Posted by Bill Webb, co-owner of Necromancer Games, on Necromancers boards as well as in a thread over on ENWorld:
OK guys--website will be live in a few days. Greg and I are a go. A few details to still work out---but here is the plan. I have to make it a non-Necro release for various reasons..but Clark has passed me his infernal blessings, so here we go.
The Sleeper Awakes!
At last, after languishing in its crypt for an age, the secrets of the slumbering city of Tsar burst forth in all their macabre glory. Poured forth from the eldritch furnaces and crucibles of the Necromancer and Orcus himself comes Frog God Games bringing you at long last The Slumbering Tsar Saga™.
Something Stirs in the City of Evil
Over the distant northern hills, beyond The Camp, and past the Desolation stand the pitted walls of Tsar. A hundred armies have crushed themselves against this bulwark in futile attempts to breach the city. Even the combined might of the Heavens and Earth were unable to break through in the final battle of Tsar. So why was the city suddenly abandoned on the verge of victory, and what waits for those foolish enough to enter the Temple-City of Orcus?
The Black Gates Await
Only the bravest and most powerful of heroes dare the depths of the Desolation and live to tell of it. But what happens when they penetrate that blasted landscape and look upon the gates of the very center of evil on the earth. Can even heroes of such renown breach the Walls of Death and live?
The Slumbering Tsar Saga™ began its journey years ago as a single mega-adventure for the masters of Third Edition rules and First Edition feel, then became a trilogy of adventures, then a trilogy of mega-adventures, and now finally comes to you as a monthly series culminating in a massive book with over a half million words of pure First Edition-style adventure. Updated to the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game to accommodate today’s audience of the classic fantasy roleplaying game, The Slumbering Tsar Saga™ brings you 14 chapters, released monthly in electronic format, each chapter the size of a full adventure in its own right (30-50 pages) . Then when the final chapter has been released, the whole will be available in a classic edition, hardcover adventure book.
The Slumbering Tsar Saga™ will begin its run with the release of its first chapter, Slumbering Tsar: The Desolation, Part 1 —The Edge of Oblivion. Then each month will follow a new chapter in the saga:
Slumbering Tsar: The Desolation, Part 2 —The Ghosts of Victory
Slumbering Tsar: The Desolation, Part 3—The Western Front
Slumbering Tsar: Temple-City of Orcus, Part 1 —The Tower of Weeping Sores
Slumbering Tsar: Temple-City of Orcus, Part 2 —The Lower City
Slumbering Tsar: Temple-City of Orcus, Part 3 —The Harrow Lanes
Slumbering Tsar: Temple-City of Orcus, Part 4 —The Crooked Tower
Slumbering Tsar: Temple-City of Orcus, Part 5 —Foundations of Infamy
Slumbering Tsar: The Hidden Citadel, Part 1 —At the Feet of Orcus
Slumbering Tsar: The Hidden Citadel, Part 2 —Echoes of Despair
Slumbering Tsar: The Hidden Citadel, Part 3 —The Throne of the Demon Prince
Slumbering Tsar: The Hidden Citadel, Part 4 —In the Belly of the Beast
Slumbering Tsar: The Hidden Citadel, Part 5 —The Mind of Chaos
Slumbering Tsar: The Hidden Citadel, Part 6 —Caverns of the Barrier
COMING SOON
Coming May 15th to Frog God Games Slumbering Tsar: The Desolation, Part 1 —The Edge of Oblivion in pdf format for the introductory price of $2.00.
Each month following, the next chapter of The Slumbering Tsar Saga™ will be released for the low price of $9.99. A subscription option is available to ensure that you don’t miss a single installment. Upon the release of the final chapter, the whole will be available as a hardcover print adventure and is included as part of the purchase price for those how purchase all 14 installments of the series or for a one-time purchase price of $120.00 (includes hardcover). Non subscription hardcover books will be available for $150.00 (when we are all done) at Drive Through RPG (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com) . As soon as Slumbering Tsar Saga™ is complete, look for our next release!
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That's great news! Where can I subscribe?
God's in his Heaven
Orcus sits upon his throne
All's right with the world!
Couldn't have said it better myself. Consider me subscribed.
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True Wicht for this it is more of a deal between Bill and Greg. I know if this does well that Bill would also like to finally do Sword of Air as well for Pathfinder. Clark I think if this actually breaks even or better would be encouraged to get back on board and do the PF ToH he has been talking about off and on for awhile.
So this could be the first movements of Necromancer games waking up or it's final death rattle.
Obvious I plan to support the plan and hope this sparks a Necromancer return.
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+infinity I'd even get behind a patronage on this puppy.
True Wicht for this it is more of a deal between Bill and Greg. I know if this does well that Bill would also like to finally do Sword of Air as well for Pathfinder. Clark I think if this actually breaks even or better would be encouraged to get back on board and do the PF ToH he has been talking about off and on for awhile.
So this could be the first movements of Necromancer games waking up or it's final death rattle.
