I think would be the most viable in this sort of World War Z inspired setting. Good stealth, high mobility (they get the long duration longstrider spell), and plenty of long range firepower.


If you want your summoned critters to take hits for you, how about Summoner? Master Summoner with Superior Summoning for that matter. If it's a 1 hit kill anyway the effectiveness of your Eidolon isn't really relevant anymore. If he gets hit, well, see you tomorrow. This maximizes your class feature spell like ability to have other things get hit instead of you. There's a Summoner optimization guide that has a stealth Summoner build on it. I believe james maissen (sp?) did that build. Is really good at staying hidden.


What I'd build? A fortress. In a remote, very well defensible position. Mountaintop. Somewhere with a mountain stream and tillable land.

The few zombies that will show up there will be easily killed off way before they come into biting distance.


KaeYoss wrote:

What I'd build? A fortress. In a remote, very well defensible position. Mountaintop. Somewhere with a mountain stream and tillable land.

The few zombies that will show up there will be easily killed off way before they come into biting distance.

Not according to this article from a well-informed source.

: P


i would play Hero Yuuy, Take My Wing Zero Gundam, fly up into the sky, and obliterate every last Zombie on the planet at once with my Twin Buster Rifle. thus preventing it from spreading because the Zombies will be effectively disintigrated, fluids and all. a few humans may die, but they are merely a small price to pay in stopping a Zombie apoclypse.

Sczarni

While that is very interesting...it doesn't really contribute to the spirit of the thread.


On the original thread it sounds like the Zombie Plague is actually a 'viral' Curse rather than an actual disease.

I am also thinking Summoner, Although the idea of a non-evil Undead bloodline Sorcerer trying to force the Zombies against themselves appeals.

Lots of the Extra Channel Feat. Lots & lots...


Numeria has space age super technology. the OP said Golarion, and Numeria is part of Golarion. and yes, it's actually possible to find a Gundam in Numeria. so yes, i can have a Numerian named Heero Yuuy who pilots the Wing Zero Gundam in Golarion.

Sczarni

Shuriken Nekogami wrote:
Numeria has space age super technology. the OP said Golarion, and Numeria is part of Golarion. and yes, it's actually possible to find a Gundam in Numeria. so yes, i can have a Numerian named Heero Yuuy who pilots the Wing Zero Gundam in Golarion.

As the OP, all I can say is "........."


Goblin Ranger 3 (Archery style, First Favored Enemy: Undead)

S 10, D 20, C 14, I 12, W 14, Ch 5

(Point Buy: S 2pt = 12-2; D 10pt = 16+4, C 5pt = 14, I 2pt = 12, W 5pt = 14, Ch -4pt = 7-2)

Traits: Acolyte of Razmir (for Kn-Religion), Reactionary

Feats: Dodge, Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot

Mwk Composite Longbow (Str +0, Small)
+1 Mithral Shirt
Lots of arrows
Plus some potions

Initiative: +7
AC: 22 (+5 armor, +5 Dex, +1 size, +1 dodge)
Stealth +14 (w/ 3 ranks)

Shoot them at long range! Not a lot of damage w/out Str, but eventually the Favored Enemy bonus will pile up.

The Exchange

Human gunslinger (mysterious stranger) 2/ranger 1(for favored enemy undead)

Str: 9
Dex: 14
Con: 7 (con is rather unnecessary)
Int: 13
Wis: 10
Cha: 20 (human bonus)

Shoot them while coming up with witty one liners


Cleric with travel and sun domains. If you cant kill them run. Also always have a spare teleport ready as well as always having wind walk cast.

incorporating as much of this as possible.

Just saw the level thing. I still think travel and sun cleric is a good start.


TAKE WILD GUESS WHAT AM BUILD.

BARBARIAN GIVE HINT: AM NOT CASTY.


Human Ninja 2/Gunslinger (mysterious stranger, pistolero)1, take 5 (total) levels of gunslinger, then go back to being a ninja. Maybe take 2 levels of inquisitor eventually.


Do you have to start at level 1? If not I would make someone who can either plane shift or have some sort of constant flight :D
Basically stay where they can't reach you.


Sounds kind of like beating one's head against a wall. If there's no way to counteract the one bite from the infected, I give the entire population living outside of the desert, mountain peaks, flying fortress, underground vacuum and/or glacier about a season to die out.
I guess my main question(s) would be how long is this scenario/campaign expected to last, and is there some sort of goal other than "don't get bit"?


A sorcerer with the undead bloodline and maxed out bluff.

Imhotep. Imhote.. erm.. BRRAAAAaaaaiiIIIns


BigNorseWolf wrote:

A sorcerer with the undead bloodline and maxed out bluff.

Imhotep. Imhote.. erm.. BRRAAAAaaaaiiIIIns

Well done. You win the Internet.


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

The problem with a gunslinger in a PZA (Pathfinder Zombie Apocalypse) is that, unlike in a modern setting, powder and shot are going to be very hard to come by. You could easily run out in a single day and not be anywhere near a surviving supplier of ammo.

If it were me I'd go with a Cleaving Paladin armed with a reach weapon, like a Lucerne Hammer.

Liberty's Edge

Are warforged or similar living constructs an option?

I'm going to assume this zombie epidemic isn't constrained to humanoids so flying, swimming, burrowing, etc. are not going to guarantee safety. Afterall, a zombie wyvern can still reach a cloud castle and a zombie kraken can still shatter the dome over an underwater city. If they get organized, prepare for zombie rocs to carpet bomb your fortress with bludgeon-resistant zombie bombs and zombie purple worms to vomit squads of zombie goblins from their cavernous maws after undermining your castle.

