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Orthos wrote:

Spoiler:
I shared the "voting isn't getting married and swearing forever fealty, it's getting on the bus that gets you at least closer to your destination". His response was "Yes, and Biden isn't where I want to go. Cruz is."

Getting on the bus with Ted Cruz is how forensic scientists find your remains in soup cans a decade from now in Cruz's isolated cabin in the woods.

Edit: Nekkid Ted Cruz?!?! Hang on, I've got a grapefruit spoon in the drawer which will be perfect for gouging my eyeballs out.

Lantern Lodge

Actual Cannibal Shia LaBeouf wrote:
Orthos wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Getting on the bus with Ted Cruz is how forensic scientists find your remains in soup cans a decade from now in Cruz's isolated cabin in the woods.

Edit: Nekkid Ted Cruz?!?! Hang on, I've got a grapefruit spoon in the drawer which will be perfect for gouging my eyeballs out.

NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE!!!!


looks through binoculars from secured bunker several miles away at conversation

Fritzy.

Light em up.


<holds out unlit cigar. Waits.>

Dark Archive

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BURN THE WORLD!!! BURN IT! BURN IT DOWN!!!


Darth Draconis wrote:
BURN THE WORLD!!! BURN IT! BURN IT DOWN!!!

{laughs maniacally, except has no voice box or speaker, so silently}


About to go home. Good night, everyone.


We bought a new house today. Took our 5-year-old daughter over to see it for the first time. She ran around excitedly, then stopped at the foot of the staircase and asked "What's upstairs?" I smiled and said "Oh, sweetie. Stairs can't talk."


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"Master Yoda, do you have a last name?"
"Yes. A last name I have."
"What is it?"
"Hmmm.... Layheehoo, it is."
"Your name is Yoda Layheehoo? I quit being a Jedi."


My young son and I were having our first discussion about drugs. He was curious about why people would do drugs in the first place, and I told him that many people do it because it produces different feelings of euphoria. He asked, "What's euphoria?" I told him "It's hard to explain...
But it's a feeling somewhere between euthreeia and eufiveia."


It's been decided that our next campaign will be Kingmaker, so I'm thinking about a character. I'm considering Kineticist, but I'm wondering if anyone here has any experience playing as or alongside one. If so, any advice? Are they fun to play with, or (as it kind of looks after skimming the rules for a couple of minutes) are they a pain in the ass to build?


Put everything in Con, and you pretty much can't go wrong.


That's not really what I'm asking. Do they work well with others? I don't want to outshine the others, nor do I want to be left behind in the dust. And are they just one-tick ponies? I understand they're supposed to be like the old 3.5 Warlocks, sort of anyways, and I always felt like those weren't very versatile. But maybe that's because I only saw one guy play a warlock, and his characters, while not cookie-cutters, were very similar to each other.


Dwarven forge kickstarter in its last day. If you have ever thought about getting modular 3d terrain for your games (rpg, wargames, ??) take a look.

This is a wilderness set. Sorry no sci fi at this time but they also have great dungeon, cavern, and castle lines

Scarab Sages

Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Woran wrote:

Holliday candies are out and I'm eating myself sick.

No regrets.

They have those?! AWESOME! Though it seems a bit ironic because he was a dentist. I hope they were huckleberry flavored.

They are also super bad for my teeth yes. I think this was delibirate. Create more work and all that.

Scarab Sages

gran rey de los mono wrote:
That's not really what I'm asking. Do they work well with others? I don't want to outshine the others, nor do I want to be left behind in the dust. And are they just one-tick ponies? I understand they're supposed to be like the old 3.5 Warlocks, sort of anyways, and I always felt like those weren't very versatile. But maybe that's because I only saw one guy play a warlock, and his characters, while not cookie-cutters, were very similar to each other.

They are really easy to cheese, but you can defenitely tone it down with your build and pick of element.

Picking something that does not go for touch AC already helps a bunch with staying in line with your party members.


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Grumble grumble morning


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...I'll come fooooollowing you...


