I will finish VI one day... One day.
Apparently next summer (assuming I won't come to England again). I won't be sitting naked in front of computer in winter.
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Speaking of guides, I find myself using guides a lot more these days than I would have when I was younger. Possibly a reflection of having less time to commit to games, and figuring things out myself.
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Yeah, you know? Final Fantasy VI? The greatest
videocomputer-game of all time?
Silly Freehold, you didn't fix it, you borked it. :P
VI is a great choice, excellent game and characters. VII was my first, and will always be my favourite. I probably have more hours in it than in any other game I've played, with more than a couple full playthroughs. Still pick the same team every time though. :P
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Heh, don't tell Ebon that, it's her favorite.I haven't even started on VIII, which I also have on Steam.And you're better off for it. :P
More seriously, VIII is my least favourite of the pre XI series by a significant margin. It is not a very good FF, and not a very good game at all, in my opinion.
You mean Ebon is THE ONE PERSON who liked VIII?
Her arrival was foretold.
I know some people who not only say VIII is their favourite FF, but their favourite game of all time. I can only assume this means they've played no other games.
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And FFX, X-2, and XII. I know, I'm a heretic. I have FFVII on Steam but can't seem to get into the story.Heh, don't tell Ebon that, it's her favorite.I haven't even started on VIII, which I also have on Steam.And you're better off for it. :P
More seriously, VIII is my least favourite of the pre XI series by a significant margin. It is not a very good FF, and not a very good game at all, in my opinion.
You mean Ebon is THE ONE PERSON who liked VIII?
Her arrival was foretold.
I actually found X-2 pretty fun. Could be something to do with my love of the job system. That or girls in constantly changing costumes.
FF VII is a slow burner. The longer it goes on, the deeper the story and characters become, as more of their story unfolds and backstory is revealed.
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@ Orthos - Is this your first time playing FF VI? It's my second favourite FF, after VII, so good to see (hear/read?) someone enjoying it. :) Never knew that about Gau either, played the whole game without using him. Never real took to his character. Also didn't help that I didn't have a guide. :P
Speaking of guides, I find myself using guides a lot more these days than I would have when I was younger. Possibly a reflection of having less time to commit to games, and figuring things out myself.
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Say wha?
Yeah, you know? Final Fantasy VII? The greatest
videocomputer-game of all time?No. Nononono.
Baldur's Gate and BG2 remain my favorites.
Nah, Dark Alliance was the pinnacle of the Baldur's Gate series. Truly, none of the others in the series came close.
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I loved FFVII, but never got the chance to finish it. I got really close 5 times, but twice my computer crashed and I lost my saves, once my roommate at the time "accidentally" deleted my save, and then when I tried it on the PlayStation I lost the memory card. I have beaten 1, 2, and 3 (as they were released here, I'm not sure of the Japanese numbering). I also beat one on the SNES that I think was called Final Fantasy Tactics, but I'm not sure of the name. I know I didn't really care for it because it was too easy and incorporated some platforming elements. Also, I don't think there were any truly random encounters. You could see the enemies walking around the map and could avoid most of them.
Now I kind of want to get my NES and SNES from my parents and play some of those old games again, but I've been replaying Skyrim and don't want to stop that. Although maybe I should proceed along the main quest a little more in Skyrim. I haven't retrieved the Horn of Jurgen Windcaller (or whatever) for the Greybeards yet , and I'm already level 40 or 41.
Man, that sucks. PM me if you're on Steam and want a copy. No one who's gotten so close to finishing so many times should be denied their ending.
Tactics was on the Playstation, another good one. Definitely not an easy one. Sounds like TOZ identified the actual "offender".
That's an aspect I love and hate about big sandbox games. I've not beaten the last few Fallouts / Elder Scrolls, cause I just burned myself out spending hours and hours leveling and exploring the world. Still incredibly fun though. :)
What I am doing awake so early on a week of evening shift? It isn't even 10...Being a victim of human programming / habitual sleep cycle?
More of a crappy bed and the fact that parents were getting up early in the morning and, while they not woke me up directly, probably roused me enough to wake myself up when I was turning from side to side.
