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Cowboy Bebop was pretty great back in the day.

If you want generic Western fantasy anime, Record of Lodoss War is lovely. And generic. And I love it.

Hellsing was probably pretty good for what it was.

One Punch Man Season 1 was excellent. (Have not seen S2; have head bad things.)

I loved Gurren Lagan - I found it less a mockery of giant robots and more just a fun silly-awesome show that just happened to also have giant robots. I liked Kill la Kill better, though I genuinely can’t tell you why, as GL was probably the better show. I think it was the music, goofily enough.

I... really... like Full Metal Panic: all three of them (yes, that includes the nonsensical FUMOFU.)

I love Princess Tutu. No, I don’t care. Shut it. It’s badically perfect. I SAID NO I DONT CARE.


I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT PRINCESS TUTU, OKAY

(But I am still dressed.)


NobodysHome wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:


[Death Note] is just unpleasant to watch over-all. Everyone was dumb, especially the geniuses.

That's a frequent complaint from GothBard: Series where someone is supposed to be a "super genius", but the writers aren't, and the character ends up being either:

(a) Dumb as a sack of bricks
(b) A miracle of, "I figured out this impossible thing because smart," with no reasonable explanation.

But yeah, Death Note was similar for us: The first few episodes were a marvelous play on, "What is morality?", then ran out of steam, decided, "This guy is irrevocably evil, this guy is xxx, this guy is yyy," and everything became clear-cut, black-and-white, and boring.

Yeah. And I have no problem with the writer not being as smart as the character, but that just means you have to build clues - a sudden revelation that the audience can not relate to means little and it gets old quickly, if over used (and it often is).

It’s funny - Death Note keeps getting more disappointing the more time I have between me and the show.


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Chief Engineer Yesterday wrote:
"Won't ride up!" The underwear package lied.

Ja ja, der üntervherpakagelied!

*Ahem*

O, schmerz!
O, schmerz!

In meinen bümkrak ist die briefen,
Ist die brie-hie-hie-hie-hie-hiefen,
Der Calvin Klein briefen,
Die brie-hie-hie-hie-hie-hiefen,
In mienen bümmenkrakschaft ist, o schmerz!

Ich das bär schaven mit ein skidloaderkraftenwägon,
Ich debendöwer für schavenfoamdegang das bär,
Und in bümmenkrak ridesch up die untervhere, o schmer-her-her-her-herherherherher heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer,

herz!


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Re:Zero was actually really really good.

I’ve not seen all of FMA (Brotherhood or otherwise) - only snippets.

I’ve not seen Trigun or Shield Hero or My Hero Academia. Or Goblin Slayer. Sorry, world.

I loved That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime; the first teeeen? episodes of Overlord (up to about where he fights the one as if a video game boss - there weren’t more episodes available at the time, so that’s all I’ve seen, though I hear it degrades), and Sword Art Online (the second one nearly ruined things, but forewarned was forearmed and I was able to push through it and enjoy the rest of the series, though it’s not as good as the first, and two borders on unforgivable sins).

Inuyasha was pretty decent for what it was, if plodding at times.

Because <Reasons> I am unable to watch Ruroni Kenshin. I will not share those reasons, as I don’t want to remove the ability to enjoy from others.

Hero =/= Mask is hard to recommend. It’s pretty good if it’s on the background while you do other stuff, but somewhat plodding when you sit to focus on it - at least it was for me! Was not happy about some events, but I can’t say it was poorly done... though that might have been because I wasn’t paying enough attention, so.

Why am I talking about random anime at this point? I’unno. I like anime.

Also Avatar the Last Airbender is anime, don’t care, don’t “@“ me. Love you all, though.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Re:Zero was actually really really good.

It's amazing to me how many people have never heard of that series. Everyone I know who's seen it other than Freehold love it and put it in their top 10.

Tacticslion wrote:
I’ve not seen all of FMA (Brotherhood or otherwise) - only snippets.

Never did anything for us. We tried multiple times to watch multiple incarnations, and none of us liked it.

Tacticslion wrote:
I’ve not seen Trigun or Shield Hero or My Hero Academia. Or Goblin Slayer. Sorry, world.

