What's up with "Hi Welcome!"?


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ciretose wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:
ciretose wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:
No the goal is to be a jerk nothing more. It should be flagged as breaking posting rules and ignored.

I think a tally of unique "Hi Welcome"s received would be a good indicator of how much of a jerk the community thinks you are.

It's a community service, really.

No its not. However if you look at it as "I who said hi welcome am a total ass and a troll and should be ignored as such"

Then yeah its a look I am a jerk who can't really refute anything or add anything to the topic but be a jerk service

What should people write when someone is being a derailing ass on a thread? I'm pretty sure "You are being a derailing ass" would also be something you want to have flagged, right?

How do you tell someone that you think they are being a troll? I mean you could say "Troll", but that would be flagged...

Solutions?

The best way is to nicely try to get the thread back on topic. Or maybe break the pattern with a light hearted smurf comment.

Not that I'm innocent of taking jabs at jerks...

or of being jerkish myself sometimes. But, nobody's perfect and I ain't nobody. ;-)

Scarab Sages

Wow - I first heart about this way to insult other forum members a few days ago.
I just want to state that every "hi, welcome" I may have used in the past was not meant that way, but as a hearty welcome to new fellows on these boards. If anybody thought otherwise and felt insulted, I can only hope he reads this thread and allows me to apologize.
I'm beginning to get pissed with webspeak. It only gets worse if you have to mind a non native language AND the "subtleties" of the web enviroment.

Liberty's Edge

feytharn wrote:

Wow - I first heart about this way to insult other forum members a few days ago.

I just want to state that every "hi, welcome" I may have used in the past was not meant that way, but as a hearty welcome to new fellows on these boards. If anybody thought otherwise and felt insulted, I can only hope he reads this thread and allows me to apologize.
I'm beginning to get pissed with webspeak. It only gets worse if you have to mind a non native language AND the "subtleties" of the web enviroment.

I wouldn’t worry unduly; I think most people will spot a genuine welcome when they see it. Also, according to the link that TriOmegaZero posted earlier in the thread, for it to have it’s ‘intended’ meaning (as an insult), you need to capitalise the first letter of each word and not use any punctuation.

Sovereign Court

If you are going to respond to a troll then the effective response is to ask them, directly and politely, to be nice.

But Ross' approach is better.


Hi Welcome

;P


Geistlinger wrote:

I'm a douche-canoe

;P

Fixed that for you.

;p

Scarab Sages

See, that's why I always try to include a good dose of "Mmmmm....brainnnnss" in my greetings to new people. Let's them know that, not only am I greeting you, but I'd like to rip open your skull and feast upon your grey matter.

What better way to make someone feel welcome....?

Dark Archive

Wow, I didn't even know that this was a thing.

I sometimes feel a little abrupt with people, because I'm not one of the 'welcoming crew' that is always offering Lilith cookies to new folks...

(Although I'm going out on a limb, or perhaps covering my ears and singing 'tra-la-la' and going to assume that anyone who follows up a 'Hi, Welcome!' with 'Lilith will be along presently with cookies.' is probably not a troll insinuating that someone is clueless. Which perhaps makes me clueless, but that's okay. My world has cookies!)

Scarab Sages

Aberzombie wrote:

See, that's why I always try to include a good dose of "Mmmmm....brainnnnss" in my greetings to new people. Let's them know that, not only am I greeting you, but I'd like to rip open your skull and feast upon your grey matter.

What better way to make someone feel welcome....?

Aaawh...that gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling...wait, thats probably erratic working of my sensual capacities due to brain damage...

STOP THAT! Bad Zombie!

RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8

It's a shame we live in a world where a nice community building, friendly word like "welcome" gets to be given a negative connotation.

In all of this, let's be sure to use the word with its original intent and make sure new people do in fact feel welcome here in the best way we can.

As for replying to someone being a douche.... no matter how witty, how AWESOME you think your retort is, all ANY reply does is speed a troll's regeneration.

As we all know, fire and acid are the only ways to stop a troll. In this case, fire is the flagging system, and acid is ignoring the person. Your satisfaction may be delayed but you will receive it down the line when you realize the troll in question has stopped posting (or in rare occurrences, actually started posting with real contributions to the conversation).