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More of a crappy bed and the fact that parents were getting up early in the morning and, while they not woke me up directly, probably roused me enough to wake myself up when I was turning from side to side.What I am doing awake so early on a week of evening shift? It isn't even 10...Being a victim of human programming / habitual sleep cycle?
Ah, that'll do it too. Do you have a better bed waiting for you back home? This week is your last work week, right? Hope you have a good week. :)
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FF VII is a slow burner. The longer it goes on, the deeper the story and characters become, as more of their story unfolds and backstory is revealed.
Admittedly part of the reason VII is not higher on my list is a bit of annoyance at how it's Square's favorite and has gotten so much attention compared to the entire rest of the series. It's gotten more spinoff games than any other FF, its characters show up more often in other media*, it got its own freakin' movie.
But it's not a bad game in any sense of the word, and it does to this day remain Square's best-selling product of all time, even not counting all the spinoffs and pre/sequels. So I'm not surprised they milk it for everything it's worth.
And the SNES era games are getting some love now, between the various remakes and IV getting a sequel. (VI's ending makes it particularly difficult to make a sequel for, as well, which is probably one reason why it's not gotten further attention.**)
That said I consider VI much the same. Especially compared to IV and V, the characters are much deeper, much more developed, their individual stories are more complete and more involved (heck, even the caveman boy gets plot development; the only ones who don't are the two secret characters, really), and the entire plot is more thorough than previous stories, and some to follow as well.
I don't think it would be a bad thing, I think it could be an interesting plot, one I've actually considered ideas of my own on. (Yes, the dreaded fanfiction monster reared its head in my life a few times. The horror. The horror!) But until Square - or someone else - decides to tackle the challenge, we'll really never know.
Have fun.
Turning the internet off for now. About 80-90 Mbs left for tomorrow.
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I have an official apartment move-in date - September 3rd.
Which is a Wednesday. Meaning between work and church, I'll maybe have just enough time to swing by and grab the key. Maybe drop off the bath towels and bed covers sitting in my trunk.
Dad won't be available to help move the big furniture until the weekend, so the actual moving-in will be delayed until Saturday or Sunday. Which admittedly means I'll be able to still run Kingmaker that week Thursday, and there'll be plenty of time for the power and internet to be activated before I move in.
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I have an official apartment move-in date - September 3rd.
Which is a Wednesday. Meaning between work and church, I'll maybe have just enough time to swing by and grab the key. Maybe drop off the bath towels and bed covers sitting in my trunk.
Dad won't be available to help move the big furniture until the weekend, so the actual moving-in will be delayed until Saturday or Sunday. Which admittedly means I'll be able to still run Kingmaker that week Thursday, and there'll be plenty of time for the power and internet to be activated before I move in.
Congratulations! Enjoy the new space.
And FFX, X-2, and XII. I know, I'm a heretic. I have FFVII on Steam but can't seem to get into the story.I haven't even started on VIII, which I also have on Steam.And you're better off for it. :P
More seriously, VIII is my least favourite of the pre XI series by a significant margin. It is not a very good FF, and not a very good game at all, in my opinion.
Heh, don't tell Ebon that, it's her favorite.
What's Terranigma btw? Never heard of it.It's an Enix game that's sort of a spiritual successor to Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia. It was never released outside Japan, so you have to make do with (very good, IMO) fan translations. Further info here (but spoilers, obviously).You mean Ebon is THE ONE PERSON who liked VIII?
Her arrival was foretold.
You're cool with me.
Curse my completionism! Allow me to pause the plot a moment not only to go hunt down yet more new Rages, but also teach all the party members who didn't go on the trip to Vector the shiny new Magic we got.
You're getting me in the feels, Orthos. RIGHT IN THE FEELS.
You're thinking of Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.That does sound right. Mostly I just remember it being super easy and boring, so I sold it to a friend who thought 2 and 3 were too complicated.
That sounds like Mystic Quest to me.
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And FFX, X-2, and XII. I know, I'm a heretic. I have FFVII on Steam but can't seem to get into the story.Heh, don't tell Ebon that, it's her favorite.I haven't even started on VIII, which I also have on Steam.And you're better off for it. :P
More seriously, VIII is my least favourite of the pre XI series by a significant margin. It is not a very good FF, and not a very good game at all, in my opinion.
