Swordmage in adnd?


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0kay so I am not actually playing a game with this rule-set at the moment.

But we are considering a triumphant return to the Realms with some of the people I started out with, and I was thinking a class like that would be a fit with the concept I have in mind.

Has anyone encountered any obscure articles covering it? or some Campaign kit or even a home-brew version?

Cheers


@stroVal wrote:

0kay so I am not actually playing a game with this rule-set at the moment.

But we are considering a triumphant return to the Realms with some of the people I started out with, and I was thinking a class like that would be a fit with the concept I have in mind.

Has anyone encountered any obscure articles covering it? or some Campaign kit or even a home-brew version?

Cheers

Found a War Wizard kit in "The complete Book of Elves"


The Bladesinger kit was always pretty popular, I thought.


hogarth wrote:
The Bladesinger kit was always pretty popular, I thought.

I was always under the impression that the Bladesinger was the inspiration for the swordmage.


Sebastrd wrote:
hogarth wrote:
The Bladesinger kit was always pretty popular, I thought.
I was always under the impression that the Bladesinger was the inspiration for the swordmage.

While I appreciate charming/roguish characters(been playing those for years), I think this one is too duelist/bard like.

I was thinking of something more akin of a warrior/mage or knight/mage...like a Duscblade

Sovereign Court

I believe that in Dragon #243 there is a Battlecaster class that was made using the class creation rules from the 2E DMG.


PDiddy wrote:
I believe that in Dragon #243 there is a Battlecaster class that was made using the class creation rules from the 2E DMG.

Cheers,just checked with my pdf :) .I need to reread the core rulebooks now


@stroVal wrote:
Sebastrd wrote:
hogarth wrote:
The Bladesinger kit was always pretty popular, I thought.
I was always under the impression that the Bladesinger was the inspiration for the swordmage.

While I appreciate charming/roguish characters(been playing those for years), I think this one is too duelist/bard like.

I was thinking of something more akin of a warrior/mage or knight/mage...like a Duscblade

None of the bladesingers I ever saw played in AD&D acted bard-like in the least. :-)


hogarth wrote:
None of the bladesingers I ever saw played in AD&D acted bard-like in the least. :-)

Ditto. Played in an all elf campaign (homebrew) and the bladesingers were definitely not anything like a bard. We did have some minstrels and spellsingers...but those were a whole other beast.

Greg


hogarth wrote:
@stroVal wrote:
Sebastrd wrote:
hogarth wrote:
The Bladesinger kit was always pretty popular, I thought.
I was always under the impression that the Bladesinger was the inspiration for the swordmage.

While I appreciate charming/roguish characters(been playing those for years), I think this one is too duelist/bard like.

I was thinking of something more akin of a warrior/mage or knight/mage...like a Duscblade

None of the bladesingers I ever saw played in AD&D acted bard-like in the least. :-)

:) I guess it all boils down to individual role-play style.

But from what I read/half-remembered I imagined an elegant sword-master, casting and slashing through the battlefield with the finesse of a performer.Still a very interesting concept

I'll definitely play an elf with that kit at some point


Greg Wasson wrote:
hogarth wrote:
None of the bladesingers I ever saw played in AD&D acted bard-like in the least. :-)

Ditto. Played in an all elf campaign (homebrew) and the bladesingers were definitely not anything like a bard. We did have some minstrels and spellsingers...but those were a whole other beast.

Greg

Interesting; out of curiosity was that back in the adnd days or recently?


@stroVal wrote:
Greg Wasson wrote:
hogarth wrote:
None of the bladesingers I ever saw played in AD&D acted bard-like in the least. :-)

Ditto. Played in an all elf campaign (homebrew) and the bladesingers were definitely not anything like a bard. We did have some minstrels and spellsingers...but those were a whole other beast.

Greg

Interesting; out of curiosity was that back in the adnd days or recently?

It was an AD&D second edition game. Premise was we were the children of a mass exudus to a new continent. Former lands were oppressive to elves and less than a thousand made it to this new continent. The children were communally raised and community was very overprotective of this first set of progeny. Of course we were young and rebelious hundred year olds that chaffed under this treatment and began exploring on our own.

Party wipe in an orc temple :P

Shoulda listened to our elders.

Greg


Greg Wasson wrote:
@stroVal wrote:
Greg Wasson wrote:
hogarth wrote:
None of the bladesingers I ever saw played in AD&D acted bard-like in the least. :-)

Ditto. Played in an all elf campaign (homebrew) and the bladesingers were definitely not anything like a bard. We did have some minstrels and spellsingers...but those were a whole other beast.

Greg

Interesting; out of curiosity was that back in the adnd days or recently?

It was an AD&D second edition game. Premise was we were the children of a mass exudus to a new continent. Former lands were oppressive to elves and less than a thousand made it to this new continent. The children were communally raised and community was very overprotective of this first set of progeny. Of course we were young and rebelious hundred year olds that chaffed under this treatment and began exploring on our own.

Party wipe in an orc temple :P

Shoulda listened to our elders.

Greg

oh my...

And the players handling the Bladesingers used them as 'elven defenders' of sorts?


I also wonder if the Battlecaster is weaker compared to the Duscblade or the Spellsword(prestige class) of 3.5 or the Swordmage of 4e..

Off course its difficult to compare editions which are alien between them

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