LOVED Trigun. Jury is out on Shield Hero. My Hero Academia is typical anime: Nice idea, well-built in the first season, then a whole, "Wow! This is a money-maker! Let's make it interminable by writing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again and the fans will LOVE it!"

Stopped watching it, needless to say.

Don't bother with Goblin Slayer. It's a so-so series whose claim to fame is an appalling, stomach-turning first episode pretty much designed to offend people.

Tacticslion wrote:
I loved That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime;

Yes. A delightfully over-the-top, silly series.

Tacticslion wrote:
Sword Art Online (the second one nearly ruined things, but forewarned was forearmed and I was able to push through it and enjoy the rest of the series, though it’s not as good as the first, and two borders on unforgivable sins).

We didn't consider it "bordering on". We considered turning the badass female protagonist into a helpless sex slave/rescue McGuffin to be so beyond taste that we refuse to watch any more. And no, I'm not spoilering it, because that's what they do and it's unforgivable and people should know.

Tacticslion wrote:
Also Avatar the Last Airbender is anime, don’t care, don’t “@“ me.

LOVED it. Own the whole set on DVD.


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Time for me to tune out.


captain yesterday wrote:
Time for me to tune out.

Tune out the conversation here, or what’s happening at work?


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It's been a long time since I've actually watched anything new.

Of those I've actually finished, I think my top 5 would be FMA Brotherhood, Princess Tutu, Baccano!, Cowboy Bebop, and Gurren Lagann.

Irresponsible Captain Tylor, Rurouni Kenshin, Yu Yu Hakusho, and Sailor Moon are up there (I never saw all of SM, so can't count it). Also enjoyed Azumanga Daioh and Silver Spoon. One I wish I'd gotten around to finishing was Nodame Cantabile. Started watching it, really liked it, got busy and forgot.

I don't think I've actually seen all of Trigun. Saw bits and pieces on Toonami, liked what I saw.


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Woran wrote:
Ive only ever seen Gundam Wing

fills bottles with tears, mails to Deathquaker


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captain yesterday wrote:
I've never seen Gundam.

fills extra bottle with tears, slaps "private reserve" in label, mails to Deathquaker on her birthday


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Freehold DM wrote:
Scintillae wrote:
I have never been able to watch a Gundam series without losing interest. I have no idea why. But I've tried to watch a few several times...and it's a testament to how well that worked out that I can't even remember which ones.

watch gundam the origin. It is on cartoon network right now. It is an EXCELLENT jumping on point.

Mangawise, Gundam Thunderbolt is pretty freaking awesome. The art is VERY ink-heavy though, so keep that in mind, there are some volumes that take just a few minutes to read because there isnt a lot of conversation but a lot of GORGEOUS artwork, the pictures of the Nayang Brotherhood territories were breathtaking and made me want to tour the area in real life.

I'm...not really sure how it's going to be any different than the other several times I've tried to watch a Gundam. I don't even have anything against the franchise; I just cannot watch it for reasons I've never been able to actually articulate to myself.

I've had the same problem with the Kingkiller Chronicles. I got a copy of Wise Man's Fear at a library sale for a dollar. I have tried upwards of a dozen times to read it. I have never gotten past the prologue without dissociating hard and realizing I haven't absorbed a word. I have no idea why it happens, but I've at this point accepted that the book is never getting read.


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Tacticslion wrote:

08th MS Team Gundam as of Cartoon Network was really good, right up until the last episode decided, “well, we need to end it, now; BIG BOSS/WEAPONS FROM NOWHERE!”

(Kind of typical for anime at times.)

It wouldn't be gundam if zeon didnt attempt to fix all their problems with a mobile armor. It just wouldn't be.

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Still remains my favorite of the various ones I’ve seen because of its much more grounded (by comparison) approach, and its pretty high on the lost of anime I’ve seen that I like.

Apparently there are some episodes missing, though that would both have rounded out the ending story (making it better) and wrecked characterization and/or character growth (and/or contains other elements that aren’t a great conversation topic?), though this is strictly hearsay on my part.

Were you watching it on toonami? Never trust toonami, they have gotten MUCH better in recent years but back in the day they dropped stuff from time to time.

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I liked some of other Gundam stuff. The rest isn’t really high on my list, though; not really knocking it, just not what I want to spend my time watching.