Freehold DM wrote:
Grumble grumble morning

Story of my life...

Scarab Sages

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Freehold DM wrote:
Grumble grumble morning

Yes.


Nylarthotep wrote:

Dwarven forge kickstarter in its last day. If you have ever thought about getting modular 3d terrain for your games (rpg, wargames, ??) take a look.

This is a wilderness set. Sorry no sci fi at this time but they also have great dungeon, cavern, and castle lines

So, the Hirst Arts floor molds have a 1" square dirt and rock mold for $29. A 5lb bag of gray Merlin's Magic Hobby Stone powder cost's $11. Then you gotta pay shipping fees, wait for a while, and possibly pick up some paints and brushes. Finally, you gotta mold the stuff yourself.

However, say $60 for all the unpainted wilderness tiles 5lbs of hobby plaster will make isn't bad.

I bought a bunch of molds years ago to make dungeon tiles. I used them a lot at first, then not at all for a couple years because I got too busy and wasn't home a lot. Currently, while working from home, 2 times I've managed to set up and scrape a casting of basic dungeon blocks between reports running on my laptop.

In other words, I've got the time right now.

I'm not saying this works for everyone and I'm not saying that Hirst's molds are a better option. I'm just saying, maybe give it a thought?


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I'm working a block away from home today so it's definitely a good day.


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We're working Captain; its definitely a good day.


DF is definitely not for everyone.

fan boy babble:

The make your own stuff is frequently going to be exactly what you want without any pieces that you never use.

There are also numerous companies that will sell you an .stl file for 3D terrain. If you have a 3D printer and time to paint those are good options.

Sadly, I have no time to paint or sculpt these days. Work creep and two small children mean that my free time is spent before I know it is free.

But for my dollars, the DF stuff is the gold standard. Modular. Nigh indestructible. My 4 year old likes to 'play blocks' with it and make some curious set ups.

This is also their first big foray into above ground stuff. They have an earlier run of mountains and forests, but this KS is a big set for mountains, swamps, and forests biomes. I have had flocked trees and hate them. Problem solved. I have used children table cloths for water effects. Problem solved. And the light puck! The fog machine! Bam. Take my money.


OK... maybe living in the Bay Area has spoiled me for working from home, but seriously, the levels of complaints along the lines of, "We need an extra $300/month to recoup the costs of working from home," is utterly ludicrous to me:

- If you're a tech worker, you're already paying for home internet. So... one guy claimed he had to install a second dedicated high-speed line just to work from home. Another said that after he broke 1 TB of downloads in a single month he got overage charges from his ISP. Leading to the obvious questions, "WTH are you downloading?" and "Why are you with an ISP that has a hard data cap?"

- They want desks, chairs, monitors, and a full home setup. My real question would be, "So, after Global Megacorporation shells out for all that stuff, are you going to return it once you're back in the office, or do you plan on buying sweet swag and keeping it?"

- With GothBard and Impus Major not commuting, I'm saving $200/month in raw transportation costs. Plus another $150-$200 in food. That works out to... oh, hey! The $300/month you're asking for.

So, admittedly, GothBard's company was a class act about it. "Here's a one-time $500 payment to get all the equipment you need. Now here's $100/month for any additional expenses for working from home."

I considered that exceedingly generous and appreciated it.

But, "We want $300/month for working from home or we're walking?"
Er... I suspect you're going to get some nice use from your non-company-paid-for shoes...

EDIT: The one that kills me is their argument that they need to be reimbursed for the extra electricity usage. So... your work laptop might pull what? 175 watts? Let's say you're a power hog and you're using a full kilowatt of power for your sweet, sweet setup. Multiply by 8 hours a day and 20 days a month and you're at around 160 kWh/month. Which around here is around $23/month. So, you're telling me that no commute and no eating away from home doesn't save you at least $23/month?


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captain yesterday wrote:
I'm working a block away from home today so it's definitely a good day.

And now it's time for another installment of "Bold Tales: The Legend of Yesterday"...

