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Kjeldorn wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:

So I've been feverishly translating my thoughts on D&D classes into, well, D&Dish classes.

The fighter is super-simple, for use as goons and players who just wanna chuck d20s and damage dice.

The berserker and the champion are pretty simple too, just a touch of daily resource management to liven things up.

...And then there is my fever-dream, the martial artist. (Pic picked bc the class lends itself to Dex-primary characters. And also TOZ. ;) ) No, not the asian kind in particular -- I just couldn't find a better word for warrior-who-makes-tactical-art-out-of-combat. The martial artist has both stances -- improvements on standard attack options that would be feats like Combat Expertise in D&D -- and an opening-move closing-move dynamic to break up the monotony of martial attack spam, and give martial players some really fun stuff to do.

I don't know if this class is madness or genius, but I'm really hoping I'll get to see what players do with it someday. :)

Oh! not quite what I was expecting!

What were you expecting, if you don't mind putting it into words? I want to be able to finish the sentence "I wrote this game and it's like D&D, except...", in order to set players' expectations.

Good point, I'll have to write a sample character or two at some point to illustrate how I intend things to work.

Glad you like what the martial artist looks like, it means I'm at least aiming for something that some players are going to want!

Otherwise, yeah I agree the other martial classes are pretty bland. The fighter by intent, but the berserker...yeah. I mean I'd love to at least throw an extra rage per day at them every few levels, similar to 3.0/5, for those fun power spikes that players look forward to. But that creates the problem of encounter-escalation -- I as DM now need to throw more and more encounters per day at the PCs as they gain levels, otherwise rage and similar abilities functionally become at-will at high levels.


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...I'm sure you weren't expecting me to be naked. Well, lessons learned.

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No one expects the naked Tequilia Sunrise =P

Kjeldorn, if the horses use you like a scratching post, they like you?

I am a creature of habit and structure, but I'm also curious and nosy.

Mao?

Captain yesterday - have you ever been kicked in the head by a horse?


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Even if it isn't cursed, a monkey's paw is still a terrible gift.


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If you lend someone $20 and never see them again, it was probably money well spent.


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If you believe that the quickest way to a man's heart is through the stomach, then just know that you are aiming too high.

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gran rey de los mono wrote:
Even if it isn't cursed, a monkey's paw is still a terrible gift.

Don't say stuff like that. I'd eat it.

Yum yum!

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gran rey de los mono wrote:
If you lend someone $20 and never see them again, it was probably money well spent.

Yes, on a lesson that the person isn't someone to be trusted.

I've been nephew sitting so yup crappy activity.


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See I can never tell if the jokes are going over mort's head or if she is the perfect straight"man"(cat, woman)

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gran rey de los mono wrote:
If you believe that the quickest way to a man's heart is through the stomach, then just know that you are aiming too high.

The stomach quite some way below the heart, so you're aiming too low. If you were stabbing upwards, the better way would between the ribs. Less distance to cover.


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XD See what I mean^

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I'm a practical cat?


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and quite a bit innocent as well.

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Sorta =) I'm Fluffy!


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*pat pat* Good kitty


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*yawn*


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Now I've heard that seeing someone yawn can make you want to yawn to but explain to me how me reading that just made me yawn.


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You're weak-willed and easily manipulated?

Now give me some money.


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DOOM admires your moxy but will destroy you.


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Just a Mort wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
Even if it isn't cursed, a monkey's paw is still a terrible gift.

Don't say stuff like that. I'd eat it.

Yum yum!

holds down gorge


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Just a Mort wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
If you believe that the quickest way to a man's heart is through the stomach, then just know that you are aiming too high.
The stomach quite some way below the heart, so you're aiming too low. If you were stabbing upwards, the better way would between the ribs. Less distance to cover.

so cute...

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It says so here!

My knowledge about human anatomy came mostly from Body worlds though.

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
*pat pat* Good kitty

*purrs*


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Vidmaster7 wrote:
Now I've heard that seeing someone yawn can make you want to yawn to but explain to me how me reading that just made me yawn.

Drejk has a feat allowing him to project his weariness through his draconic fear aura... which...

...hmmm, making the adventuring party drowsy through an aura instead of afraid would likely be something they didn't prep for.


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
Now I've heard that seeing someone yawn can make you want to yawn to but explain to me how me reading that just made me yawn.

Drejk has a feat allowing him to project his weariness through his draconic fear aura... which...

...hmmm, making the adventuring party drowsy through an aura instead of afraid would likely be something they didn't prep for.

waves of exhaustion?


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gran rey de los mono wrote:

You're weak-willed and easily manipulated?

Now give me some money.

*pulls out a wallet*

Wait a minute!


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Ha! I don't prep for anything!


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
Now I've heard that seeing someone yawn can make you want to yawn to but explain to me how me reading that just made me yawn.

Drejk has a feat allowing him to project his weariness through his draconic fear aura... which...

...hmmm, making the adventuring party drowsy through an aura instead of afraid would likely be something they didn't prep for.

If this doesn't already exist as a feat or special variant ability, it should.


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Just a Mort wrote:


Kjeldorn, if the horses use you like a scratching post, they like you?

