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houstonderek wrote:

Huh? We don't care about that. Seriously, outside of a few of us who just love sports in general (like me), most Americans rank soccer below sticking hot soldering guns in their ears on the "stuff I'd do with a gun stuck to my head" list.

It's called Football. You see there is this ball right, that's round, not shaped like an egg, ok and you kick it about, with your feet! Hence Football.

Soc-cor doesn't exist here... :)

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stuart haffenden wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

Huh? We don't care about that. Seriously, outside of a few of us who just love sports in general (like me), most Americans rank soccer below sticking hot soldering guns in their ears on the "stuff I'd do with a gun stuck to my head" list.

It's called Football. You see there is this ball right, that's round, not shaped like an egg, ok and you kick it about, with your feet! Hence Football.

Soc-cor doesn't exist here... :)

:-)

It could be worse, we could be Canadian and discussing curling.

Sovereign Court

stuart haffenden wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

Huh? We don't care about that. Seriously, outside of a few of us who just love sports in general (like me), most Americans rank soccer below sticking hot soldering guns in their ears on the "stuff I'd do with a gun stuck to my head" list.

It's called Football. You see there is this ball right, that's round, not shaped like an egg, ok and you kick it about, with your feet! Hence Football.

Soc-cor doesn't exist here... :)

New Zealanders call Rugby Union: Footie/Football

Australians call Aussie Rules (possible the oddest sport of all): Footie/Football

Soccer is a contraction of Association Football.

And every time I see a football player spasm like they're in their death throes because someone stood next to them I rechristen it Wendyball.

:b

So, yeah, cricket looking good for England on day 2, if they can dominate day three then it's all down to the attack.


houstonderek wrote:
DM Wellard wrote:
Just don't mention the World Cup 2018 or 2022

Huh? We don't care about that. Seriously, outside of a few of us who just love sports in general (like me), most Americans rank soccer below sticking hot soldering guns in their ears on the "stuff I'd do with a gun stuck to my head" list.

It was just another occasion for Obama to show his irrelevance away from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Good natured sledging about how bad the English are at sport is fine but it would be good if we could concentrate on cricket.

Sledging:
is a term used in cricket to describe the practice whereby some players seek to gain an advantage by insulting or verbally intimidating the opposing batsman. The purpose is to try to weaken the opponent's concentration, thereby causing him to make mistakes or underperform. It can be effective because the batsman stands within hearing range of the bowler and certain close fielders; and vice-versa. The insults may be direct or feature in conversations among fielders designed to be overheard.

Examples

Merv Hughes & Javed Miandad - During 1991 Adelaide Test, Javed called Merv a fat bus conductor. A few balls later Merv dismissed Javed: "Tickets please," Merv called out as he ran past the departing batsman.

Ricky Ponting & Shaun Pollock - After going past the outside edge with a couple of deliveries, Pollock told Ponting: "It's red, round & weighs about 5 ounces." Unfortunately for Pollock, the next ball was hammered out of the ground. Ponting to Pollock: "You know what it looks like, now go find it."

Eddo Brandes: Somebody asked "Eddo, why are you so fat?" Brandes promptly replied: "Because every time I make love to your wife, she gives me a biscuit."

Some background:

The series is named after a satirical obituary published in a British newspaper, The Sporting Times, in 1882 after a match at The Oval in which Australia beat England on an English ground for the first time. The obituary stated that English cricket had died, and the body will be cremated and the ashes taken to Australia. The English media dubbed the next English tour to Australia (1882–83) as the quest to regain The Ashes.

The Ashes serries is played for five matches in the test match format...

Test cricket is the longest form of the sport of cricket. Test matches are played between national representative teams, with four innings played between two teams of 11 players over a period of up to a maximum five days. It is generally considered the ultimate test of playing ability and endurance in the sport.

Currently the first match was drawn it is now the beginning of the 3rd day of the second match and England have the advantage.

Day 2: ENG 2/317 (89.0), AUS 245

So Australia were all out on the first day for 245 runs (no side away rule in Cricket everybody bats until the 10th player is given out).

England managed to bat the whole day and only loose 2 wickets (wickets are all the sticks set up at each end of the pitch (stumps are the tall ones and bails are the small ones, you are out if the ball hits the wicket) which means they can continue to bat and force the Australians to field all in the heat of a 33*C day.

The best hope is that it rains or that Australia can hold on for a draw when it is their turn to bat.