As an aside, strictly in my opinion: Evangeleon, Code Geass, and Death Note are... not great. Not terrible, but not great.

E is just... it’s a mess. They all are, but this one more so. Also I didn’t like the characters much (some were pretty good, but eeeeehhhhh.)

DN is just unpleasant to watch over-all. Everyone was dumb, especially the geniuses.

CG at least I liked the characters, but the final plot/plan was just duuuuuuuumb.

Evangelion is not for everyone. It is one of the first anime I say falls squarely into that category.

Death Note must be read, not watched. I have watched the anime in full thanks to Sharoth and...animated it doesnt work. Even reading it you need a healthy background and love of the stereotypical hard boiled japanese detective story to get the kind of tropes the series is turning on its ear. Otherwise it's going to seem strange, and everyone is going to seem...
Well, dumb.

Code Geass is...well, it's own thing. Fans of the series are as tightly focused upon it as I am upon (true) Gundam, and understand/agree the series flips tropes and is kind of in its own little world. It is similar to another anime that I can't remember that is a retelling of Mobile Suit Gundam with a very...modern...cast and aesthetic that only succeeded in alienating the people they were trying to reach(although they created their own fans).

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(I also didn’t care for No Game, No Life - it has good parts and some of it is genuinely funny, and I even liked some of the characters... but it just kinda meh’d out my interest as it kept on, and the little sister was a big ol’ NOPE.jiffy-right-out for me.)

Not a fan of that series either. It turns me off in a weird, weird way.


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Why NobodysHome Will Never Make It In Marketing:

Marketing Division: Our priority #1 is now to delight our customers!
NobodysHome: No; our priority should be to provide efficient, bug-free software that enables our customers to outperform our competition. Until we achieve that, we're doing nothing but putting lipstick on a pig.
MD: You are not a team player! You're part of the problem, not the solution!

Yeah, I could design business software that did nothing but run mini-games off of every page, with a quick "boss mode" so employees could hide that they weren't actually getting anything done. And I'm sure it would "delight my customers".
But it wouldn't be a useful piece of software.


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Tacticslion wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Time for me to tune out.
Tune out the conversation here, or what’s happening at work?

If I tune out at work people get hurt.

Anime, manga, I don't follow any of it.

Go nuts and all but I'll be skimming.

Besides, I'm laying pavers today.


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I've also never seen a single episode of Gundam Anything.

I did watch Last Hope on Netflix. It was mostly ok.


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NobodysHome wrote:

LOLOLOL! Oh, how wrong I was.

Impus Minor: Why do we have to do Ashland?
NobodysHome: Because I think it's worth having you see your cousins and uncle once in a while.
IM: But I hate them all!
NH: Ooooooh... kaaaay... Well, Impus Major, how do you feel about them?
Impus Major: I find it... interesting to see them once in a while...

I guess we won't be going up north all that often any more after all!

So, as a follow-up, we made our reservations on Saturday and let the group know.

The rest of the group has been arguing via email since then about lodgings.

The mind quails.


Tacticslion wrote:
Sword Art Online (the second one nearly ruined things, but forewarned was forearmed and I was able to push through it and enjoy the rest of the series, though it’s not as good as the first, and two borders on unforgivable sins).
NobodysHome wrote:
We didn't consider it "bordering on". We considered turning the badass female protagonist into a helpless sex slave/rescue McGuffin to be so beyond taste that we refuse to watch any more. And no, I'm not spoilering it, because that's what they do and it's unforgivable and people should know.

I don't feel the same way, but only because I went in knowing what would happen in advance. I strongly suspect that had I walked in blind I would have felt the same way.

That said, three bad things and why I was able to go through with it:

1) Though she was badly treated, she was never broken by her experiences (despite the entire season basically being about the villain attempting to do exactly that).

2) I do not condone or approve of how they handled things nor what they put her through. It did not break me on the series only because I was aware of what was (and what was not) going to happen. I am putting further discussion in spoilers.

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Then only way that I powered through it was that I was informed that Asuna was never actually physically raped. That is... an exceptionally low bar, but it allowed me to suppress the gag reflex long enough for the escape to happen.

Frankly, while there is some merit to the conceit, the execution was terrible in all ways, and isn't worthwhile. Poorly designed. Poorly executed.