You mean Ebon is THE ONE PERSON who liked VIII?
Her arrival was foretold.
I actually found X-2 pretty fun. Could be something to do with my love of the job system. That or girls in constantly changing costumes.
FF VII is a slow burner. The longer it goes on, the deeper the story and characters become, as more of their story unfolds and backstory is revealed.
I need to..*ahem* research...x-2..Yeah, that's it, RESEARCH X-2. In slow motion.
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@ Orthos - Is this your first time playing FF VI? It's my second favourite FF, after VII, so good to see (hear/read?) someone enjoying it. :) Never knew that about Gau either, played the whole game without using him. Never real took to his character. Also didn't help that I didn't have a guide. :P
Speaking of guides, I find myself using guides a lot more these days than I would have when I was younger. Possibly a reflection of having less time to commit to games, and figuring things out myself.
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Say wha?
Yeah, you know? Final Fantasy VII? The greatest
videocomputer-game of all time?No. Nononono.
Baldur's Gate and BG2 remain my favorites.
Nah, Dark Alliance was the pinnacle of the Baldur's Gate series. Truly, none of the others in the series came close.
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What? It was fun, I played it with my wife a dozen times. It was fun having a 2 player game.
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CUTE!!!!
My mom still laughs at all the times I tried to feed my ears and was disappointed that food wouldn't go in.
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FF VII is a slow burner. The longer it goes on, the deeper the story and characters become, as more of their story unfolds and backstory is revealed.Admittedly part of the reason VII is not higher on my list is a bit of annoyance at how it's Square's favorite and has gotten so much attention compared to the entire rest of the series. It's gotten more spinoff games than any other FF, its characters show up more often in other media*, it got its own freakin' movie.
But it's not a bad game in any sense of the word, and it does to this day remain Square's best-selling product of all time, even not counting all the spinoffs and pre/sequels. So I'm not surprised they milk it for everything it's worth.
And the SNES era games are getting some love now, between the various remakes and IV getting a sequel. (VI's ending makes it particularly difficult to make a sequel for, as well, which is probably one reason why it's not gotten further attention.**)
That said I consider VI much the same. Especially compared to IV and V, the characters are much deeper, much more developed, their individual stories are more complete and more involved (heck, even the caveman boy gets plot development; the only ones who don't are the two secret characters, really), and the entire plot is more thorough than previous stories, and some to follow as well.
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VI REIGNS SUPREME!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bitter Thorn and I are meeting for lunch today.
PULL BACK A BEER FOR ME!!!!
Curse my completionism! Allow me to pause the plot a moment not only to go hunt down yet more new Rages, but also teach all the party members who didn't go on the trip to Vector the shiny new Magic we got.You're getting me in the feels, Orthos. RIGHT IN THE FEELS.
Heh =D I should probably go recruit Mog before I get too much further, as well, so he doesn't lag behind on magic once I get the plot moving again. Yay more party members to train!
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Congratulations! Enjoy the new space.I have an official apartment move-in date - September 3rd.
Which is a Wednesday. Meaning between work and church, I'll maybe have just enough time to swing by and grab the key. Maybe drop off the bath towels and bed covers sitting in my trunk.
Dad won't be available to help move the big furniture until the weekend, so the actual moving-in will be delayed until Saturday or Sunday. Which admittedly means I'll be able to still run Kingmaker that week Thursday, and there'll be plenty of time for the power and internet to be activated before I move in.
I second that motion. :) gz, hope the new place treats you well.
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I second that motion. :) gz, hope the new place treats you well.Congratulations! Enjoy the new space.I have an official apartment move-in date - September 3rd.
Which is a Wednesday. Meaning between work and church, I'll maybe have just enough time to swing by and grab the key. Maybe drop off the bath towels and bed covers sitting in my trunk.
Dad won't be available to help move the big furniture until the weekend, so the actual moving-in will be delayed until Saturday or Sunday. Which admittedly means I'll be able to still run Kingmaker that week Thursday, and there'll be plenty of time for the power and internet to be activated before I move in.
