With the Spring Errata just dropping it is time to start a new Errata Thread for all the stuff they missed or didn't get to. As this stuff is very important to the community and as such we will be repeating a Errata Thread!
Errata: Kineticist Class
Issue: It doesn't work with the Mythic Ruleset and if you want it ot it requires homebrewing/houseruling that Blasts are Strikes and Impulses are Spells.
Errata: Swashbuckler Multiclass Dedication
Issue: It has no way to use Panache till level 4 when you get a second feat.
Errata: Beastlord Mythic Destin
Issue: Your companion is not treated as a Mythic creature
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Suggestions for next Errata: Review the suggestions from thread https://paizo.com/threads/rzs5n02x?Spring-Errata-2025-suggestions.
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Also: don't clutter up this thread with long discussions, post your errata suggestion, move on.
I wish you guys would have explained how Titan's Breaker's Transcendent worked as a Exemplar Ikon, it is far more confusing then Noble Branch. It feels off as neither my DM or me can fully understand it. If it is just a single weapon die then it is pretty nearly weak...
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Tian Xia: Character Guide
Wayang Weapon Familiarity
Weapon familiarity usually includes a line that says you gain access to Uncommon weapons with your ancestry trait. Wayang does not. Merfolk does this, even though there are no weapons with the Merfolk trait.
Whether or not Paizo intends to make Wayang weapons isn’t the point, it’s just incorrect in terms of how the Weapon Familiarity feats work and for future-proofing.
Excerpt: You learned to fight with weapons that help you keep your distance or make the most of striking from shadows. You gain access to and familiarity with the blowgun, fighting fan, kris, longspear, machete, sai, and trident. You have familiarity with these weapons—for the purposes of proficiency, you treat any of these that are martial weapons as simple weapons and any that are advanced weapons as martial weapons.
Add: You gain access to all uncommon weapons with the wayang trait.
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Definition of Instance of Damage.
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Errata: Air Scamp (Specific Familiar
Issue: Scamps must pay for Flight and Elemental Mobility. Elemental Mobility for Air familiars gives flight, meaning the Air Scamp pays for it twice.
Suggested Fix: Have elemental mobility give another benefit to Air familiars if they already possess flight, such as Fast Movement (Fly) or maybe a version of Purify Air the druid leshy familiar gets.
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Definition of Instance of Damage.
To get this into a more communicable state:
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There is ambiguity in the resistance and weakness rules hinging on an "instance of damage."
In order to achieve the result / outcome as described by a dev in an old forum post, there seems to be missing rule(s) on the procedure to group some, but not all, damage.
The existing Rules as Written appear especially incomplete/self-contradictory when looking at abilities like Flurry of Blow that combine multiple hits for res/weakness purposes, or when trying to understand what makes weak/resist all special/abnormal.
(I have the suspicion that the community norm, and Foundry default, makes resistance / weakness much more impactful than intended due to the dev making a simple mistake in their off-the-cuff answer. That answer's result requires that every additional type of bonus damage gets to proc weak/res despite being a single sword swing / "instance of damage".)
Before I forget about it:
After the Remaster, the Additive trait was changed to remove the mechanics of changing the item's level.
As such, the feat Combine Elixir no longer edits the level of the base item when adding the 2nd elixir's effects.
The feat Eternal Elixirs retained the restriction that the elixir item level must be half one's own.
This means that one must use an elixir of 1/2 level as a base, but is free to add in an elixir of any level via Combine.
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My suggested errata is actually to remove the 1/2 level restriction on Eternal, (and to combine Persistent Mutagen with Perfect Mutagen into a single feat w/ both effects) but I doubt that'll be done.
The Eternal feat is already very well constrained due to being self-drunk only, requiring a feat tax in Extended, and arguably "should not" have yet another harsh limiter in the 1/2 level requirement.
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The other ~fix is to add language to Combine to increase the item's level based on the level of the additive, closing the current remaster-added loophole.
I've seen and experienced a lot of uncertainty about how a kineticists elemental familiar works. The text of elemental familiar says you gain an elemental familiar and refers to page 42 of rage of elements. That page has a number of familiars, as well as familiar abilities. Does the familiar granted by the feat a regular familiar and one of the two abilities it has must be the elemental ability, or is the elemental ability something the familiar gets for free? Does a kineticist get a specific elemental familiar? It's open to interpretation and makes me hesitant to take the feat.
Ancestries (in general): How about an errata that all [Ancestry Lore] feats now grant Additional Lore instead of just trained proficiency, to match remastered ancestries? And that ancestry weapon feats are modified to match remastered ancestries, too. Would help players patch legacy races into remaster games.
More specifically, the Vanara feat Climbing Tail needs some cleanup: General consensus is that it does allow you to climb with zero free hands and both legs, but would greatly appreciate cleaner wording. Dangle might also need an adjustment, since it seems like it might be redundant unless you fall if you stop climbing.
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Class: Monk
Rule for which errata is needed: Qi spells, also Advanced, Master, etc.
Issue: Feats generally cannot be taken more than once without a special section that explains what happens when you take the feat a second time (e.g. Assurance says "choose a different skill"). These feats serve to condense legacy feats to save save page space, however pre-remaster it was possible to select both Ki Strike and Ki Rush with two different feat choices, but currently you cannot select Qi Spells more than once because it lacks a special section. There isn't really a reason that this should work differently after the remaster; the similar feats for the Ranger (e.g. Initiate Warden) do have a special section- "You can take this feat multiple times, choosing a different initial warden spell each time" so something similar should be added to the monk feats.
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Class: Exemplar
Rules: Barrow's Edge transcendence (Drink of My Foes), Scar of the Survivor transcendence (No Scar But This)
Issue: Do these abilities need to have the vitality trait? As is, this cuts off self-healing options in the class from those who have/use the void healing ability. Drink of My Foes especially seems like it was intended to be a health drain effect that could easily have the void trait.
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Note that if you want to discuss ambiguities in the rules, rather than flag them for potential errata it's better to do so in a different thread.
The whole "what if you fork the gate after taking elemental overlap" question was discussed heavily in the rules forum when RoE came out and no consensus was reached, so it's appropriate to point out that this would benefit from clarification.