Co-worker 1: "Dude, Yesterday told me he had to use the bathroom and to stay put. Then he walked about a block away, went up to a house like he owned it, and just walked inside."

Co-worker 2: "No way, dude."

Co-worker 1: "Yes way, dude. Came back in a little bit eating a sandwich he'd made while he was there. Dude's got balls big as churchbells."


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So, occasionally you get a politician behaving admirably, and it's surprising and pleasant enough to share.

I've hated Buffy Wicks. I've tiraded against her, voted against her, and told others why they should vote against her.

Then she pulls this.

OK, Buffy Wicks. I formally apologize. You rock. You do you.

(I still politically oppose her. But I'm going to give respect where it's d**ned well due.)


NobodysHome wrote:

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- They want desks, chairs, monitors, and a full home setup. My real question would be, "So, after Global Megacorporation shells out for all that stuff, are you going to return it once you're back in the office, or do you plan on buying sweet swag and keeping it?"

snip

So, admittedly, GothBard's company was a class act about it. "Here's a one-time $500 payment to get all the equipment you need. Now here's $100/month for any additional expenses for working from home."

snip

There is less transportation expense, and there is maybe less eating expense (still gotta eat, I took my lunch a lot instead of eating out).

The things I have been using are the consumables. Paper for printer. Ink/toner cartridges. Batteries for mouse/keyboard. Correction tape. File folders. Legal pads.

Minutes on cell phone (I have unlimited data, not unlimited phone calls). The firm does not pay my cell phone bill.

But probably not 300/mo worth.


Nylarthotep wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

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- They want desks, chairs, monitors, and a full home setup. My real question would be, "So, after Global Megacorporation shells out for all that stuff, are you going to return it once you're back in the office, or do you plan on buying sweet swag and keeping it?"

snip

So, admittedly, GothBard's company was a class act about it. "Here's a one-time $500 payment to get all the equipment you need. Now here's $100/month for any additional expenses for working from home."

snip

There is less transportation expense, and there is maybe less eating expense (still gotta eat, I took my lunch a lot instead of eating out).

The things I have been using are the consumables. Paper for printer. Ink/toner cartridges. Batteries for mouse/keyboard. Correction tape. File folders. Legal pads.

Minutes on cell phone (I have unlimited data, not unlimited phone calls). The firm does not pay my cell phone bill.

But probably not 300/mo worth.

I was actually hoping you'd pipe up, since legal work obviously has quite a few more costs involved than software development. But Global Megacorp pays for corporate cell phones, so that's one they're not paying.


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Fritzy! Fritzy! We need boom boom now!


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Irony of the Day:

Spoilered for broad generalizations:
GothBard and I were discussing recent events, U.S. history, and the fundamental idea that "Make America Great Again" translates to, "We want to restore America to its 1950s prosperity and world dominance."

Setting aside the difficulties of restoring a time when the U.S. controlled 90% of all manufacturing due to the devastation of World War 2, there was also the attitude epitomized by John F. Kennedy: "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

That was the nationwide attitude that made America "great".

And yet these very same people who long for 1950s America, when asked to wear a mask to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 to help restore the country, say, "No! I won't wear a mask! I don't want to!"

Yeah. So much for actually being willing to make America "great" again.

"I want America to be great again! I just don't want to have to sacrifice even a sliver of my own comfort or convenience to get there! Make it happen without my having to lift a finger and I'm all in!"

Grr...


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Freehold DM wrote:
Fritzy! Fritzy! We need boom boom now!

Er... for work-from-home expense discussions?


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NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Fritzy! Fritzy! We need boom boom now!
Er... for work-from-home expense discussions?

{shrugs} Math's insidious Evil takes many forms. All of which must be cleansed with fire.


NobodysHome wrote:


I was actually hoping you'd pipe up, since legal work obviously has quite a few more costs involved than software development. But Global Megacorp pays for corporate cell phones, so that's one they're not paying.

My firm is being polite about the consumables as well. They let you take home office printers/scanners if you felt you had a need. So far I have made two runs into the office and grabbed a few reams of paper, more correction tape reels, a few legal pads, a toner cartridge for the office printer I took.