GeraintElberion wrote:
stuart haffenden wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

Huh? We don't care about that. Seriously, outside of a few of us who just love sports in general (like me), most Americans rank soccer below sticking hot soldering guns in their ears on the "stuff I'd do with a gun stuck to my head" list.

It's called Football. You see there is this ball right, that's round, not shaped like an egg, ok and you kick it about, with your feet! Hence Football.

Soc-cor doesn't exist here... :)

New Zealanders call Rugby Union: Footie/Football

Australians call Aussie Rules (possible the oddest sport of all): Footie/Football

Soccer is a contraction of Association Football.

And every time I see a football player spasm like they're in their death throes because someone stood next to them I rechristen it Wendyball.

:b

So, yeah, cricket looking good for England on day 2, if they can dominate day three then it's all down to the attack.

It annoys me when people correct me and tell me that soccer is football... It makes me hate the game and all the more. Id rather watch lawn bowls than soccer.....


Rain stopped play.... we might be able to hold out for a draw :-)

Sovereign Court

The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Rain stopped play.... we might be able to hold out for a draw :-)

I reckon you will.

Strauss is generally a decent captain but he plays too safe on these kind of calls. He should declare with the three-hundred lead so that the Aussies play some shots to try and win it.
He'll put another hundred on in the morning even if the weather is good, then the Australians will only have a draw to play for and will defend all day.

Good to hear that Pietersen had a good knock, hopefully getting back to form.


The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Rain stopped play.... we might be able to hold out for a draw :-)

Oh, dash and botheration. It's only supposed to rain when England are losing. I shall be writing a stiff letter to the Times demanding an explanation from the Met Office. I mean, if they can't even give us good weather when we're beating the Aussies, what good are they?


OH bad luck Australia..

Australia all out for 304 in their 2nd innings..England win by an innings and 17 runs.


DM Wellard wrote:

OH bad luck Australia..

Australia all out for 304 in their 2nd innings..England win by an innings and 17 runs.

Humble pie is out of the oven - I having it with mushy peas, mash potato, gravy, Worcestershire sauce and some Newcastle Brown Ale.

You have a very good team and I think it will be a few years before we are number 1 again....

Got to get rid of Ponting and Clarke.

Stupidity knows no bounds.....For former test captains

Chappell, Botham in Ashes bust-up: report:

Fierce foes for 33 years, it seems former Ashes captains Ian Chappell and Sir Ian Botham have been at it again.

Chappell and Botham reportedly had to be separated after an altercation in the Adelaide Oval car park on the fourth evening of the second Test between Australia and England.

"Botham, who hasn't spoken to former Australia captain Chappell since 1980 despite them working in close proximity in cricket ground television booths around the globe, was waiting for his Sky transport to collect him outside the Adelaide Oval," read a report in England's Daily Mail newspaper.

"Chappell muttered something highly provocative as he went past. A surprised Botham turned around to retort: 'What did you say?' And after Chappell made another incendiary remark, both of them dropped their bags and were at each others' throats before being quickly separated."

An observer of the incident said it was fortunate there had been others close by.


Ah Greg and 'Beefy'..that never gets old.


DM Wellard wrote:

OH bad luck Australia..

Australia all out for 304 in their 2nd innings..England win by an innings and 17 runs.

Umm, it was an innings and 71 runs, not an innings and 17 runs.

Although with Broad out of the England attack for the rest of the series, an otherwise settled England team could now be disrupted, offerin Australia a way back in... Still, from a UK perspective it was nice to hear an England team winning a test down under for the first time in a few years.


All England has to do now is play for the draw in the next 3 tests and they win the series.

Sovereign Court

Aussies changes should be interesting to see.


GeraintElberion wrote:
Aussies changes should be interesting to see.

I dont think that there will be many.... I hope the Poms win the series and we not only get rid of Ponting, but Clarke and all of the selectors as well.

There it has been suggested that Warnie said he would play but only if they offered him the captaincy.

Silver Crusade

DM Wellard wrote:
All England has to do now is play for the draw in the next 3 tests and they win the series.

Not going to happen. Australia generally produces result pitches so playing for a draw is a big mistake.

Besides England just need one more win to retain the Ashes and they will go for that with all guns blazing. England need to go for the jugular whilst the Aussies are down for the count, don't give them a chance to regroup or get confidence back. It's what the Australia of 10 years ago would have done and if there's any team you should copy it's that one.

The Exchange

The 8th Dwarf wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
so can someone please explain what this has to do with Buddy Holly?? He was not English.