That Asuna was chosen is... eh. It's neither a reasonable nor unreasonable choice - while not inherently valuable, it's also not inherently a bad choice.

The way it was handled was execrable. It could have been worse - even much worse - but that isn't an excuse for what it did.

That she was assaulted/molested twice is, in fact unconscionable. It would not be good, regardless (because it's unnecessary), but it's even worse because it's of no narrative importance, and, more, it's not even a comprehensible series of events.

The first event (by a weird purple slug creature) is just... what? What is the creature?
- Is it a human projecting into the machine? If so, why are they slugs?
- Is it an AI? If so, why would it bother?

It is narratively confusing and it makes no internal sense. The situation was never clarified, making it even more obscure. It also would have ended even worse had it not been interrupted for nonsensical reasons... but the entire situation was nonsensical so being interrupted for nonsense means nothing in particular. Effectively it was terrible and unnecessary and the worse of the two.

The second event is arguably less awful (as it served a narrative and extra-narrative purpose, both in-character and out-), and, again, it could have been much worse... but it is also, functionally, unnecessary. Effectively it's there for three quasi-legitimate reasons:

- 1) to make the audience hate the villain (unnecessary, but legitimate)

- 2) the villain taunting the hero to throw him off his game (actually a legitimate reason in-character)

- 3) to help the hero and the audience to understand the stakes (also a legitimate reason, but functionally unnecessary)

The ultimate problem is that none of these are necessary. None of them. We already hate the villain, we should already understand the stakes. The villain could have achieved the same thing with less... ah... aggressive?... flare (and it arguably would have fit with the characterization better).

Effectively, it was all terrible and needless.

3) Unrelated to Asuna, but also bad, but able to be powered through: the thing with the sister was just... neeeeeeeeeeedless. It's always the sister. I don't... I just... ugh.
The saving grace of this is that he is absolutely not interested.

Anyway, it's not good, and I'll never say it is. It's needless and bad and awful. I'm glad I saw most of it, though, and, knowing what did (and even more importantly, what did not) happen in advance, I was able to move through it. The rest has been a more-or-less enjoyable series. (Including, refreshingly, Asuna effectively surpassing Kirito's swordplay in one series.)


captain yesterday wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Time for me to tune out.
Tune out the conversation here, or what’s happening at work?

If I tune out at work people get hurt.

Anime, manga, I don't follow any of it.

Go nuts and all but I'll be skimming.

Besides, I'm laying pavers today.

Cool beans! Be safe!


Scintillae wrote:

It's been a long time since I've actually watched anything new.

Of those I've actually finished, I think my top 5 would be FMA Brotherhood, Princess Tutu, Baccano!, Cowboy Bebop, and Gurren Lagann.

Irresponsible Captain Tylor, Rurouni Kenshin, Yu Yu Hakusho, and Sailor Moon are up there (I never saw all of SM, so can't count it). Also enjoyed Azumanga Daioh and Silver Spoon. One I wish I'd gotten around to finishing was Nodame Cantabile. Started watching it, really liked it, got busy and forgot.

I don't think I've actually seen all of Trigun. Saw bits and pieces on Toonami, liked what I saw.

AAAAHHHHHH

How could I forget Silver Spoon! Love that needless little anime!


Unrelated to Anime - I don't know if I love Jessica Jones or hate Jessica Jones right now.

NEVERMIND - kiiiiiiiiiind of hating it.
(For the same reason I kind of hated part of Season 4 of Sherlock.)

Spoiler:
Look, spouses - or, I guess SO's in the case of Malcolm - being unfaithful is just something I'm not into. It rankles and makes me kind of gag.

I get it. I really do. I understand it.

But I also hate it and hate watching it.

It's much like the "Liar Revealed" trope (and several others; Asuna's situation is there, too, for the record), however - both of them just frustrate me to no end (not the "being revealed" part: the dumb part where they put themselves in that situation).

At least in Sherlock S4 they had good character growth. Was it worth it? No. No it was not. I didn't like it. Still don't. But it had good character growth.

JJ is well-written enough that I expect it will at least do something positive. But I don't like it happening. It is bothersome in the extreme.


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gran rey de los mono wrote:

A newsboy was standing on the corner with a stack of papers, yelling, “Read all about it. Fifty people swindled! Fifty people swindled!”