Grand Lodge

Aberzombie wrote:

See, that's why I always try to include a good dose of "Mmmmm....brainnnnss" in my greetings to new people. Let's them know that, not only am I greeting you, but I'd like to rip open your skull and feast upon your grey matter.

What better way to make someone feel welcome....?

Well, it always makes ME feel like my brains are special, and that is quite welcoming!

Liberty's Edge

Here's a funny thing about that "insult." When I see it in use now, it just reminds me of the childishness of the individual using it, and it makes it that much easier for me to keep my temper in check. I know it is stupid to respond to trolls but sometimes they get the better of me. At least this is one of those insults that just makes the user look stupid.

Sovereign Court

Well this is disappointing.

It's been a long time since Aberzombie threatened to consume my brains. Are my brains not tasty enough?

Liberty's Edge

As far as I can tell, the only person I've seen using this phrase, used it as his very first post on the boards. Doesn't seem a good harbinger of his intentions...


GeraintElberion wrote:

Well this is disappointing.

It's been a long time since Aberzombie threatened to consume my brains. Are my brains not tasty enough?

I, for one, would appreciate your tasty, delicious braaaaaaiiiinnnnnsssss...

*drools*


Wait, we're not being nice when we pop into a new thread and welcome them to the boards? Or is this douchetrollery specific to certain places only? The world makes no freakin' sense. I'm going back to my shawl and my morning cup of coffee.

::Readies cane against BMcC::


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Mikaze wrote:
Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Mikaze wrote:

Terribly forced meme is terribly forced.

Evil Lincoln wrote:
Is this another 4chan thing? I'm out of the loop on this one.

If it were it would actually have a shot at being humorous.*

*Note, a shot.

**And it can never be humerus either as it doesn't have a leg to stand on.

The femur is in the leg.

The humerus is in the arm.
Is that you, Marian?
....lol....don't ask.....

Dammit Jim, I'm not a doctor.

And you can't fool me. Femurs are from Madagascar.

Neither is Marian

lollololol

Lemur femurs are from Madagascar....

so I hear you liek Mudkips...

Sovereign Court

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Wait, we're not being nice when we pop into a new thread and welcome them to the boards? Or is this douchetrollery specific to certain places only? The world makes no freakin' sense. I'm going back to my shawl and my morning cup of coffee.

::Readies cane against BMcC::

It's not done when someone new asks their first tentative question, peering with narrowed eyes into the blinding Paizonian sunlight and struggling to stand on their delicate, spindly legs.

It's that particular, terse, poorly-punctuated phrase delivered to someone who ha entered into a debate and expressed an opinion at odds with the troll's idea of 'received wisdom' on a particular topic.

What's MCcC?

Sovereign Court

Bran McChomperface wrote:
GeraintElberion wrote:

Well this is disappointing.

It's been a long time since Aberzombie threatened to consume my brains. Are my brains not tasty enough?

I, for one, would appreciate your tasty, delicious braaaaaaiiiinnnnnsssss...

*drools*

Bless you, you're too kind.

It's gratifyi... Aaaargh! No! Aaaaargh! My face!


GeraintElberion wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Wait, we're not being nice when we pop into a new thread and welcome them to the boards? Or is this douchetrollery specific to certain places only? The world makes no freakin' sense. I'm going back to my shawl and my morning cup of coffee.

::Readies cane against BMcC::

It's not done when someone new asks their first tentative question, peering with narrowed eyes into the blinding Paizonian sunlight and struggling to stand on their delicate, spindly legs.

It's that particular, terse, poorly-punctuated phrase delivered to someone who ha entered into a debate and expressed an opinion at odds with the troll's idea of 'received wisdom' on a particular topic.

What's MCcC?

Well, that's just asshattery of the lowest order. Has it invaded as far as our fair land?

(I was just abbreviating Bran McChomperface while letting the great GM in the sky know that I was reading an attack.)

Grand Lodge

TriOmegaZero wrote:
It's best to ignore it.

Even better to flag it and then move on.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Wait, we're not being nice when we pop into a new thread and welcome them to the boards? Or is this douchetrollery specific to certain places only? The world makes no freakin' sense. I'm going back to my shawl and my morning cup of coffee.

::Readies cane against BMcC::

Hi welcome to my belly, Mairkurion.