I won't say it is a cost savings for me, but it is not a big enough line item to make a fuss about.

While I am a partner in the firm, I am not an equity partner. I am curious what the office shutdown has done to our overhead as a firm and what that means for our partner bonuses.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I'm working a block away from home today so it's definitely a good day.

And now it's time for another installment of "Bold Tales: The Legend of Yesterday"...

Co-worker 1: "Dude, Yesterday told me he had to use the bathroom and to stay put. Then he walked about a block away, went up to a house like he owned it, and just walked inside."

Co-worker 2: "No way, dude."

Co-worker 1: "Yes way, dude. Came back in a little bit eating a sandwich he'd made while he was there. Dude's got balls big as churchbells."

The first rule of captaining is to always cultivate an air of mystery.

That's why I loaded up my saw and a couple of blocks into a wheelbarrow and disappeared around the corner for a half hour.


Nylarthotep wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:


I was actually hoping you'd pipe up, since legal work obviously has quite a few more costs involved than software development. But Global Megacorp pays for corporate cell phones, so that's one they're not paying.

My firm is being polite about the consumables as well. They let you take home office printers/scanners if you felt you had a need. So far I have made two runs into the office and grabbed a few reams of paper, more correction tape reels, a few legal pads, a toner cartridge for the office printer I took.

I won't say it is a cost savings for me, but it is not a big enough line item to make a fuss about.

While I am a partner in the firm, I am not an equity partner. I am curious what the office shutdown has done to our overhead as a firm and what that means for our partner bonuses.

In our case, our employees are not allowed to print anything on a printer at home unless they have specific prior approval - usually sales, marketing, and legal people.

But, my division of the company handles a lot of patient info, so there's a lot of security and privacy issues we have to consider.


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Actual Pathfinder question (*gasp*): How does being a simulacrum affect CR?

The family game saw the party defeat a simulacrum of a green hag and we're actually using XP so I need to know what she was worth.

And, as an aside, yes I love my family game. They were fighting a quickling. As soon as GothBard heard, "tiny incredibly-fast fey" she summoned a giant frog. Yes, the frog tongued the quickling, the cad disarmed her, then the frog Smote Evil and Swallowed Whole.

Poor quickling!


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NobodysHome wrote:

Actual Pathfinder question (*gasp*): How does being a simulacrum affect CR?

The family game saw the party defeat a simulacrum of a green hag and we're actually using XP so I need to know what she was worth.

And, as an aside, yes I love my family game. They were fighting a quickling. As soon as GothBard heard, "tiny incredibly-fast fey" she summoned a giant frog. Yes, the frog tongued the quickling, the cad disarmed her, then the frog Smote Evil and Swallowed Whole.

Poor quickling!

Technically speaking, none. It's simply a spell used by the hag to good effect. Really no different than a summon monster spell according to the rules.


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NobodysHome wrote:

Actual Pathfinder question (*gasp*): How does being a simulacrum affect CR?

The family game saw the party defeat a simulacrum of a green hag and we're actually using XP so I need to know what she was worth.

And, as an aside, yes I love my family game. They were fighting a quickling. As soon as GothBard heard, "tiny incredibly-fast fey" she summoned a giant frog. Yes, the frog tongued the quickling, the cad disarmed her, then the frog Smote Evil and Swallowed Whole.

Poor quickling!

Whats a pathfinder?


Simulacrum? Oh, boy... Halve the CR would be a good start, though far from sure-fire method. For regular PCs, just recaulculate their CR basing it on their new level, though Cr calculation for characters is utter aurochcrap anyway.

For a more accurate estimated you could check the hit points, AC, attack bonuses, and average damage and compare it to the monster creation table and pick the most adequate CR, though it will often fail to take into account things unaffected by CR changes.

Green hag simulacrum seems like a CR 3 - above average AC, above average attack rolls, average damage, below the average hit points and saving throws. Saving throw DC for pyrotechnics happen to be average for CR 3 anyway.


