Beyond the monsters that will slowly be recycled from older editions, what monsters that Paizo has created would you like to see (possibly updated to PFRPG rules) in the next Bestiary?
For me:
Mobogo (PF#12)
Cold Rider (E1)
Reefclaw (PF#7)
Linked the reefclaw for you :)
Its not official but it might be sufficient.
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Flotsam Ooze. (Like the one in Savage Tide AP from Dungeon mag.)
Although I did indeed invent/design the flotsam ooze, I did so for WotC's Fiend Folio. As a result, it's not an open content monster, and not one we can use.
THAT SAID! Keep the thread going! We'll absolutely be picking up monsters from Pathfinder products to include in forthcoming Bestiaries, and it's always good to know which ones are well-liked!
Denizens of Leng, though they need a shorthand name.
The Coeurl — even though I know you would have to pay for the rights a second time — should go into a bestiary.
The Wendigo.
Denizens of Leng, though they need a shorthand name.
That IS their shorthand name. Their real name takes 10.000 years to speak, and that only if you speak it with 7 mouths at once.
jason buhlman, james jacobs and erik mona
Roonies (also known as Rune Giants), the giants that put giant back into giant. Though I think they're pretty much usable as is.
The Lamia Matriarch (the one whose form resembles the classical Lamia (i.e. serpent lady) is another must-have (and in fact I was surprised it didn't make the Bestiary I
Revenants, Banshees and other very classical undead monsters, of course, need attention, too.
The Shining Child (of Thassalion) is interesting because it is an evil creature of light, which is a refreshing change from the usual "light = good, darkness = evil"
Haveros are powerful to give even 20th-level characters a run for their money, and represent the upper echelon of aberration threats.
And what about introducing flashwarping into the corebooks wholesale. The drider's already there, so let's add some Ghonhatine. Yes, it sounds like a pharmaceutical - and it is. It is a fast-acting, long-lasting treatment for cockiness in characters.
Another idea is to have a Urban Legend special, with Chupacabras, Mothmen, Locus Devils (Sandpoint/Jersey) and the like
Akatas made nice alien critters from beyond the stars, I liked them.
I guess I don't even need to mention Sirens, do I?
Fungal Crawler always had something disturbing about them. Half animal, half fungus? You shouldn't think about them and then go eat anything containing mushrooms.
Emkrahs, basically the misspent seed of gods - now that's all kinds of disturbing, too. Get them.
Beyond that, Fey, Fey, Fey! Oh, and Fey! We need far more of them.
And though I don't repeat stuff others have already mentioned, I will repeat Proteans, because.
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Although I did indeed invent/design the flotsam ooze, I did so for WotC's Fiend Folio. As a result, it's not an open content monster, and not one we can use.
James, there was an article that I loved in Dragon (forget the number) that had a bunch of low CR golems made from paper, tin and whatnot. Would Paizo be able to use some variation of them?
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Flotsam Ooze. (Like the one in Savage Tide AP from Dungeon mag.)Although I did indeed invent/design the flotsam ooze, I did so for WotC's Fiend Folio. As a result, it's not an open content monster, and not one we can use.
THAT SAID! Keep the thread going! We'll absolutely be picking up monsters from Pathfinder products to include in forthcoming Bestiaries, and it's always good to know which ones are well-liked!
I knew it wasn't OC but I figured that you guys could pull out a similar idea but changed around a little. I loved the concept and it fit well.
jason buhlman, james jacobs and erik mona
+1! :lol:
Goblin Snake. That's another one.
Goblin Snake is on d20pfsrd.com also :)
Grave Knight
Lamia Matriach
Rune Giants
Witchfire
Revanant
Banshee
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Although I did indeed invent/design the flotsam ooze, I did so for WotC's Fiend Folio. As a result, it's not an open content monster, and not one we can use.James, there was an article that I loved in Dragon (forget the number) that had a bunch of low CR golems made from paper, tin and whatnot. Would Paizo be able to use some variation of them?