Curious, a man walked over, bought a paper, and checked the front page. Finding nothing, the man said, “There’s nothing in here about fifty people being swindled.”

The newsboy ignored him and went on, calling out, “Read all about it. Fifty-one people swindled!”

I knew that sounded familiar...


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Freehold DM wrote:
Woran wrote:
Ive only ever seen Gundam Wing
fills bottles with tears, mails to Deathquaker

1d4 ⇒ 1 ice weasels kinda want to open a restaurant named Gundam Wild Wings now.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:


[Death Note] is just unpleasant to watch over-all. Everyone was dumb, especially the geniuses.

That's a frequent complaint from GothBard: Series where someone is supposed to be a "super genius", but the writers aren't, and the character ends up being either:

(a) Dumb as a sack of bricks
(b) A miracle of, "I figured out this impossible thing because smart," with no reasonable explanation.

But yeah, Death Note was similar for us: The first few episodes were a marvelous play on, "What is morality?", then ran out of steam, decided, "This guy is irrevocably evil, this guy is xxx, this guy is yyy," and everything became clear-cut, black-and-white, and boring.

again, it is a take on a very specific genre. I am not saying you MUST LOVE IT- it isn't Gundam, after all- but without the background in the genre it is going to seem...odd. reading it is much better than watching it.


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Tacticslion wrote:

Unrelated to Anime - I don't know if I love Jessica Jones or hate Jessica Jones right now.

NEVERMIND - kiiiiiiiiiind of hating it.
(For the same reason I kind of hated part of Season 4 of Sherlock.)

** spoiler omitted **

Yeah

Torchwood Spoiler:

The moment the female protagonist in Torchwood started having an affair with the jerk, we turned it off and never looked back. Even in gritty series some walls are just too much.


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So, I work in publication: We have very strict standards on language, formatting, templates, and so forth.

Yet we have never fired someone for using the wrong template, nor would we. It's just not a big deal. "Hey, you used the wrong template. Next time use this one, OK?"
It wouldn't be a serious issue until the person had failed to listen over and over and over again.

And yet many teachers take the (in my opinion unforgivable) opposite tack:
One of Impus Major's friends is taking an English class from an instructor who said, "Be sure to follow the MLA Formatting Guidelines."

He did... except he printed his paper double-sided. Notice that in the guidelines there's no reference to single vs. double-sided. His instructor told him he'd failed to follow the guidelines and gave him a dead-up 0 on his paper.

In terms of firable offenses, that instructor would not be long in my department...


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Yeah, that's...no.

I actually didn't know about the single/double-sided thing, and all I got was 5 points deducted from my grade over it when I did that

I'm kind of surprised it wasn't just a digital submission anyway with the focus on paperless these days.


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The fact that the top of my "cartoons about giant robots" list goes:

1. Beast Wars
2. Gurren Lagann
3. Megas XLR

pretty much explains why I'm fairly meh on Gundam.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Cowboy Bebop was pretty great back in the day and into the future.

FIFY

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If you want generic Western fantasy anime, Record of Lodoss War is lovely. And generic. And I love it.

Yup.

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Hellsing was probably pretty good for what it was.

hands award to Hellsing for Throughly Okay 1997

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One Punch Man Season 1 was excellent. (Have not seen S2; have head bad things.)

You misspelled Mumen Rider.

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I loved Gurren Lagan - I found it less a mockery of giant robots and more just a fun silly-awesome show that just happened to also have giant robots. I liked Kill la Kill better, though I genuinely can’t tell you why, as GL was probably the better show. I think it was the music, goofily enough.

It isn't a mockery, it is a genuine deconstruction of the super robot genre specifically.

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I... really... like Full Metal Panic: all three of them (yes, that includes the nonsensical FUMOFU.)

There is only one Full Metal Panic, and that is MADOX-01.

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I love Princess Tutu. No, I don’t care. Shut it. It’s badically perfect. I SAID NO I DONT CARE.

If you dont love princess tutu, something is wrong with you.


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Now it's time for the chop saw.


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... hm.

Erm.

Mm.

*breathes*

Re: Jessica Jones

No, nope, not a chance; the good guys made a bad call:

There are some lines that comic heroes don't cross... and sometimes that's wrong.