Obvious I plan to support the plan and hope this sparks a Necromancer return.
Yeah, Bill mentions this had to be done for legal reasons, and the only one I can think of is to keep 4E options open for Necromancer Games, or there is something in the Pathfinder licensing that I am not aware of, which is very possible since I have never read the PF licensing requirements.
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Yeah, Bill mentions this had to be done for legal reasons, and the only one I can think of is to keep 4E options open for Necromancer Games, or there is something in the Pathfinder licensing that I am not aware of, which is very possible since I have never read the PF licensing requirements.True Wicht for this it is more of a deal between Bill and Greg. I know if this does well that Bill would also like to finally do Sword of Air as well for Pathfinder. Clark I think if this actually breaks even or better would be encouraged to get back on board and do the PF ToH he has been talking about off and on for awhile.
So this could be the first movements of Necromancer games waking up or it's final death rattle.
Obvious I plan to support the plan and hope this sparks a Necromancer return.
I don't think he used the term legal, at least not in this announcement. I'm also not too sure I would care to pry too deeply into the reasons which might turn out to be more personal than business related.
That said, I don't think there is anything in the PFRPG license which necissitates this as it's an open license and fairly liberal in what you can print under it.
Yeah, Bill mentions this had to be done for legal reasons, and the only one I can think of is to keep 4E options open for Necromancer Games, or there is something in the Pathfinder licensing that I am not aware of, which is very possible since I have never read the PF licensing requirements.
Clarks' posts about 4e sounded incredibly DONE.
Clarks' posts about 4e sounded incredibly DONE.
Yeah, Bill mentions this had to be done for legal reasons, and the only one I can think of is to keep 4E options open for Necromancer Games, or there is something in the Pathfinder licensing that I am not aware of, which is very possible since I have never read the PF licensing requirements.
The more love Slumbering Tsar and Froggodgames.com get, the more likely that some of the "lost" Necro adventures may see the light of day. And if its with Pathfinder rules, we all win.
Looks like a no-brainer to me.
I really wish the Necro website would get some updates, giving us some direction for our hopes.
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My guess and it is just a wild ass guess. But that Clark isn't sure the project will make money. If Necro did it, then Clark legally would be up for 50%. By Bill doing it this way, it clears Clark completely and puts all the risk on Bill. Thats just my guess.
I guess Clark's not completely out of it. Over at ENWorld, Greg V. mentioned Clark would be handling legal for Frog God Games.
Still and all, I can't read this as good news for Necromancer in its old form. But I will be happy if Frog God Games does well with PFRPG products.
Necro!
Nerco!!
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Necro!!!!
Yea, I'm happy.
Hmmm... very very interesting. I will have to check this out.
Dean (TMW)
Color me intrigued! But, I have questions...
Is the Slumbering Tsar Saga a re-invention/re-design of the previously released mega-adventures? Or is this an all new series of adventures?
Is it more site-based (like Rappan Athuk)? Or more story-driven (like a PFRPG Adventure Path)?
I wonder what exactly is happening with Necromancer Games, specifically, and if there's not really a lot of lack of clarity about that.
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Color me intrigued! But, I have questions...
Is the Slumbering Tsar Saga a re-invention/re-design of the previously released mega-adventures? Or is this an all new series of adventures?
Is it more site-based (like Rappan Athuk)? Or more story-driven (like a PFRPG Adventure Path)?
New series, i did a review for the first one, which is currently out for 3.5 but it will get redone for PFRPG with this.
Sandbox style. The adventure starts you in a camp near a area where a old destoryed city is, so their is the area around the city to explore and then the city. Right now the first one is all I know a lot about and it is completely just about exploring around the city. i know the second one is exploring the city. I believe the 3rd is for exploring under the city.
Well, it's the old series updated for Pathfinder. I'm sure that Greg can expound on any other changes better than I can.
However, all that has been released to date is the first book (The Desolation).
Bill did mention recompense for those who have already purchased the 3.5 Slumbering Tsar.
Chuck "Frog God's Layout Guy" Wright
I am looking forward to this, though I must admit my wallet is already busting at the seams!
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Posted by Bill Webb, co-owner of Necromancer Games, on Necromancers boards as well as in a thread over on ENWorld:
Coming May 15th to Frog God Games Slumbering Tsar: The Desolation, Part 1 —The Edge of Oblivion in pdf format for the introductory price of $2.00.
Each month following, the next chapter of The Slumbering Tsar Saga™ will be released for the low price of $9.99. A subscription option is available to ensure that you don’t miss a single installment. Upon the release of the final chapter, the whole will be available as a hardcover print adventure and is included as part of the purchase price for those how purchase all 14 installments of the series or for a one-time purchase price of $120.00 (includes hardcover). Non subscription hardcover books will be available for $150.00 (when we are all done) at Drive Through RPG (http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com) . As soon as Slumbering Tsar Saga™ is complete, look for our next release!