We'd be able to make up new golems, yeah, out of pretty much ANY substance. Personally... I would not want to see things develop in that direction. Golems are tough. Lower CR golems of things made out of less sturdy material than ice start to feel like they should just be some sort of animated construct type thingy.
In any event, if we did do tin golems and paper golems, they'd have entirely different stat blocks than the ones from Dragon.
Moogle! Oh, wait, wrong company.
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Boggards (AP #2) just a superior and more detailed Bullywug
Ogrekin (AP #3) excellent savage mutates, randomness evokes some
hordling nostalgia
Giant Fly/giant Maggot (AP #8) Should have been in the first beastiary, pretty basic monster.
Gug (AP #11) Just because
Mobogo (AP #12) Mutated Boggard/AKA flying Froghemoth
Monsterous Cockroach (AP #13) Fallout 3
Peryton (AP #19) Old-school weirdo,
Ruhk (AP #21) Harryhausen, cannot go wrong with Harryhausen.
Coeurl (AP #22) DisBeast
jason buhlman, james jacobs and erik mona+1! :lol:
No one's mentioned the obvious problem with these: they'd have to wait until Epic rules were in place.
Again, while these are not "official" they might do for you in a pinch. Comments welcome.
Boggards (AP #2)
Peryton (AP #19)
Lamia Matriarch
AND
Xanesha, a Lamia Matriarch Sorceress
Revenant
Drakes
Not Paizo but Kobold Quarterly...
Gremlins
Chupacabra
The Wendigo
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Beyond the monsters that will slowly be recycled from older editions, what monsters that Paizo has created would you like to see (possibly updated to PFRPG rules) in the next Bestiary?
For me:
Mobogo (PF#12)
Cold Rider (E1)
Reefclaw (PF#7)Linked the reefclaw for you :)
Its not official but it might be sufficient.
What is a ReefClaw exactly?
Sounds like it would be a giant pistol shrimp, possibly a mantis shrimp...well, if it were cool, anyways.
-Uriel
What is the Courl? where's it from?
My favorites:
1)Wendigo (Spires of Xin Shalast)
2)Shining Child of Thassilon (Fortress of the Stone Giants)
3)Chained Spirit (Skeletons of Scarwall)
4)Danse Macabre (Skeletons of Scarwall)
5)Horrible Drow Fleshworks (Endless Night, 4th mod of 2nd Darkness)
6)Divs from Legacy of Fire
7)Sandpoint Devil (Burnt Offerings)
8)Revenant (Skinsaw Murders)
9)Mother of Oblivion (Hook Mountain Massacre)
What is a ReefClaw exactly?
Sounds like it would be a giant pistol shrimp, possibly a mantis shrimp...well, if it were cool, anyways.
-Uriel
Reefclaws are pretty much big crustaceans with powerful claws and an eel-like lower body. There's a dock scene in the Core Rulebook (the one where a guy's getting his arm ripped off by a bunyip) that features a reefclaw.
What is the Courl? where's it from?
The coeurl is from A.E. van Vogt's sci-fi story "Black Destroyer." They served as the inspiration for the closed-content displacer beast. Read more here.
Did anybody mention daemons yet? Because yeah...NEED those. I need my neutral evil fiends in a Bestiary. :D
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What is the Courl? where's it from?The coeurl is from A.E. van Vogt's sci-fi story "Black Destroyer." They served as the inspiration for the closed-content displacer beast. Read more here.
Have they been stated up anywhere, other than the displacer beast that is.
As the actual couerl in one of the LoF AP issues, can't remember which one. But, its one of paizo's two closed content monsters, and they can't reuse it. Just like the deep crow.
Speaking of deep crow...
Aw. Well. I have the LoF version so I'm okay, it was out of altruism that I asked.