The Joker isn't killed because, "it's not moral."

This is malarkey. It is nonsense. It is stupid.

There is plenty of evidence that the Joker kills people. There comes a point at which returning him to places which he has escaped (multiple times!) is, itself, the immoral action. And that line was crossed long, long, long ago. Effectively, Batman (any everyone else) is (unwillingly!) complicit in the Joker's murder, because they do not take the measures necessary to stop him.

In Jessica Jones the situation is murkier. Much murkier.

They believe they have evidence that will put the bad guy away for good.

But they are relying on a process that has the potential to fail. And if it does fail, it will fail hard enough that it is no longer possible to stop him. The man has murdered, and this is not a question. He will do so again.

... that said... I can see how saving the monster's life might, in fact, have prevented murder charges being brought against one of the good guys. But it also likely puts a murderer back on the street. Right away? No. But there are certain levels of danger - and certain actions so evil - that it goes beyond the pale to fail to prevent that evil again.

I... understand why JJ did what she did. But she was wrong. She didn't prevent Patsy from being a murderer. It's just... it's the wrong call. And the actual murderer is likely going to get free.

EDIT: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand Patsy was actually correct again. UGH.


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Re: character deaths in comics.

The main reason comics either have the protagonist be against killing the villains or have easy access to regeneration/resurrection is basically because killing someone off For Good removes a piece from the board, reducing the available resources for telling stories in that world and preventing further future storylines involving that character.

It does run a bit up against suspension of disbelief in that in-universe of course the goal would be never to see that villain again, as it would mean they no longer were committing crimes and causing harm, but that conflicts with the IRL goals of building up and building on fan interest in and appreciation for the villain, making future stories to sell, and keeping reader interest.


Orthos wrote:

Re: character deaths in comics.

The main reason comics either have the protagonist be against killing the villains or have easy access to regeneration/resurrection is basically because killing someone off For Good removes a piece from the board, reducing the available resources for telling stories in that world and preventing further future storylines involving that character.

It does run a bit up against suspension of disbelief in that in-universe of course the goal would be never to see that villain again, as it wpuld mean they no longer were commuting crimes and causing harm, but that conflicts with the IRL goals of building up and building on fan interest in and appreciation for the villain, making future stories to sell, and keeping reader interest.

As a comics fan I am far and away aware of the meta-reasons. It doesn't alter the fact that, in-character, the supposedly-moral characters in question are ultimately being ruinous to the people they share the world with for the satisfaction of feeling "righteous."

I'm not anti-Batman. And various iterations actually work on this well. But the over-all gist creates a moral dissonance far worse than the image the comics actually want to create.

As an aside, this is one of the reasons Wolverine is widely accepted as a good guy by comic community folks - he actually does try to permanently end those who can't be reintegrated into society. It... doesn't always work, but he certainly does better than many.

I'm not against comics. I still love them. It's a bit of meta-fictional conceit that ultimately creates a moral dissonance with the intended result. Then again, we also read stories about at least five people who gain super powers from radiation, more from people who gain it by random mutation, and some that pretend to by sci-fi, emphasize the "fi."
(I mean, Star Trek is dubious science at best via handwavium "technobable" but at least it has reasons inertia doesn't flatten everyone to a pancake.)

But the thing about comics is an aside to the main point.

See, a serialized show like Jessica Jones doesn't have the same requirements as the comics. This makes the situation even worse in-character and out-of-it.

Is the context different? Yes. And it plays out quite differently in its own way. But it's problematic in its own way - even moreso.


Tacticslion wrote:
Re:Zero was actually really really good.

I don't hate it. It's okay. Lots of good cosplay, acceptable H out of the series.

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I’ve not seen all of FMA (Brotherhood or otherwise) - only snippets.

You are robbing yourself. Watch the show.

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I’ve not seen Trigun or Shield Hero or My Hero Academia. Or Goblin Slayer. Sorry, world.

Trigun is meh. Shield Hero is okay so long as you avoid filler episodes. My Hero Academia is similar. Goblin Slayer is...disappointing, for reasons similar to what NH posited but not exactly the same for me. It falls into the "I've seen better" category.