I am a bit confused....does this mean that if you have bought the PDFs of the 14 chapters that you get the hardcover for free...or does it cost $120 on top??
I am very interested in this, where doe you go to find the subscription??
I am looking forward to this, though I must admit my wallet is already busting at the seams!
The best cure for that is to spend money. Less overpressure strain is good for your wallet's integrity.
If buying this pseudo-adventure-path doesn't relieve your wallet sufficiently, I'd suggest buying a second (or third) copy to give to a friend.
Why, oh why, do I have to be playing in this game already????
I am a bit confused....does this mean that if you have bought the PDFs of the 14 chapters that you get the hardcover for free...or does it cost $120 on top??
I am very interested in this, where do you go to find the subscription??
When the website is up and the subscription plans worked out (which I think is what's holding up the website at the moment, but don't quote me on that) you will be able to subscribe at www.froggodgames.com
Now, I don't know Bill Webb's entire plan for cost-structure, but the initial deal for those who love us and trust us and want to jump on early is that you are basically paying in installments for the book and for that you get the .pdf chapters... OR you're paying for the .pdf chapters monthly and getting the book for free.
Any way you want to look at it. ;)
I think that there's also going to be an option to pay for it all up front. There seems to be some interest in paying for it that way as well.
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Sanwah68 if you buy all of it. I am guessing you have ST 1, already. The book will be one huge book with all 3 parts in it. So if you already bought the first one they are working on a way so that you will get a discount for what you payed for it off the subscription. So say you payed 25 for the ST1 PDF, then you would pay 25 less for the subscription which includes the price of the book.
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Thanks for all your answers everyone....Now to wait for the website going up. My husband just gave me a thumbs up to buy this (always easier if they agree with your purchases), between this, my paizo subscription and trying to collect some of the Stars Wars stuff before it goes out of print, I think I won't buy buying much else for a while.
This is all Bill and Greg. I'm happy Greg's Tsar stuff is going to find a way to get out to the fans. Its awesome stuff. Greg is the man. For various legal reasons it made sense for Bill to do Frog God. I'm not involved with it, but it sure is awesome and I support it.
PublisherwhopromisestogivemePfToHsayswhat?
PublisherwhopromisestogivemePfToHsayswhat?Keep in mind just because Clark isn't going to be involved with TS, doesn't mean at some point he won't be involved with ToH PF edition.
He knows. He just likes to drive the point home to the forefront. Can't say I blame him. ;)
He knows. He just likes to drive the point home to the forefront. Can't say I blame him. ;)PublisherwhopromisestogivemePfToHsayswhat?Keep in mind just because Clark isn't going to be involved with TS, doesn't mean at some point he won't be involved with ToH PF edition.
Mairkurion {tm} has all the subtlety of an ogre swinging an earthbreaker. :^)
PublisherwhopromisestogivemePfToHsayswhat?Leafyplantguywhowillpayformycopysayswhat?
One dollar! Sold!
*Stirs pot*
It's not done yet.
Just wanted to stop by and say that we hope to have the new website up by Monday.
Also, you have a better chance of Bill reading what you have to say at the Necromancer Games Forums.
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Color me intrigued! But, I have questions...
Is the Slumbering Tsar Saga a re-invention/re-design of the previously released mega-adventures? Or is this an all new series of adventures?
Is it more site-based (like Rappan Athuk)? Or more story-driven (like a PFRPG Adventure Path)?
I did a review with Greg, way back, and Slumbering Tsar came up over here. About half way in he gives an overview of the project that might prove useful to you. Also, it shows I am endowed
with the gift of prophecy. :)
I am a bit confused....does this mean that if you have bought the PDFs of the 14 chapters that you get the hardcover for free...or does it cost $120 on top??
I am very interested in this, where do you go to find the subscription??
When the website is up and the subscription plans worked out (which I think is what's holding up the website at the moment, but don't quote me on that) you will be able to subscribe at www.froggodgames.com
Now, I don't know Bill Webb's entire plan for cost-structure, but the initial deal for those who love us and trust us and want to jump on early is that you are basically paying in installments for the book and for that you get the .pdf chapters... OR you're paying for the .pdf chapters monthly and getting the book for free.
Any way you want to look at it. ;)
I think that there's also going to be an option to pay for it all up front. There seems to be some interest in paying for it that way as well.
I tried going to froggodgames.com and I didn't get to anything remotely looking like a subscription page. Is it up and running or are there still some "bugs" in the system?
Thanks in advance.
Dean; The_Minstrel_Wyrm
It's talesofthefroggod.com. I try to go to froggodgames.com sometimes at home, since that's what I tried first too.
Is Frog God going to give me my ToH:Pf Ed?
If not, then shut yer big froggy yap!
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They have had pretty much constant problems with the host server since the site went live. Least that was the last thing I seen Bill post about it on Necro forums. I believe they are looking for a new host because of this and all I can suggest is keep trying the page. Eventually it should be back up today.