As with almost everything to do with horses...

Yes they probably like you, Its horse-to-human speak saying: "I wantz hindquarters scratchings plz"
Though them trying to crush you against a wall or similar hard object shouldn't be discounted though ^^'.

Tequila Sunrise wrote:

What were you expecting, if you don't mind putting it into words? I want to be able to finish the sentence "I wrote this game and it's like D&D, except...", in order to set players' expectations.

Good point, I'll have to write a sample character or two at some point to illustrate how I intend things to work.

Glad you like what the martial artist looks like, it means I'm at least aiming for something that some players are going to want!

Otherwise, yeah I agree the other martial classes are pretty...

Hmmm....

It's a bit hard as expectations are such floaty things. I think you could write down a few sentences about the things the previous systems did well, and what you want to change.

When I get my hands on a "d20-rework-project", I leaf through it and look for the most obvious changes.
Are they still using the "Str-Dex-Con-Int-Wis-Cha" ability system?
What does "base level progression" look like? (check!)
What races are they using? are they "builds" changed? (err..half check!)
Are we working with "floating DC's", "bounded accuracy" or other?
Are they using a Skill-point system? or is more of a Trained/Untrained system? or maybe a hybrid? (half-check?)
Feats or Talents? or maybe both?
Spell points or Vancian?

The nitty gritty rules themselves (movement, cover, "action systems" and environmental stuff...you get the picture) get a look over next, but that's often a slow process of constant re-reading, double checking, thought-rummaging and mostly importantly playing the game i order to figure out how well everything fits together.

...
Sorry kind of lost the thread here...
I guess my brain is really functioning today, also you seem to be just in the early phases of your project, I'll probably have more to say, the more of your ideas I can read through and chain together to a cohesive whole.

Edit: Sorry, Not feeling quite up to snuff today. Should probably have waited to reply, until I felt better and I'm able to string two thoughts together.


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People are now trying to buy the shirt on my back.

Goddamn savages.


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captain yesterday wrote:

People are now trying to buy the shirt on my back.

G+@%%~n savages.

charges into captain yesterday toys r us

devours random employee

spits out shirt

sells shirt online


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captain yesterday wrote:

People are now trying to buy the shirt on my back.

G@+*#$n savages.

I'll give you checks pockets two dollars and a banana for it.


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Posting from Tekko. Ten minutes away from my second 5-hour game today. It ends at midnight.


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One guy got sent home for being surly.


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Bought some anime. I have: Starship Operators, Moonlight Mile, Chrome Shelled Regios, Higurashi no naku koroni Kai and Rei, and Sword Art Online Phantom Bullet.


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captain yesterday wrote:

People are now trying to buy the shirt on my back.

G%@#~~n savages.

But, aren't you too sexy for that shirt?

captain yesterday wrote:
One guy got sent home for being surly.

"And don't call him Surly."


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Orthos wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
Now I've heard that seeing someone yawn can make you want to yawn to but explain to me how me reading that just made me yawn.

Drejk has a feat allowing him to project his weariness through his draconic fear aura... which...

...hmmm, making the adventuring party drowsy through an aura instead of afraid would likely be something they didn't prep for.

If this doesn't already exist as a feat or special variant ability, it should.

I seem to remember 3.5e's Draconomicon had feats to admixture, or outright swap, the elemental damage type from draconic breath weapons. I'm kinda surprised no one has thought to do similar for a dragon's (Su) aura.


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You can check out Legendary Game's Path Of The Dragon mythic supplement, it might have something similar.

I can check when I get home if you don't have it.


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It's all going down in flames for enthusiastic but not overly bright brute squad member, he's being asked to do two things at once.

Alas, I'm on break, and I don't care.


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Two hours in, and I have no players. Department head said that if I still have no players an hour from now, I can leave. It's not that I have to worry about going to the after-show dinner this year, anyway. :(


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Half an hour from going home. See everyone tomorrow.


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Now he's lost the keys to the electronics department.

It's times like these I wish I liked popcorn.


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John Napier 698 wrote:
Two hours in, and I have no players. Department head said that if I still have no players an hour from now, I can leave. It's not that I have to worry about going to the after-show dinner this year, anyway. :(

Sorry it didn't turn out remotely how you wanted it.


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Sorry you're having a craptastic con night, John.

captain yesterday wrote:
It's times like these I wish I liked popcorn.

Something something, caramel, cheddar, butter, and lots of salt.


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captain yesterday wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
Two hours in, and I have no players. Department head said that if I still have no players an hour from now, I can leave. It's not that I have to worry about going to the after-show dinner this year, anyway. :(
Sorry it didn't turn out remotely how you wanted it.

Thanks, Cap. Maybe next year.


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Going to bed now. Good night, everybody.


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John asleep. Time for Vid to RISE! but no I am totes having my coffee right now.


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To this day, the bully who used to beat me up at school still takes my lunch money. On the bright side, he makes great Subway sandwiches.


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SPOILER ALERT!!!

Spoiler:
The milk has been in the fridge for 3 months now.


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Life is strange. One day you're the best thing since sliced bread, and the next day you're toast.

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