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I loved That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime; the first teeeen? episodes of Overlord (up to about where he fights the one as if a video game boss - there weren’t more episodes available at the time, so that’s all I’ve seen, though I hear it degrades), and Sword Art Online (the second one nearly ruined things, but forewarned was forearmed and I was able to push through it and enjoy the rest of the series, though it’s not as good as the first, and two borders on unforgivable sins).

TTIGRAAS is okay. Very cheesecakey, though. It has a lot of easily accessible in jokes, which is good.

The wheels fall off of Overlord after a while. It is essentially a power fantasy, and that is okay in limited doses. But the show shows no signs of ending soon, which is the problem.
But it has TONS of H that keep the fanbase happy.

SAO has a pretty awful cultural plot twist in the second season that the instant I saw I KNEW was going to be translated/localized as something truly monstrous once it hit American shores which would devastate and divide the fan base, and I was not disappointed there at all.

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Inuyasha was pretty decent for what it was, if plodding at times.

I worship at the altar of Rumiko Takahashi-o-sensei; only Tomino-o-sensei is more respected. I will read ANYTHING she makes into the most OBSCURE STUFF IMAGINABLE(One Pound Gospel, ALLLLLLLLLLL of Mermaid's Scar, Rumik World, Laughing Target, etc), when she passes(she is getting up there in age) I will take time off of work to mourn, because without her, I would not be here having this conversation with you. Ranma 1/2 remains the ultimate sex comedy(in a classical definition of the phrase), and I am waiting to get ALL of it on BLU-RAY because something that pivotal needs to be on BLU-RAY. That and EVERY SINGLE SONG from the series, even the background music, was CLASSIC. It was the first VHS I ever bought, and I got a cassette of the first soundtrack created for the series.

I have NO idea how it would be accepted by fans if it was made today. The series helped many of my non heterosexual friends deal with what was going on at the time.

I also love Shampoo more than life itself.

That said, I strangely didnt care for Inuyasha. But I welcome all fans of that show as brothers and sisters who love Rumiko Takahashi-o-sensei.

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Because <Reasons> I am unable to watch Ruroni Kenshin. I will not share those reasons, as I don’t want to remove the ability to enjoy from others.

painful, painful situation there. I know people who burned their stuff, or left anime behind forever. The character went from one of the most cosplayed characters ever to...GONE, overnight.

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Also Avatar the Last Airbender is anime, don’t care, don’t “@“ me. Love you all, though.

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Unrelated to that sort of media, the game Jeanne d'Arc seems to have been almost entirely forgotten by the internet.

It's a fun game.

If I had to summarize in a slightly sarcastic way, I'd call it, "Baby's first FFT."

Don't get me wrong, it's actually not a bad game. It's an easy game, for what it is. It's an FFT-alike (and very, very clearly intentionally so, too) hypothetically made up of a fantasy-variant of the story of Joan of Arc. Very, very, very fantasy.

ANYway. It's rather easy.

> Step one: find "random" battles (they are not random - they are always the same, and you opt into them only by choice)

> Step two: get the battle down to a fine science with the straight-forward AI

> Step three: grind those gears! ... i.e. level up to taste (hint: you'll want to level to level <[chapter number]*10)+[chapter number*2]> to more-or-less pass for the rest of the chapter because the enemy levels are static for a given battle type

> Step four: do whatever you really want to do and follow the fictional variant of the story

Also, the armlet's ability "Godspeed" ability is stupendously broken-powerful. Look, I loved T.G. Cid equipped with Excalibur in FFT. Loved him. Mustadio was a beautiful thing. Calculators were delightful. Etc.

BUT

This is a little silly. It's like Great Cleave, except instead of just getting another attack you get another attack AND another move. It's kind of beautiful.


Anyway, back to grinding out levels for evil-coded spear wielder ally.


Oh! I do miss the ability to recruit bad guys.

Also I miss the class-changing. So much.

EDIT: Uh, that... was an unclear statement.


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Hello, everyone.


Hello!


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Doing okay, TL?


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Tacticslion wrote:

Unrelated to that sort of media, the game Jeanne d'Arc seems to have been almost entirely forgotten by the internet.

It's a fun game.

If I had to summarize in a slightly sarcastic way, I'd call it, "Baby's first FFT."