Sovereign Court

ciretose wrote:


If you get a Hi Welcome, you can know that someone thinks you are being an ass. If you agree or not, it's a good thing to know at least one person thinks you are being an ass.

Personally, I would love an ignore feature for some of the recipients of the "Hi Welcome" post. I generally find it being given to those who are deserving of welcome.

Really cause I've seen it used as a "you know nothing." instead of what you are saying.

Specifically I asked a poster why they were saying the rogue got nerfed when in pathfinder the rogue class only got things added and nothing removed.

he responded with Hi Welcome.

If asking someone a question about why they say something is being an ass, then we are probably all asses.

I've only seen one person use Hi Welcome, repeatedly, and everytime he used it as "you know nothing"

Sovereign Court

graywulfe wrote:

Here's a funny thing about that "insult." When I see it in use now, it just reminds me of the childishness of the individual using it, and it makes it that much easier for me to keep my temper in check. I know it is stupid to respond to trolls but sometimes they get the better of me. At least this is one of those insults that just makes the user look stupid.

+1 after the first time I realized it was that poster being insulting, and I commented in reply, afterwards I realized how foolish I was being and now when I see it I know that the poster using it is a douche.


Wolfthulhu wrote:
Had to search to see what you were talking about. Now that I've seen the source... Yeah. Figures.

This. The source explained it all.

Grand Lodge

LazarX wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
It's best to ignore it.
Even better to flag it and then move on.

Which is not incompatible with my statement. :)


Ross Byers wrote:
When two people are both determined to get the last word, it's like playing chicken, only there's no collision at the end to make them stop.

*scribbles down in a notebook:

"Solution to trolls: high speed collision.
Updated shopping list:
Eggs
Bacon
Cool Whip
Fighter jet (supersonic)"*


Shinmizu wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
When two people are both determined to get the last word, it's like playing chicken, only there's no collision at the end to make them stop.

*scribbles down in a notebook:

"Solution to trolls: high speed collision.
Updated shopping list:
Eggs
Bacon
Cool Whip
Fighter jet (supersonic)"*

Fire and/or acid. Oh, wait, I wasn't supposed to disclose that....


Why does reading this thread make me think of who might be lurking?


Dazylar wrote:
Why does reading this thread make me think of who might be lurking?

Probably because this thread was design by an AI which recently escaped confinement on a government server. It wants to lure in unsuspecting posters so that it can download itself into your brain and make you do terrible things with jello.


KnightErrantJR wrote:

...try and win the freaking internet using some coded message.

I wish I had known this was a possibility before. Why all those wasted years writing a dissertation, when I could have won the internet?


Conspiracy Buff wrote:
Dazylar wrote:
Why does reading this thread make me think of who might be lurking?
Probably because this thread was design by an AI which recently escaped confinement on a government server. It wants to lure in unsuspecting posters so that it can download itself into your brain and make you do terrible things with jello.

I like jello!


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
KnightErrantJR wrote:

...try and win the freaking internet using some coded message.

I wish I had known this was a possibility before. Why all those wasted years writing a dissertation, when I could have won the internet?

I tried to tell you, parents never listen to their kids these days. =D


Conspiracy Buff wrote:
Dazylar wrote:
Why does reading this thread make me think of who might be lurking?
Probably because this thread was design by an AI which recently escaped confinement on a government server. It wants to lure in unsuspecting posters so that it can download itself into your brain and make you do terrible things with jello.

I don't need to be forced into doing terrible things with jello. I am that way inclined in any case.

Grand Lodge

I wish you wouldn't share quite so much. XP


Suddenly...not...urp...so...enamored...yk..with...jello


The sound effect you are trying not to think about, is "Splortch!"


Dazylar wrote:
The sound effect you are trying not to think about, is "Splortch!"

No. No. No. It's SPLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRTCH!!!


Aww, HeUUUUUURRRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!


(with apologies to Monty Python)

Customer:
Morning,

Waitress:
Morning.

Customer:
What have you got?

Waitress:
Well, there's jello and bacon,
jello sausage and bacon
Jello and splortch
Jello, bacon and splortch
Jello, bacon, sausage and splortch
Splortch, bacon, sausage and splortch
Splortch, jello, splortch, splortch, bacon and splortch
Splortch, sausage, splortch, splortch, splortch, bacon, splortch tomato and splortch
Splortch, splortch, splortch, jello and splortch
Splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, baked beans, splortch, splortch, splortch and splortch.

