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Second visit to the dentist this morning (to complete the root canal now that the infection has cleared up, and get the temporary crown) much better than the first. I'm exhausted and a little cold, but apparently both of these are common side effects of nitrous.

Thank goodness we still had stuffing and mashed potatoes and gravy left over from the holiday, so I could fill myself with soft food before the Novocaine wore off.

As a bonus, I randomly discovered a play-online site for the dungeon-crawling computer game I was massively hooked on in high school, The Dungeon Revealed. 8-bit. Totally basic.


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Dungeon Revealed indeed...


captain yesterday wrote:
I loved Twisted Metal and Need For Speed.

I would recommend the Driver series for you. It is a shame it didn't get more love.

Scarab Sages

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NobodysHome wrote:

*SIGH*

The Neverending Battle of Winter continues.

GothBard and I grew up in environmentally- and/or energy-conscious households. We've done our utmost to drill that consciousness into our kids. Impus Major is fantastic about his own room, making sure his lights, his computer, his electric blanket, and his electric heater are off every time he comes out. Impus Minor rarely turns on his lights or leaves his room anyway, so it's hardly a feat for him to keep the lights off in his room.

And yet in the core of the house it's always the same. Every light stays on all day if I don't come in and turn it off. Someone walks into the living room, says, "Brr, it's cold," and cranks up the fireplace to 70˚F or 75˚F, then leaves the room 5 minutes later and leaves the fireplace burning.

Every single day I have to make 5-6 circuits around the house turning stuff off. And every single day I get complaints of, "Hey, I was using that!"
(No, you weren't even in the house when I turned it off.)

It's an eternal aggravation: If you're in the habit of turning everything ON when you enter a room, why is it SO hard to get into the habit of turning it OFF when you leave?

You'll feel right at home with me and my dad. Growing up with only be able to heat one room has religiously drilled into us to close doors. Which, now that my dad lives in a house with central heating, still hapens. (heating only one room, as well as religiously closing doors).

Also, turning off lights. We're not providing light for the chickens you know.

Also I hate that MrT leaves lights on and doors open to the point I can yell "How do you know MrT has been in a room?!" to which he dejectedly answers "door is open and light is on".


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Some news.


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captain yesterday wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
What is git gud, besides an example of either a primitive language or canonized misspelling established by lazy kids or a!#*@~+s on the internet.

A general attitude that if you can't pick up a game sight unseen and immediately master it then you're unworthy of playing said game.

So if you want tutorials or a gradual introduction to the controls it makes you a worthless person who doesn't deserve the joy of gaming. You have to be able to master everything on your own by mashing buttons while dying over and over again until you've figured everything out without once looking for a guide or even the key bindings to figure out what you can do.

Oh, that's when I put it on easy mode.

Usually not an option on said games.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
What is git gud, besides an example of either a primitive language or canonized misspelling established by lazy kids or a!#*@~+s on the internet.

A general attitude that if you can't pick up a game sight unseen and immediately master it then you're unworthy of playing said game.

So if you want tutorials or a gradual introduction to the controls it makes you a worthless person who doesn't deserve the joy of gaming. You have to be able to master everything on your own by mashing buttons while dying over and over again until you've figured everything out without once looking for a guide or even the key bindings to figure out what you can do.

Oh, that's when I put it on easy mode.
Usually not an option on said games.

Then it's to the trash heap!

I also usually see if there's an honest game trailer before I buy a game.


Fantasy Monster: Great Flightless Bat.


NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
What is git gud, besides an example of either a primitive language or canonized misspelling established by lazy kids or a!#*@~+s on the internet.

A general attitude that if you can't pick up a game sight unseen and immediately master it then you're unworthy of playing said game.

So if you want tutorials or a gradual introduction to the controls it makes you a worthless person who doesn't deserve the joy of gaming. You have to be able to master everything on your own by mashing buttons while dying over and over again until you've figured everything out without once looking for a guide or even the key bindings to figure out what you can do.