I'm very happy with it. The location is extremely convenient - lots of stuff within short driving distances, some cases even walkable - and with enough open space and elbow room that it doesn't feel like a cramped middle-of-the-city complex. My apartment looks out over the field between us and the nearby main street, rather than toward the complex's parking lot, so the view is nice.
And most of all, I never have to use the annoyingly-busy road that is currently my main route to and from work (and a major source of much of my work-related stress) again. If I want to visit my parents from my new place, there's a much more convenient and much less crowded back road that leads nearly straight to their door.
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I have an official apartment move-in date - September 3rd.
That happens to be the day I am back in my apartment in Poland!
(well, I should be landing before midnight but before I get home through whole city it will be 3rd already).
Meh. Work starts in an hour. I need to go bit earlier today and go to the office ask about that e-mail that I got asking about missing references... I gave them my references in December when I was filling the application. I don't think I need more references to leave...
On that note, there's a list of things I'll need to be shopping for in bits and pieces over the next week. I got all the bathroom towels/washcloths/shower curtain stuff done yesterday as well as sheets/blankets for a mattress I don't yet have. I have all the dishes I'll need except the bigger pots/pans/skillets/etc., which a coworker is looking into possibly giving me; whatever she can't provide I'll need to buy.
It's mostly the little things I'll need to get for myself. Dishwashing stuff, since the apartment lacks a dishwasher of all things. Laundry stuff... well, really just laundry soap and the like, I have baskets and things. Housecleaning stuff. Bathroom soap and other toiletries. And so on and so forth. And I know inevitably there's going to be something I'll miss and need to make a quick trip out to Walmart/Aldi/whatever to snag at the last second.
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FF VII is a slow burner. The longer it goes on, the deeper the story and characters become, as more of their story unfolds and backstory is revealed.Admittedly part of the reason VII is not higher on my list is a bit of annoyance at how it's Square's favorite and has gotten so much attention compared to the entire rest of the series. It's gotten more spinoff games than any other FF, its characters show up more often in other media*, it got its own freakin' movie.
But it's not a bad game in any sense of the word, and it does to this day remain Square's best-selling product of all time, even not counting all the spinoffs and pre/sequels. So I'm not surprised they milk it for everything it's worth.
And the SNES era games are getting some love now, between the various remakes and IV getting a sequel. (VI's ending makes it particularly difficult to make a sequel for, as well, which is probably one reason why it's not gotten further attention.**)
That said I consider VI much the same. Especially compared to IV and V, the characters are much deeper, much more developed, their individual stories are more complete and more involved (heck, even the caveman boy gets plot development; the only ones who don't are the two secret characters, really), and the entire plot is more thorough than previous stories, and some to follow as well.
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I had never realised just how popular it was, oddly. I mean, you'd think the 3 games, a movie, 2 OVA's, and a series of short stories may have given it away, as well as how high it and its characters usually rank on polls of popular games/characters, but I just always assumed it was another cult classic. You just prompted me to look at its wiki page, and it really was massive. Huh.
It's true about VI. No doubt about it, it really did develop full characters, ones you wanted to learn more about... I'm actually tempted to add a replay to my list now. Heck, I'm half tempted to add the whole FF series, it's been years since I've played one. They died with the MMO for me.
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What? It was fun, I played it with my wife a dozen times. It was fun having a 2 player game.
Nah, Dark Alliance was the pinnacle of the Baldur's Gate series. Truly, none of the others in the series came close.
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Oh, I totally agree. Lots of fun. I love me a good co-op. There really aren't enough co-op RPG's. (Yay for Divinity) I just know a few hardcore BG fans who would vehemently disagree.
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"Captain, my sarcasm detector is detecting high volume in this sector."
One of the secret characters has some kind of backstory hinted to, referring to the previous game. Gogo was the name of the boss who protected the Crystal Shard which granted the Mime job in FFV.
Is it just me, or would it be really cool to play that as an RPG? :P I get what you mean, and I'd certainly miss magic in a FF. Maybe it's slowly returning, no magic at the start, and then it slowly bleeds back into the world.