Buddy Holly was a great medium paceman and was a dab hand with the bat (although his weakness was the hook-shot). He wrote Peggy Sue while on tour with the Sc~~@horpe 11.

ROFL....

Scun thorpe is a rude word........ Filter doesn't like it.

Which means what preytell??

The Exchange

stuart haffenden wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

Huh? We don't care about that. Seriously, outside of a few of us who just love sports in general (like me), most Americans rank soccer below sticking hot soldering guns in their ears on the "stuff I'd do with a gun stuck to my head" list.

It's called Football. You see there is this ball right, that's round, not shaped like an egg, ok and you kick it about, with your feet! Hence Football.

Soc-cor doesn't exist here... :)

It is officially Association Football, The term soccer originated in England, first appearing in the 1880s as an Oxford "-er" abbreviation of the word "association." It has been Soccer ever sense. :P


Yuck. England appear to lack a suitable pace replacement for Stuart Broad, if the match figures coming out of the game against Victoria just concluded are anything to go by. Okay, there seems to have been some 'declaration bowling' going on in the Victoria second innings (Strauss bowled four overs, for goodness sake, although he did actually take a wicket in one of them!) and it was only a three day game, but given that each side played two innings, I would have expected Tremlett/Shahzad/Bresnan to take more than one wicket in total between them over both the opposition innings.
[humour] I wonder if England would consider playing two spinners and picking Monty Panesar for Perth?... :D [/humour]


Crimson Jester wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
so can someone please explain what this has to do with Buddy Holly?? He was not English.

Buddy Holly was a great medium paceman and was a dab hand with the bat (although his weakness was the hook-shot). He wrote Peggy Sue while on tour with the Sc~~@horpe 11.

ROFL....

Scun thorpe is a rude word........ Filter doesn't like it.

Which means what preytell??

the C word makes up a part of the name of the town Sc_unthorpe and the obscenity filter picks it up and changes the characters. I feel very sorry for the people of Scunthorpe.


Charles Evans 25 wrote:

Yuck. England appear to lack a suitable pace replacement for Stuart Broad, if the match figures coming out of the game against Victoria just concluded are anything to go by. Okay, there seems to have been some 'declaration bowling' going on in the Victoria second innings (Strauss bowled four overs, for goodness sake, although he did actually take a wicket in one of them!) and it was only a three day game, but given that each side played two innings, I would have expected Tremlett/Shahzad/Bresnan to take more than one wicket in total between them over both the opposition innings.

[humour] I wonder if England would consider playing two spinners and picking Monty Panesar for Perth?... :D [/humour]

I think the Australian team are so demorilsed that they have no chance... State sides are different - a lot of the players in a State side are looking to get onto the national side.... so they have a bit more fire in their bellies.

I am glad that Warnie is doing his best to score against the English... I think he bowled a maiden over.


Third Test and another Aussie batting collapse looks like it's on the cards..69 for 5 at lunch.

Sovereign Court

Australia all out for 268.
Tremlett seems to have done okay.

England in to bat, currently 15 for 0, Cook making a good start.


GeraintElberion wrote:

Australia all out for 268.

Tremlett seems to have done okay.

England in to bat, currently 15 for 0, Cook making a good start.

The end of Ponting is nigh... just got to get rid of Clarke and the selectors...

I would push Hussey, Haddin, Johnson and even Siddle up the batting order and drop Ponting to 6.

Congratulations to the Poms you played great cricket.


Blech. Useless, useless, useless England side resuming normal service.
[rant warning!]

Spoiler:
They had the Australians 69-5 but couldn't finish them off yesterday, and now today, despite Australia being polite hosts and first slip and the keeper not wanting to catch Strauss early on, three other England batsmen have surrendered their wickets in quick succession on what's supposed to be a 'belter of a batting pitch'.
Broad's out injured, the wives and girlfriends have arrived, and the usual England men's side clownish performance has started up once more.
They may as well hand the Ashes back now and skip the remaining tests.
[/rant warning!]
Sorry, 8th Dwarf, the England team seem hellbent on making sure Ponting and the Australian selectors retain their jobs...
Turned off the radio broadcast in disgust, and heading for bed shortly. Will not be surprised if Australia have a two hunded run plus lead by the close of play today unless rain intervenes or Bell can stick around...
Oh well, maybe the [England] women's side will do better in the New Year.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Oooh! Johnson finally remembered how to swing the ball after 18 months.


Now if I was English I'd be most upset ..but I'm Scottish..totally neautral when it comes to cricket.

It seems to be a bowlers pitch though..