That's how the games worked in general in 80s and part of 90s... You often had to guess the controls, though use of joystic being sort of standard controller helped a lot.

Except that some games were physically accompanied by a (usually) cheaply printed physical manual. Those that weren't were often described to a varying degree of detail in various paper magazine dedicated to games.

Honestly, I am not missing that part. Yes, there were some great games but there were tons of things that were really not that impressive, even for their time.


Limeylongears wrote:
Dungeon Revealed indeed...

Aw crap. I'm dressed.

In my defense, I was doped up and not entirely conscious. Which is not a good state to be in while naked. It's like a canned hunt.


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Giant in the Playground is having a massive sale. I just scored the first two Order of the Stick books for my kids at 75% off.


I have finished Shadow Of The Tomb Raider. It was ok, its biggest issue that it was a third game predceded by two excellent games setting up the bar very high.


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Apparently, Freehold is on TVTropes.

I wonder who put him there.


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Gorbacz broke with the tradition and had not fell unconscious on today's session.

There was some leniency related to his 40th birthday the day before, though it was used more in the favor of the rest of the party during a rather unbalanced encounter (we are playing Paizo's the Slithering).


I don't really feel the appeal of New Game+ in Tomb Raiders.

Ok. Time to play a bit of Assassin's Creed. Starting with The Black Flag. Then we'll see.


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On the plus side, the pandemic has led me to experiment with RPGs and video games I probably wouldn't have considered a couple of years ago (it helps getting overtime on a regular basis).


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The Insane Biology of: The Octopus


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

Apparently, Freehold is on TVTropes.

I wonder who put him there.

...I'm what?


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Sharoth wrote:
The Insane Biology of: The Octopus

its truly unfortunate they are so delicious.


Drejk wrote:

I don't really feel the appeal of New Game+ in Tomb Raiders.

Ok. Time to play a bit of Assassin's Creed. Starting with The Black Flag. Then we'll see.

have you not played 1-3?


Drejk wrote:

Gorbacz broke with the tradition and had not fell unconscious on today's session.

There was some leniency related to his 40th birthday the day before, though it was used more in the favor of the rest of the party during a rather unbalanced encounter (we are playing Paizo's the Slithering).

HAPPY BIRTHDAY GORBACZ YOU WEIRDO NOVEMBER SAGITTARIUS


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Freehold DM wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

Apparently, Freehold is on TVTropes.

I wonder who put him there.

...I'm what?

Scroll down in the section I linked. You and Mikaze are mentioned.


Celestial Healer wrote:

The quote from yesterday’s Strange Aeons PF game:

“WTF, it’s my birthday, man!”

The party rogue (played by FAWTL alum Patrick Curtin) was sneaking about a tannery while invisible looking for an outsider imposter. He got stuck in a room with a group of guards seated around a table (he got a really high Stealth roll, so they were unalarmed).

“What are they talking about?” Me: They’re planning a trip to a strip club.

Not seeing a way out of the room without alerting them, he finally pulled out his bow and started taking them out with sneak attacks. (Bear in mind, these are just hired guards sitting around a table.) The party rushes in and attacks. By the time the guards’ initiative finally came up, there was only one half-dead guard left.

He dropped his weapon in surrender and said, “What the f#%@! It’s my birthday, man!”

This will forever be our line whenever players go full murderhobo and slaughter enemies who weren’t even attacking them.

Snitches get stitches


Deoraich ‘Dubs’ MacGadai wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:

The quote from yesterday’s Strange Aeons PF game:

“WTF, it’s my birthday, man!”

The party rogue (played by FAWTL alum Patrick Curtin) was sneaking about a tannery while invisible looking for an outsider imposter. He got stuck in a room with a group of guards seated around a table (he got a really high Stealth roll, so they were unalarmed).

“What are they talking about?” Me: They’re planning a trip to a strip club.

Not seeing a way out of the room without alerting them, he finally pulled out his bow and started taking them out with sneak attacks. (Bear in mind, these are just hired guards sitting around a table.) The party rushes in and attacks. By the time the guards’ initiative finally came up, there was only one half-dead guard left.