Believe me, I've toyed with the idea. I like to tinker around with RPG Maker, and I think it would be a fun project. Who knows, maybe I'll do something with it. And people who can tolerate fangames could playtest it for me =)
"Captain, my sarcasm detector is detecting high volume in this sector."
Captain, HRMS Scintillae far to port! She's prepping Sarcasti-cannons!
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Hahah! Well, so noted, and enjoy the opportunity to consider yourself educated then =)
But yeah, it really is a huge franchise, and even just limiting it to the original game itself (counting rereleases like the "Greatest Hits" label and the Steam release) it's still the best-selling game in the entire series. It's not too surprising it's Square's main focus, and the source of its largest fandom.
Given all that, and the declining nature of the later games in the FF series as a whole from most players' standpoints I've heard/read, it's kind of surprising they haven't done a straight-forward sequel. Advent Children was fairly short, compared to the full-length plot of a game. Dirge of Cerberus was more a side-story than a sequel, since its cast and the scope of the game were fairly limited compared to the entirety of the world it's set in.
I vaguely recall someone saying that one of the higher-up Square mucketymucks put out a statement that a full, direct FFVII sequel wouldn't come until another game outperformed the original, but that's becoming increasingly unlikely, if it was even an accurate quote in the first place.
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The quote I heard was that one of the leads on the original team said they wouldn't make a sequel until the original could no longer be played on modern gaming consoles. Which was just about the only reason I was glad when backwards compatibility stopped being the standard. Only for the blasted thing to get a Steam release! :P Of course, as with all "quotes" one hears on the internet, who knows what the real story is.
I won't comment on the decline of the series. I'd like to, but it wouldn't be kind, and I probably wouldn't be giving them fair credit. I hope that the popularity of the revivals/remakes will encourage them to return to their origins though.
EDIT : I found your quote linked on the wiki ;
Probably for the best =)
And yeah, I don't take it as gospel until I can get a source, and "some guy on a forum" is hardly authoritative. Still, it's a fairly-commonly repeated claim in communities where such games are discussed frequently, so I don't want to put it completely out of the realm of possibility.
I just hope the successes of VII, VIII, and III on Steam may raise the possibility of the other games, at least up to X/X-2, making the jump to PC as well.
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@ Orthos - Is this your first time playing FF VI? It's my second favourite FF, after VII, so good to see (hear/read?) someone enjoying it. :) Never knew that about Gau either, played the whole game without using him. Never real took to his character. Also didn't help that I didn't have a guide. :P
Speaking of guides, I find myself using guides a lot more these days than I would have when I was younger. Possibly a reflection of having less time to commit to games, and figuring things out myself.
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Say wha?
Yeah, you know? Final Fantasy VII? The greatest
videocomputer-game of all time?No. Nononono.
Baldur's Gate and BG2 remain my favorites.
Nah, Dark Alliance was the pinnacle of the Baldur's Gate series. Truly, none of the others in the series came close.
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I played them way back when they were first released. They were my first introduction into RPGs, and really they were what got me hooked into computer/video games.
I have a long list of favorites, actually. However, nothing beats those two for me.
EDIT : I found your quote linked on the wiki ;
Yay source.
So. "Quality" is pretty subjective. If you ask Freehold, he'll say - as he has several times already - that FFVII's quality has already been beaten. I'd be inclined to agree, given how many games I've rated ahead of it. You and other fans would likely disagree. So the only nonsubjective means to judge would have to be sales. Some new SquareEnix game is going to have to outsell FFVII. And... well, that's not happening any time soon, I would estimate, as I said before. (And that's being generous and again sticking to just the original game itself and re-releases, not counting all the other merchandise. If they include that... yeah, never happening.)
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Grrr.
*jumps up on top of fence*
*hissssssss*
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hi evryone,
dwarfling sleeps after a baby buggy walk through the rain :-)
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a moose walked into an office bulding in Dresden today
he stood there in the lobby and refused to move,
they tranquilized him, but him into an garbage container and brought him into an woodlad area where he will be save
the apporximate moose pupulation in Germany is : 10 Moose
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I will spend Friday to Sunday with some friend/co-workers in Munich
there will be much beer
on friday we will visit the Paulaner/Hacker-Pschorr brewery
there my be drunken postings :-)