Sovereign Court

Australia loving Watson, although his reputation for flaking at around fifty is being discussed on the radio.

79 for 3 as I type, which means 13 wickets have gone down today. I can't imagine this test will go for a draw.


Dementrius wrote:
Oooh! Johnson finally remembered how to swing the ball after 18 months.

Mitchell Johnson - the real Mitchell Johnson who was once pretty high in the world rankings I seem to recall - has finally shown up again.

On form, I'd say he's probably the best bowler (maybe Swann excepted) in the two sides. Certainly the best pace bowler.

[conspiracy theory] I must say that right now it was looking a genius plan of Australia's at Adelaide. Get England all congratulatory and smug at Adelaide, make sure Pietersen got some runs so England didn't drop him and bring in Morgan who did trouble the Australian line up in England last time, and bring back a nicely rested Johnson, all fired up at Perth to destroy the England side. Okay, I assume that drawing the Adelaide test rather than lsing it was the Australian plan originally, but they obviously weren't expecting Swann to come back like that in the second innings after the way he performed at Brisbane. If Swann had bowled at Adelaide the way he bowled at Brisbane Australia should have at least drawn at Adelaide.
I've had some sleep since my last post, but having seen England managed to get themselves all out for 187, and Australia already building on a solid first innings lead (and, Bell top scored in the England innings I note) it looks like this match has gone for England, and Australia are going to level the series. With England in disarray and under fire from the media, they will disintegrate and Australia will sweep to an easy victory in the next two tests, because England won't bring in Morgan now unless there's an injury. The Ausssies have successfully hoodwinked the England selectors into thinking England have a pretty good batting line up, when thy have a third of a line up at best with Cook and Bell. [/conspiracy theory]

Hmm, I don't suppose England could trade a useless captain (Strauss) for one the Australians view as useless (Ponting)? I would enquire if we could swap Anderson (Mr. 'I'm more interested in flying home to see my family than warming up properly for the next match') for Johnson, but suspect any Aussies will laugh that into derision given the way he's winning this match for them.
Edit:
To clarify on the Strauss front, it seems to me that basically in the test innings he's scored in, he's done so because the Australians missed chances to get him out early on. Compare that to Hussey, one of the best batsmen of the series so far, who's hardly made a mistake and whom it seems England have no chance of getting out until he's made at least 50. And to be frank, right now it seems to me that England could use a captain (Ponting) who at least knows Australian conditions but isn't scoring runs more than one (Strauss) who doesn't know Australian conditions and is only scoring runs because the other side keep putting down chances...

Sovereign Court

Bell was wasted today, should have batted higher up.

I don't think this match is decided yet. If Australia go for less than 250 then England will need a lot of runs but they'll have 2 days, perhaps more, to get them.


Charles Evans 25 wrote:

Will not be surprised if Australia have a two hunded run plus lead by the close of play today unless rain intervenes or Bell can stick around...

I don't want to seem pushy, but could you suggest some numbers for tomorrow's lottery draw?

GeraintElberion wrote:

Bell was wasted today, should have batted higher up.

I don't think this match is decided yet. If Australia go for less than 250 then England will need a lot of runs but they'll have 2 days, perhaps more, to get them.

Bell should be batting at 5, after the way he's been batting this year. It's funny how not that long ago his place was under threat.

If Australia set England much anything over 300 I can't see them losing. Particularly with Johnson suddenly looking confident again. Get him out cheaply when/if he has to bat again, and his head might go down a bit. It'll be a hard game to save, probably easier to go for a win.


Well at least you got Ponting for 1. Bugger.... I want Australia to loose so we can can get rid of Punter but Haddin, Hussey and Johnson have fought so hard and the deserve the win.... arrgh torn on this one.


Bluenose wrote:
Charles Evans 25 wrote:

Will not be surprised if Australia have a two hunded run plus lead by the close of play today unless rain intervenes or Bell can stick around...

I don't want to seem pushy, but could you suggest some numbers for tomorrow's lottery draw.

Alas lottery numbers are a lot less predictable than the England men's test side's ability to plumb new depths of mediocrity - usually most spectacularly after they'd been giving their benighted fans some hope that they weren't (after Bangladesh and Zimbabwe) the worst test side in the world. It seems to me that the England women's side would often do better playing against the men's current opponents than the men are actually managing to do.

Hey-ho, the one day and twenty-twenty series will be coming soon though, and even on an off day the respective England sides can usually make a decent showing.