I liked the Edimmu from AP 20. The idea of genie binding gone wrong is cool, and the artwork for that monster is awesome. I don't really get why the CR for an undead genie is so low.
I'll second KaeYoss' vote for the Fungal Crawler in AP 13, although I wish the artwork captured the "pebbly mushroom caps" and fluted underside like the "gills ... located on the undersurface of a toadstool". The picture is not bad, and I like how it captures the cricket characteristics and the bulbous head, but you can't really see anything fungal. It's the mushroom characteristics that should do the most to make the monster disgusting and frightening. I wish we had a mushroom man like the Myconid (not in an AP as far as I recall), and I wonder how the two monsters might interact.
EDIT: I also like how this monster combines moldy and disgusting with the ability to leap. No escaping this nasty vermin!
Rot Grub from AP 25. I especially liked the infested undead idea.
Of course I want the Banshee and Peryton. It's hard to imagine those not getting in.
EDIT: The Black Blooded template in AP 18 is interesting. It reminds me of the black oil from X-Files.
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While I have the AP with the Deep Crow in it, I had to cancel my subscription after I lost my job and never got the issue with the couerl. :(
oof... that does, unfortunately suck.
However... That volume of Pathfinder Adventure Path will remain in print for a long time, and it'll be available as a PDF even after that. It'll wait for you to get back on your feet, is what I'm saying.
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We'd be able to make up new golems, yeah, out of pretty much ANY substance. Personally... I would not want to see things develop in that direction. Golems are tough. Lower CR golems of things made out of less sturdy material than ice start to feel like they should just be some sort of animated construct type thingy.
In any event, if we did do tin golems and paper golems, they'd have entirely different stat blocks than the ones from Dragon.
That's fine, golems or constructs work for me. I just love having the options for stuff like that for lower level adventures.
Mobogo (AP #12) Mutated Boggard/AKA flying Froghemoth
Ha! What a way to win James over!
The couerl and the deep crow will not be appearing in a Bestairy.
As there seems to be some interest in both of these, the reason why these won't be coming back is because both were done with permission by the creatures' respective owners and our agreement allows only for a one-time publication. Soooo, cool monsters definitely, but - at least at the moment - we have no capability to revisit them.
All that aside, that is BEYOND helpful! If anyone wants to expand their lists out to the TOP TEN that'd be great. Keep it rollin' folks, I'm taking notes!
You know what, screw this, why do you guys get to have all the fun. Here's 10 of my favs (in totally random, off the top of my head order):
1. Akata
2. Dance Macabre
3. Graveknight
4. Fungal Crawler
5. Gremlins (All; totally cheating, but sush)
6. Proteans (Again, all; Again, sush)
7. Morlock
8. Strix
9. Xacarba
10. Sandpoint Devil
EDIT: The Black Blooded template in AP 18 is interesting. It reminds me of the black oil from X-Files.
Forget the Black Oil from the X-Files, think 'Black Blood of the Earth' from Big Trouble in Little China!
Darn! I've thought it, but I've kept from voicing that aloud for a very good reason. Now that its been said I have visions of Big Trouble in the Tian-Xian Colony. Not Good...(actually, that would be awesome!)
7. Morlock
That one's already in the Bestiary, dude. Pick again.
I suppose this one could be done via a template (not sure which would do it right though..)
- The Urd. Little flying kobolds with ivory horns (like oni) who love to drop rocks on the unsuspecting! One of my favorite and most heinous monsters of my entire DMing career. My players hated them more than they hated dragons and liches.
Others that would definitely top my list, but due to the issues, I understand. The Coeurl and the Deep Crow. Both were awesome monsters.
10) Banshee
9) Irnakurse
8) Templates! (Like Black-Blooded!)
7) Havero
6) Shining Child of Thassilon
5) Oni, more Oni!
4) Denizen of Leng (so awesome!)
3) Grave Knight
2) Hound of Tindalos
1) Pugwampis