He dropped his weapon in surrender and said, “What the f#%@! It’s my birthday, man!”

This will forever be our line whenever players go full murderhobo and slaughter enemies who weren’t even attacking them.

Snitches get stitches

But the liches get all the wenches.


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Undertaker7 wrote:
Deoraich ‘Dubs’ MacGadai wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:

The quote from yesterday’s Strange Aeons PF game:

“WTF, it’s my birthday, man!”

The party rogue (played by FAWTL alum Patrick Curtin) was sneaking about a tannery while invisible looking for an outsider imposter. He got stuck in a room with a group of guards seated around a table (he got a really high Stealth roll, so they were unalarmed).

“What are they talking about?” Me: They’re planning a trip to a strip club.

Not seeing a way out of the room without alerting them, he finally pulled out his bow and started taking them out with sneak attacks. (Bear in mind, these are just hired guards sitting around a table.) The party rushes in and attacks. By the time the guards’ initiative finally came up, there was only one half-dead guard left.

He dropped his weapon in surrender and said, “What the f#%@! It’s my birthday, man!”

This will forever be our line whenever players go full murderhobo and slaughter enemies who weren’t even attacking them.

Snitches get stitches
But the liches get all the wenches.

Give that wench a bench. Wenches love benches.


Hello, everyone.


Freehold DM wrote:
Drejk wrote:

I don't really feel the appeal of New Game+ in Tomb Raiders.

Ok. Time to play a bit of Assassin's Creed. Starting with The Black Flag. Then we'll see.

have you not played 1-3?

I started 1 long-long ago and quit bored during the pikpocketing tutorial. I reach much longer in 2, which I ununinstalled from the laptop after I got the new computer in July, and haven't installed it again after the failure. I don't have 3 but I have Black Flag, Unity, and Origins.

I staarted the Black Flag - I have reached Havana for now but I have early feeling that it will get me bored or annoyed.

On the other hand I might be currently getting that reaction from more games than usual.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

Apparently, Freehold is on TVTropes.

I wonder who put him there.

...I'm what?
Scroll down in the section I linked. You and Mikaze are mentioned.

Spoiler:
A meta moment, but applicable. There are a number of prominent posters on the Paizo forum. One of them, Mikaze, is a well known champion of (among other things) good and neutral members of traditionally monstrous races. When the origin of Oloch the iconic half-orc Warpriest was released, Mikaze was thrilled (Mikaze was similarly happy about Irabeth's backstory, too). Poster Freehold DM had this to say in response: "If nothing else, thank you, Paizo, for making my friend happy."

captain yesterday wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
What is git gud, besides an example of either a primitive language or canonized misspelling established by lazy kids or a!#*@~+s on the internet.

A general attitude that if you can't pick up a game sight unseen and immediately master it then you're unworthy of playing said game.

So if you want tutorials or a gradual introduction to the controls it makes you a worthless person who doesn't deserve the joy of gaming. You have to be able to master everything on your own by mashing buttons while dying over and over again until you've figured everything out without once looking for a guide or even the key bindings to figure out what you can do.

Oh, that's when I put it on easy mode.
Usually not an option on said games.

Then it's to the trash heap!

I also usually see if there's an honest game trailer before I buy a game.

Not only do the Souls games not have an Easy Mode - deliberately, by the creator's own statements - but the community is vehemently against them having one, claiming adding one would "ruin the experience" and "cheapen the efforts of people who did it 'properly'."

THAT is what "git gud" means. Not just what NH already outlined, but the deliberate gatekeeping of anyone who would wish to participate in the community but can't meet whatever bar the game has set.


I have finished Far Cry New Dawn—apparently I stopped three (rather irritating) fights and a shot out away from the ending. The last two fights were a medikit crafting slugfest...

The game is beuatiful but it has some poor design choices - mainly the annoying enemy/weapon tiers that makes low tier weapons completely useless later on. Some characters are ok, if not particularly creative, others are rather meh, and sadly, that includes borings main antagonists...