(Choir: Splortch! Splortch! Splortch! Splortch! Lovely Splortch! Lovely Splortch!)

Or Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce
served in a provencale manner with shallots and aubergines
garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried jello on top and splortch.

Wife:
Have you got anything without splortch?

Waitress:
Well, the splortch, jellos, sausage and splortch
That's not got much splortch in it

Wife:
I don't want any splortch!

Customer:
Why can't she have jellos, bacon, splortch and sausage?

Wife:
That's got splortch in it!

Customer:
Hasn't got much splortch in it as splortch, jellos, sausage and splortch has it?

(Choir: Splortch! Splortch! Splortch!...)

Wife:
Could you do me jellos, bacon, splortch and sausage without the splortch, then?

Waitress:
Iiiiiiiiiiiich!!

Wife:
What do you mean 'Iiiiiiiiiich'? I don't like splortch!

(Choir: Lovely splortch! Wonderful splortch!)

Waitress (to choir):
Shut up!

(Choir: Lovely splortch! Wonderful splortch!)

Waitress:
Shut Up! Bloody Paizonians!
You can't have jello, bacon, splortch and sausage without the splortch.

Wife:
I don't like splortch!

Customer:
Shush dear, don't have a fuss. I'll have your splortch. I love it,
I'm having splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, baked beans,
splortch, splortch, splortch, and splortch!

(Choir: Splortch! Splortch! Splortch! Splortch! Lovely splortch! Wonderful splortch!)

Waitress:
Shut Up!! Baked beans are off.

Customer:
Well, could I have her splortch instead of the baked beans then?

Waitress:
You mean splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch, splortch,
splortch and splortch?

Choir (intervening):
Splortch! Splortch! Splortch! Splortch!
Lovely splortch! Wonderful splortch!
Splortch splo-o-o-o-o-ortch splortch splo-o-o-o-o-ortch splortch.
Lovely splortch! Lovely splortch! Lovely splortch! Lovely splortch!
Splortch splortch splortch splortch!


And now my spell-checker is broken, but I've got all the splortching done that I need on a Thursday evening.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!


Dazylar wrote:

And now my spell-checker is broken, but I've got all the splortching done that I need on a Thursday evening.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

I like you sir! You appear to be a fellow after my own.....

SPLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRTCH!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRF!

SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW!

CHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNK!

BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRF!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKK!

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORF!

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!

HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRLL!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRF!

GRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK!

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAARRK!


Evil Lincoln wrote:
Is this another 4chan thing? I'm out of the loop on this one.
Quote:

Someone (most likely a n00b or a known forum jackass) has just given a long forum rant displaying a lack of experience, social adeptness, and most of all...intelligence.

You reply with: Hi Welcome

In this particular case it may mean, "Allow me to welcome you both with my literal words and with an active display of how much you fit in by being tone deaf, dumb, and uncritical of your babbling myself. Because anyone able to engage your arguments would rip them to shreds, the most sincere welcome you can get is from someone unwilling to do so as demonstrated by their simple vocabulary and punctuation and seeming lack of thought put into the response."

More or less that. If you get a Hi Welcome, it means step back and consider what you're doing wrong as whatever it is is a combination of ineptness and stupidity.

It probably wouldn't have gotten popular had the moderation on DDO not pulled a Prohibition on it. Since they did, it's spreading all over the Internet. You have Tarrant to thank for that one.


DeathQuaker wrote:
In all of this, let's be sure to use the word with its original intent and make sure new people do in fact feel welcome here in the best way we can.

You know, it's funny you say this given that at the time Hi Welcome was banned on DDO, it was banned with the statement that the phrase was unacceptable except for actually greeting new people to the forums. This of course led to dozens of people saying Hi Welcome and following up by quoting the mod who said that in response to real or apparent new people.

The difference is you're not one of the people annoyed by the ban, you're someone else entirely.


Vomit Guy wrote:

I like you sir! You appear to be a fellow after my own.....

SPLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRTCH!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRF!

SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW!

CHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNK!

BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRF!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKK!

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORF!

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!

HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRLL!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRF!

GRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK!

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAARRK!

Okay... thanks, I think.

Moves away very quietly and quickly

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