You might have to come to terms with the idea that the safest place to hide from the zombie hordes is within the zombie hordes. Perhaps a bard with maximum skill in Perform: Acting and Disguise and a coat of entrails, blood and excrement to hide your scent (just to be safe) might work? Or, you could maybe go full-dead and play a juju zombie or a ghoul? Why try to beat them when you can join them or at least take yourself off the menu?

It kind of sounds like your GM means to produce a method to counter any defense you come up with so you aren't 100% immune to the plague so you could turn the tables on him and just walk right into a horde of zombies and let them eat you right at the beginning of the game. Repeat this process with new characters until the GM sees that you aren't taking this seriously and either asks you to stop playing or cancels the campaign. Either way, you are you are free of the zombie epidemic and you win!


Son of the Veterinarian wrote:

The problem with a gunslinger in a PZA (Pathfinder Zombie Apocalypse) is that, unlike in a modern setting, powder and shot are going to be very hard to come by. You could easily run out in a single day and not be anywhere near a surviving supplier of ammo.

If it were me I'd go with a Cleaving Paladin armed with a reach weapon, like a Lucerne Hammer.

Technically that's only in very specific countries, where gun laws are rather liberal. Now, the point behind being a gunslinger here is that you pretty much never have to worry about hitting your target. Gunpowder is pretty easy to make, it takes sulfur, charcoal, and potassium nitrate, some of the more common materials on Earth. Finally, it keeps you away from your targets while keeping a good amount of accuracy and damage. Plus scatter guns are cheating.


Technically that's only in very specific countries, where gun laws are rather liberal

Fighting the undead with American made smith and Wesson, just as the founders planned for!

On the other hand i suppose the brits could raid the museums for swords and plate armor. No ammo limit and its almost impossible to be bitten in a suit...


nategar05 wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:

What I'd build? A fortress. In a remote, very well defensible position. Mountaintop. Somewhere with a mountain stream and tillable land.

The few zombies that will show up there will be easily killed off way before they come into biting distance.

Not according to this article from a well-informed source.

: P

You can weather a nearly indefinite siege if you can fortify an area that includes enough farmland to feed the defenders. Hawaii or England would make good anti-zombie enclaves in the real world. I'm not sure what's handy in Golarion, but it hardly matters because any fortress that includes clerics able to cast create water and create food is also able to hold out nearly indefinitely. If it also includes wizards capable of casting fabricate to recycle worn out tools it could hold out until the god(s) providing the spells keeping the enclave alive died.


I'm not sure what's handy in Golarion

Hermea. You have an isolated island with strictly controlled ports and a giant fire breathing dragon who's Immune to zombie bites.


An Undead or a Construct.


BigNorseWolf wrote:


Technically that's only in very specific countries, where gun laws are rather liberal

Fighting the undead with American made smith and Wesson, just as the founders planned for!

On the other hand i suppose the brits could raid the museums for swords and plate armor. No ammo limit and its almost impossible to be bitten in a suit...

Until they rip it off of you by virtue of sheer numbers. The founding fathers were very forward-thinking.


nategar05 wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:

What I'd build? A fortress. In a remote, very well defensible position. Mountaintop. Somewhere with a mountain stream and tillable land.

The few zombies that will show up there will be easily killed off way before they come into biting distance.

Not according to this article from a well-informed source.

: P

They don't take into consideration magically reinforced bastions, illusions and abjurations to hide you (and your whole fortress) from the undead (you might argue that hide from undead is not on the permanency list, but that's just because the spelltossers haven't tried enough. There's nothing like a Zombiecalypse to motivate researchers), magic to provide food and drink, etc.

And if push comes to shove, there's always Plan B: Pocket Dimension!


Abraham spalding wrote:
An Undead

You're part of the problem. Literally.


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Abraham spalding wrote:
An Undead or a Construct.

That brings up a question I have been wondering about. How would the intelligent undead of Golarion feel about a Zombie Apocalypse? Would Ghouls consider Zombies to be 'meals on the run'? Would Vampires consider them competition? Ooh, would the inhabitants of Geb even notice?

Or Nex for that matter?

"Sir! There is a wave of ravening, flesh-eating undead making for the town!"
"Must be Toilday."


Irnk, Dead-Eye's Prodigal wrote:

On the original thread it sounds like the Zombie Plague is actually a 'viral' Curse rather than an actual disease.

I am also thinking Summoner, Although the idea of a non-evil Undead bloodline Sorcerer trying to force the Zombies against themselves appeals.

Lots of the Extra Channel Feat. Lots & lots...

Oops, I inadvertently switched Undead Bloodline Sorcerer for Necromancy School Wizard...

Dark Archive

Anything with a ring of sustenance or the ioun stone. Hole myself up and live the rest of existence; unlike horror movies in a magic world there's no need to stay on the move and scavenge.

Beyond that, it basically says 1 in 20 attacks are instant kill. Unlike the movies you can't take more than 20 attacks before being statistically dead. So a barbarian / Druid would give you good speed and the create food / water, and cleric 1 with rebuke undead so I can control some of the undead to attack their breatherens.


I think I would follow the CDC recomendations for a Zombie Appocolypse.

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp

Though honestly a Paladin seems like a good bet if it is a disease. There may be no cure but prevention is exceedingly important.

It is very hard to get an unhitable AC at 3rd level and as many people have said a nat 20 is fatal.

So instead, make a character that will be able to kill all the others when you become a zombie. :)


Darksmokepuncher wrote:

In a game set in Golarion, a zombie epidemic sweeps the world. The is no cure, and a single bite means instant death. What would you build to survive?

3rd level
20 point buy
standard wealth by level.

A single bite and you die? I would either refuse to play or I would build a gnome barbarian. Either way, I'd have fun.


Dhampir. Resist energy drain, bonus to disease, detect undead. Probably sorcerer w/ undead bloodlin, since racial bonuses are CHA and DEX.

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