Lets hope Far Cry 6 goes closer to Far Cry 4 in that. Latin dictator has a potential for stylish hamminess on par with Pagan Min.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

Apparently, Freehold is on TVTropes.

I wonder who put him there.

...I'm what?
Scroll down in the section I linked. You and Mikaze are mentioned.

I am a part of internet history forever.


As rightly you should be FHDM.

Scarab Sages

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I should sent freehold more cat pics


Apparently you should. I am of the cat now, as I am part of the internet.


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Freehold can haz cheezburger


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Random Question for the Group:

Is the "first week of December" this week, or next week?

Our takes:
I live in the corporate world where the "first week of the month" always starts on the first Monday of the month. Since Monday the 7th is the first Monday of the month, the "first week of December" is December 7-13.

GothBard feels that since more than half of this week is in December, this week (November 30-December 6) is the "first week of December".


I was curious how other people interpret this phrase.


I usually refer to Dec 7-13 as "the first *full* week of December", and I agree that this is technically the first week.

Also, VE gets cookies.


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Yeah, this is the first week of december


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lisamarlene wrote:

I usually refer to Dec 7-13 as "the first *full* week of December", and I agree that this is technically the first week.

Also, VE gets cookies.

I second LM's interpretation.

At work, if/when someone says "We're thinking the 1st week of December," IT always responds with "Please give us specific dates for your timeline and we will meet those dates."


A bit on the nose


lisamarlene wrote:

I usually refer to Dec 7-13 as "the first *full* week of December", and I agree that this is technically the first week.

Also, VE gets cookies.

it is supposed to be next week, yes.

Silver Crusade

Agree with “first full week”. Anything else is confusing.

Silver Crusade

Ugh. Power has been out for more than 90 minutes. I’m sitting in the twilight darkness, listening to the sound of my neighbor’s generator and my tinnitus.


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This is the first week of December.


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Celestial Healer wrote:
Ugh. Power has been out for more than 90 minutes. I’m sitting in the twilight darkness, listening to the sound of my neighbor’s generator and my tinnitus.

Nothing a .45 cal Desert Eagle can't cure. Will simultaneously take out that generator and help you hear your tinnitus more clearly!

That's what you were complaining about, right? Did I get confused again?

Silver Crusade

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Vanykrye wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Ugh. Power has been out for more than 90 minutes. I’m sitting in the twilight darkness, listening to the sound of my neighbor’s generator and my tinnitus.

Nothing a .45 cal Desert Eagle can't cure. Will simultaneously take out that generator and help you hear your tinnitus more clearly!

That's what you were complaining about, right? Did I get confused again?

There are few problems in life that cannot be solved with a .45 cal Desert Eagle.


Saturday night at like, 11 pm my internet suddenly started getting super spotty. I restarted my router, then my modem, multiple times for ever longer periods of time between being off and on. Nothing seemed to be helping. I also checked outages in my area and had my cable co. check the signal coming into the house. It definitely seemed to be a problem on my end.

The internet would come back on for like, 5-10 minutes, then cut out again, with the modem seeming to reset every so often. By close to 1 am I was absolutely fed up and about to trash my hardware.

It took my dumb A to try the connections. Sure enough, the cable out of the wall to the modem was really loose. I tightened that back up, no issues besides the norm the past 2 days.

What I can't figure out, for the life of me, is how the connection would have loosened. I'm pretty sure the kids were screwing around with it for WHATEVER reason and won't admit it. WHY they wouldn't admit it is beyond me.

Whatever the case, that was the big excitement here. LM, I wish you a speedy recovery. Hopefully everyone else had an enjoyable weekend.


It was a very cold and frustrating day, but it's all good I've already figured out a few solutions to try out tomorrow.


It was kind of cool to put a spare water bottle 2/3 full on top of a shut down water fountain and watch it freeze before my eyes while I worked.


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CrystalSeas wrote:
This is the first week of December.

I'm pretty sure it's Monday.

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