Well, I woke up this morning to tune in to the highlights and it seems to have been a pretty good result for you, 8th Dwarf. :) A massive, crushing, Australian win in three days and half a session, and Ponting possibly out of the next test with a finger injury.

My impression of the interviews with the England players (and with Stuart Broad who's been commentating for this third test) is that they seem to be shell-shocked and in denial right now. Geoffrey Boycott's analysis was that they'd only batted for a hundred overs and had been humiliated, but the current England squad were talking as if it were a slight inconvenience and they hadn't been utterly outplayed by Australia. If they get any more pitches like that and don't make changes they face annihilation, as the batting will fail again, and they have nobody able to return it in kind. None of the bowlers in the current England team have pace to match Johnson's. But I gather they [England] may have some slight hope for the next test as it's a drop-in pitch, and the TMS analysis was that at that ground those are usually pretty flat. Still, only a drawn game there, and Australia just need to win the last test to take the series.

Edit:
Oh, and congratulations to the Australian team on playing some pretty fine cricket. I just wish the England side had given you more of a game in this test.


Here in Texas, people's entire lives are based on their allegiance to a particular college's American Football team. Watching the game, though, I always used to say, "This would be a lot more interesting if there were fewer people on the field, and if they kept playing instead of stopping every time someone falls down."

And, finally, an overseas friend clued me in: "The rest of the world watches exactly that game, mate. It's called rugby."


Charles Evans 25 wrote:
Bluenose wrote:
Charles Evans 25 wrote:

Will not be surprised if Australia have a two hunded run plus lead by the close of play today unless rain intervenes or Bell can stick around...

I don't want to seem pushy, but could you suggest some numbers for tomorrow's lottery draw.

Alas lottery numbers are a lot less predictable than the England men's test side's ability to plumb new depths of mediocrity - usually most spectacularly after they'd been giving their benighted fans some hope that they weren't (after Bangladesh and Zimbabwe) the worst test side in the world. It seems to me that the England women's side would often do better playing against the men's current opponents than the men are actually managing to do.

Hey-ho, the one day and twenty-twenty series will be coming soon though, and even on an off day the respective England sides can usually make a decent showing.

Mediocrity? You're being far too kind to the lickspittles who currently comprise the England team. I've seen houses of cards in a hurricane take longer to fall apart. Disgraceful. Ok, Igor, get me the onyx, the shovel and the location of W G Grace's grave. Tally ho, we're off to save her imperial majesty's blushes.

Sovereign Court

Charles is completely right: the denial in the England camp is the worst thing.

I want to hear/sense: "Australia have really stepped up but if we work hard we can fight back."

Silver Crusade

The worst test side in the world after Zimbabwe and Bangladesh? Please!

The England team has not lost a series since March 2009. That's almost 2 years. That includes an Ashes series victory and a drawn 4 test series in South Africa. Since January 2009 their record is played 27, Won 13, Drawn 9 Lost 5. Hardly the record of a poor side. Frankly if that's "plumbing new depths of mediocrity" then you need a history lesson. Compared with the England vintage of the mid 90's this team is practically superhuman.

Yup England got spanked. Yup it happens. Does that make England a bad side overnight? No. England have a decent side, not brilliant but decent. They got beaten by a class bowler who suddenly found form and a class batsman who has been in form for the whole series. Besides the Aussies have far more problems than England, Ponting, Clarke and Hughes are walking wickets, Smith is a journeyman who got lucky, Perth aside the Aussie bowling has been poor and they don't have a player resembling anything close to a passable spinner. Frankly I'd rather be in the shoes of Strauss than Ponting.

The WACA is traditionally an Englishman's graveyard. It behaves differently from other grounds and as such England always have difficulty there. Besides Australia were always likely to win at least one test in this series.

They had a bad day at the office or 4. Nothing to be ashamed about. This series is not over, England will regroup and we will have a close series by the end of things.

If you want to criticise an England team start with Mr Capello's men, they really deserve it...


The Won/Drawn/Lost figures you quote include this year's tour of England by Bangladesh, and a series in 2009 against what I would consider a seriously undercooked West Indies side who had been strong-armed by their board into touring England at little notice after the Sri Lankans cancelled their England tour - and whose warm-up games were mostly washed out. Those four tests wins overly flatter the England side's figures I feel... Take them out, and suddenly England have only managed to win as many as they've drawn, and they've lost five more beyond that.
However, I will give ground and concede that figures of 9/9/5 indicate that England may be a decent side at least when playing at home, although I retain my doubts over their form overseas. Losing a test series in the Carribean against the West Indies (another side in decline/near the bottom of the tables) and going one up in a series in South Africa only to snatch a tied series from the jaws of victory with a couple of catastrophic batting collapses at The Wanderers amount to more than just the occasional 'bad day at the office' overseas I'd say.