Don't get me wrong, it's actually not a bad game. It's an easy game, for what it is. It's an FFT-alike (and very, very clearly intentionally so, too) hypothetically made up of a fantasy-variant of the story of Joan of Arc. Very, very, very fantasy.
ANYway. It's rather easy.

> Step one: find "random" battles (they are not random - they are always the same, and you opt into them only by choice)

> Step two: get the battle down to a fine science with the straight-forward AI

> Step three: grind those gears! ... i.e. level up to taste (hint: you'll want to level to level <[chapter number]*10)+[chapter number*2]> to more-or-less pass for the rest of the chapter because the enemy levels are static for a given battle type

> Step four: do whatever you really want to do and follow the fictional variant of the story

Also, the armlet's ability "Godspeed" ability is stupendously broken-powerful. Look, I loved T.G. Cid equipped with Excalibur in FFT. Loved him. Mustadio was a beautiful thing. Calculators were delightful. Etc.

BUT

This is a little silly. It's like Great Cleave, except instead of just getting another attack you get another attack AND another move. It's kind of beautiful.

what platform is this for?

Love mustadio!!!


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Dammit I am now blasting Ranma 1/2 endings at work because of you, Tacticslion!

Without words, your hand in mine's enough....


John Napier 698 wrote:
Doing okay, TL?

Basically! You?


Freehold DM wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

Unrelated to that sort of media, the game Jeanne d'Arc seems to have been almost entirely forgotten by the internet.

It's a fun game.

If I had to summarize in a slightly sarcastic way, I'd call it, "Baby's first FFT."

Don't get me wrong, it's actually not a bad game. It's an easy game, for what it is. It's an FFT-alike (and very, very clearly intentionally so, too) hypothetically made up of a fantasy-variant of the story of Joan of Arc. Very, very, very fantasy.
ANYway. It's rather easy.

> Step one: find "random" battles (they are not random - they are always the same, and you opt into them only by choice)

> Step two: get the battle down to a fine science with the straight-forward AI

> Step three: grind those gears! ... i.e. level up to taste (hint: you'll want to level to level <[chapter number]*10)+[chapter number*2]> to more-or-less pass for the rest of the chapter because the enemy levels are static for a given battle type

> Step four: do whatever you really want to do and follow the fictional variant of the story

Also, the armlet's ability "Godspeed" ability is stupendously broken-powerful. Look, I loved T.G. Cid equipped with Excalibur in FFT. Loved him. Mustadio was a beautiful thing. Calculators were delightful. Etc.

BUT

This is a little silly. It's like Great Cleave, except instead of just getting another attack you get another attack AND another move. It's kind of beautiful.

what platform is this for?

Love mustadio!!!

It's for the PSP. The screen was waaaaaayyyyyyyy too small, though.

I have the cartridge right here, and the PSP, too, but I'm emulating it, and it's lovely to have a larger screen.

I like the game quite a bit.

It is not as good as FFT, but it sure does take a lot of highly intentional inspiration from it. It is much simpler, easier, and straight-forward. I wish it had more customization. I am enjoying relatively well.

(Love for Mustadio, so much.)


Freehold DM wrote:

Dammit I am now blasting Ranma 1/2 endings at work because of you, Tacticslion!

Without words, your hand in mine's enough....

???

... never read it. Alas.


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I didn't care for Inuyasha. Ranma didn't interest me at all.


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Scintillae wrote:
I didn't care for Inuyasha. Ranma didn't interest me at all.

...Laughing Target, maybe?


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Look if Inuyasha can throw diamond spears that also can open holes in spacetime, I don't see why I can't like it. :p


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Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

Dammit I am now blasting Ranma 1/2 endings at work because of you, Tacticslion!

Without words, your hand in mine's enough....

???

... never read it. Alas.

Ranma is a GREAT manga, but the anime was truly ahead of it's time on many levels. Give it a watch, it is on hulu.


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The only thing that I'm finding of interest right now is getting out of the office.

My tolerance level for stupid has dropped to an all-time low.

Yesterday someone hit the intersection between our office and the county courthouse at nearly 60mph. Hit nobody, thankfully, but still ended up with the car sitting on the driver side doors, a traffic signal pole snapped off and drastically bent in 5 or 6 places...pieces of debris everywhere.

On her phone, staring down, as she entered the intersection, according to local witnesses.

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