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Vanykrye wrote:
Nylarthotep wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:


I was actually hoping you'd pipe up, since legal work obviously has quite a few more costs involved than software development. But Global Megacorp pays for corporate cell phones, so that's one they're not paying.

My firm is being polite about the consumables as well. They let you take home office printers/scanners if you felt you had a need. So far I have made two runs into the office and grabbed a few reams of paper, more correction tape reels, a few legal pads, a toner cartridge for the office printer I took.

I won't say it is a cost savings for me, but it is not a big enough line item to make a fuss about.

While I am a partner in the firm, I am not an equity partner. I am curious what the office shutdown has done to our overhead as a firm and what that means for our partner bonuses.

In our case, our employees are not allowed to print anything on a printer at home unless they have specific prior approval - usually sales, marketing, and legal people.

But, my division of the company handles a lot of patient info, so there's a lot of security and privacy issues we have to consider.

We have a lot of proprietary information and some may be subject to export control laws. But the dinosaurs (I put myself here) have a real need to have physical copies from which to work in many cases. So we are given discretion on what we print out. We have rules about disposal (shredding before recycling, never just in trash).

For example, until the firm pays for an ipad/tablet to do my patent drawings on, I will continue to do drawings by hand, scan them and send to the draftsperson. It is funny, my boss has pushed for me to switch over to doing drawings on an iPad, but shut up when I asked 'great, when are you buying me one and how big a data plan are you paying for?'


Or you could go the rigid GM route and, as Vany pointed out, count it as a spell and thus part of the creator's CR - and don't award experience until the creator is fully dealt with.


Vanykrye wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Actual Pathfinder question (*gasp*): How does being a simulacrum affect CR?

The family game saw the party defeat a simulacrum of a green hag and we're actually using XP so I need to know what she was worth.

And, as an aside, yes I love my family game. They were fighting a quickling. As soon as GothBard heard, "tiny incredibly-fast fey" she summoned a giant frog. Yes, the frog tongued the quickling, the cad disarmed her, then the frog Smote Evil and Swallowed Whole.

Poor quickling!

Technically speaking, none. It's simply a spell used by the hag to good effect. Really no different than a summon monster spell according to the rules.

This.

I might see it logical to make an exception for a simulacrum that's completely separate from the caster and acting as its own encounter, which this might qualify, and in that case would say it's worth XP as a creature of half the CR of the base creature since that's the power level a simulacrum has, with any necessary adjustments made from there.

But by pure RAW, it's a spell effect in action and nothing more, and thus provides no XP.


This is actually something I've had to ponder myself, as a free-roaming simulacrum of an otherwise high-CR fiend was a plot point and antagonist I have planned for one of the campaigns I'm writing.


I could have sworn there were rules for free roaming simulacrums(I love that term, btw). That may have been in 3.x, not pathfinder.


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Today's earworm: all this morning, my son was singing, "...and me and my true love will never meet again / on the bonnie, bonnie banks of Lothlorien."


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And as Drejk and Orthos point out - yeah, if ever there's room for an exception, it's simulacrum and clone.


I don't do simulacrum in my game, or dominate person or anything like that.

Terrible personal experiences and such.

Calm emotions is fine.


I tend to just grab one of the Bestiaries, pull a monster/monsters of the appropriate CR and throw 'em in the adventure. Occasionally if the monster is super inappropriate, say, a bog nixie in a desert (not at an oasis), I'll pick a different monster.

If said monster has Simulacrum, Charm Person, Dominate Person or whatever I'll use it. As such, at least through level 10 now, most fights don't see a full on spellcaster.


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The adventure I'm currently working on writing stars an ice based sorcerer as a primary antagonist who is heavily based on a PC played by an old college buddy of mine. His style had three main patterns: he liked summoning ice monsters, he liked transmutation spells based around manipulating ice and stone to shape the battlefield, and he liked making simulacra to do mundane jobs or to imitate him and the other party members when they were out of town so our business could keep running while we were away from HQ.

So it's somewhat a necessity to make use of it to stay true to the character. =)

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