As to the most recent Perth test, Johnson bowled well throughout the match, but it was Harris who took six wickets in England's second innings, not Johnson. In the historical context, England batsmen I would rate as decent (such as Atherton) have managed to hold out against pace bowling at least as fearsome as that of Johnson (South Africa's attack with Allan Donald comes to mind) to save or even win* tests. Johnson's bowling aside, I remain convinced that the England batting in this third test just gone was at best mediocre.

*Trent Bridge 1998, for example.

Silver Crusade

I agree with much of what you say there Charles. What I was objecting to was the asertion that England are the worst team in the world bar Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. In my opinion that was a really exaggerated and incorrect evaluation of England's relative position in test cricket.

To be clear that was a bad loss for England. Not hitting 200 twice in a single match is a terrible result which ever way you slice it. Harris had a good match (particularly in the second innings) and Johnson in the first changed the course of the match. But that's the WACA for you, England never do well there.

My opinion is that England are marginally the better side with fewer problems. This, combined with the fact that England only need to draw the series, means that my money is on England. However, if Johnson keeps firing and Harris can continue to support him with wickets then I see no reason why Australia can't win the series.

The Aussies will keep an unchanged side (for once). Shahzad should come in for Finn, he's good against left handers and England need to find a way of dealing with Hussey. However I have a sneaking suspicion the will go for Bresnan instead. Not what I'd do but England like his reliability and greater experience. His superior batting ability might also come into play.

As for the batting order, I suspect that it will remain the same. Another heavy defeat might cause concerns about Collingwood but England are very reticent to drop batsmen and I doubt they will do so here. Moving Bell up the order is unlikely to happen, it will look like they do not trust Collingwood to produce and Bell has done better at 6 than at any other position.

If I have to stick my head out I would say the next test will be a draw setting up a winner take all final test.

Game on.


All out for 98 arrghh.


(edited)
Errrrr...
That was very generous of the Melbourne ground staff to prepare a pitch which provided early season English conditions - and which was perfect for Anderson to bowl on - but I can't help but wonder if it was a good move from the point of view of Australia trying to win the series? Tuning into TMS last night I was bracing myself for a pitch in the style of Perth, and a further massacre of the England batting and/or yet more runs galore from Hussey.

This is cricket, and the match isn't over yet by a long chalk, but if Australia do lose I can see the question of 'who ordered that pitch?' being right at the top of the list in the post-ashes inquest.


Somebody at MCG wants Ponting gone as much as the rest of Oz I guess..

England 157 for no wicket..makes you wonder who was fooling who in the third test


DM Wellard wrote:

Somebody at MCG wants Ponting gone as much as the rest of Oz I guess..

England 157 for no wicket..makes you wonder who was fooling who in the third test

I thought the Australia board recently signed a massive contract with Ponting?


Which only proves that selectors everywhere are much the same no matter what the sport or nation...ie Out of touch


It's 5.15 AM here in the UK and England are on 340 for 5..242 ahead and half the batting order still to be got rid off..maybe they aren't so mediocre after all.

So declare at end of play today hope to demolish the Aussie batsmen in short order again and then have 2 full days to win...seems like a good plan.


444 for 5 at close of play on day 2


Yuck. That was looking pretty wobbly at 286-5 and if that hadn't been a no-ball Prior was caught behind from at 295, I feel Australia would have been batting again by the close.
Poor Ricky Ponting. It just hasn't been his day with the technology...
I gather from the BBC website that Ponting has been fined for his vociferous disagreement with umpire Dar regarding the Pietersen 'caught behind' at 259-2, but has avoided a suspension.


Ack. England all out by lunch, Hughes and Watson smacking the opening bowlers around in the second session at five an over. Looks like a long afternoon in the field for England. I wonder if Pietersen will be bowling before the close?
Collingwood almost certainly going to have an over or two unless he gets injured.
Okay, logging off for the night.

Edit:
Oooh, run-out of Hughes in a Swann over just as I was about to shut down.
Thank-you Mr. Hughes for making England's job easier.

Correction:
I gather the call was Watson's in the run-out and that Hughes was blameless. My apologies to Hughes and his supporters.

Sovereign Court

Australia 98 and 169 for 6
England 513

Australia need 246 more runs to draw level.

What they really need is their lower order staying in for 2 days.

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