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I've often wondered why we dont use a leveling system here on the Paizo boards that would be based off of participation, etc. We are all gamers, after all, so it would seem that it would be the logical thing to do.
These are my ponderings on a brisk Saturday afternoon.
My vote: yes!
What share the rest of you?
Thoth-Amon
Sounds good. I'm only level 1, though (less than 1000 posts).
hmm...intersting ,but I think paizo hould assert its individuality to "the man" and keep board levels off but it would prove to be intersting though
-Azi Azi 2X4, can't fit through the tavern door
1 post = 1 xp? Which xp progression are we using? If it's Fast, and we're counting the total (including aliases), I'd be level 2
I would think aliases count in full.
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I'd leave that up to the powers that be. I'd say if you have aliases, then they would get their own score. That would make things simple.
We could score points for thread participation, initiation of threads, response to others threads, product opinions, etc. -Or- to keep things simple, points for threads, and aliases get their own score, but no combining of scores.
Heck, i wouldnt mind even giving titles for levels too, if the interest level was there.
I have been a paizo member for years and have appreciated their outstanding service. I even appreciate that whenever i call, and speak with cosmos, or anyone else, for that matter, they have always made you feel like you're their best friend. Thanks Paizo!
What say the rest of you?
Thoth-Amon
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I think it would just encourage meaningless posts. And it would give people with a lot of posts an artificially high opinion of themselves... look at me, I'm level 20 so my opinion is more imnportant than yours, newb!
If you have something to say, say if. If not, go do something else. Why do we need to keep "score"?
I'd leave that up to the powers that be. I'd say if you have aliases, then they would get their own score. That would make things simple.
We could score points for thread participation, initiation of threads, response to others threads, product opinions, etc. -Or- to keep things simple, points for threads, and aliases get their own score, but no combining of scores.
Heck, i wouldnt mind even giving titles for levels too, if the interest level was there.
I have been a paizo member for years and have appreciated their outstanding service. I even appreciate that whenever i call, and speak with cosmos, or anyone else, for that matter, they have always made you feel like you're their best friend. Thanks Paizo!
What say the rest of you?
Thoth-Amon
I agree. Paizo has excellent customer service. I also really enjoy the community on the boards.
I think it would just encourage meaningless posts. And it would give people with a lot of posts an artificially high opinion of themselves... look at me, I'm level 20 so my opinion is more imnportant than yours, newb!
If you have something to say, say if. If not, go do something else. Why do we need to keep "score"?
Maybe I'm being hopelessly optimistic, but I can't imagine that happening on this board. I do think there are some people who are highly regarded on the boards here, and they have a lot of posts. I haven't really seen any evidence of someone using that as leverage against someone new to the boards.
Well, except for Sebastian, that is. :)
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Maybe I'm being hopelessly optimistic, but I can't imagine that happening on this board. I do think there are some people who are highly regarded on the boards here, and they have a lot of posts. I haven't really seen any evidence of someone using that as leverage against someone new to the boards.Well, except for Sebastian, that is. :)
Nobody has used it as leverage because nobody is keeping score. If there was a thing next to your username all the time that said "super hero poster level 20", then you might see it more.
What is it exactly you think these post counters WILL accomplish? If people have high developed a high level of regard around here already, why does it matter how many posts they've made?
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It's not about keeping score, but just for the fun of it. As far as your opinion concerning meaningless posts and opinions being worth more than others based off your level... well, to alleviate your concerns, let me just say that that hasnt proved to be the case elsewhere, so therefore i have no reason to believe it be any different here.
Thoth-Amon
Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012
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Nobody has used it as leverage because nobody is keeping score. If there was a thing next to your username all the time that said "super hero poster level 20", then you might see it more.
What is it exactly you think these post counters WILL accomplish? If people have high developed a high level of regard around here already, why does it matter how many posts they've made?
I don't think it's supposed to accomplish anything. I think the point is for it to be fun. If it became a competition, then it loses the point and it should be dropped.
"RPG Superstar Top 4" is a tag for some posters, and I don't see it going to their heads. :)
(I'm not saying that making 10,000 posts is equivalent to making the top 4 in RPG Superstar)
I like the idea, and I agree that it may incur in a frenzy of senseless posts, and there is people in here calling themselves lords of the boards based on their posting. So titles and experience and level boasting is harmless anyway. I have been posting for some 9 months now and my little experience I can say this would be fun and mostly harmless :D
I'm in! I like the 1 post = 1 XP but I'd leave levels at 500 xp (per alias) so that its a bit faster to "advance". WHat does level brings? who knows, but anyway only us in here would recognize the level up anyway :D And I'd leave "titles" out to avoid ego bumping
I'm almost a Lvl 2 Froggie!
I like the idea, and I agree that it may incur in a frenzy of senseless posts, and there is people in here calling themselves lords of the boards based on their posting. So titles and experience and level boasting is harmless anyway. I have been posting for some 9 months now and my little experience I can say this would be fun and mostly harmless :D
I'm in! I like the 1 post = 1 XP but I'd leave levels at 500 xp (per alias) so that its a bit faster to "advance". WHat does level brings? who knows, but anyway only us in here would recognize the level up anyway :D And I'd leave "titles" out to avoid ego bumping
I'm almost a Lvl 2 Froggie!
A Lvl 2 Pathfinder Superscriber Froggie!
Bella Sara Charter Superscriber
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I like the idea, and I agree that it may incur in a frenzy of senseless posts, and there is people in here calling themselves lords of the boards based on their posting.
As a co-conspirator in the creation of the Lords of the Boards tag, I want to point out that to the extent I have any authority over the matter (which, I suppose I do, since I created the arbitrary requirements for being a Lord of the Boards), a high post count is not required to be a member of the Lords of the Boards nor is posting for a specific period of time.
In fact, there is only one requirement. Post on this thread and make up a title for yourself:
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/community/offTopic/archives/lordsOfThe BoardsASSEMBLE
That's it! All members of the Paizo community are invited to become a member of the Lords of the Boards. Being a member confers no benefits or privileges, but can help in making you feel like you are part of an exclusive club (which isn't actually exclusive at all).
Sebastian, your link goes to the archive for Off-Topic Discussions. Do I have to go through all the 22 pages to find that thread?
EDIT: Found it. I had to enter it into the search thingy. Have not figured what to claim as my claim to fame.
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Sebastian, your link goes to the archive for Off-Topic Discussions. Do I have to go through all the 22 pages to find that thread?
I bumped it just to be safe - it should be in the top 10. Despite my claim to be a Lord of the Boards, I never manage to remember how to do the magic linky thing.
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I like the idea, and I agree that it may incur in a frenzy of senseless posts, ....
I resent that, frogface!
*thinks everything is about him *
"RPG Superstar Top 4" is a tag for some posters, and I don't see it going to their heads. :)
Are you kidding? Those 'Top 4' guys are arrogant schmucks. Seriously. Anyone who didn't bow out gracefully before that round ... I tell ya.
(I'm not saying that making 10,000 posts is equivalent to making the top 4 in RPG Superstar)
Damn. And I was holding out hope!
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RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8. Pathfinder Society Member. 2,939 posts (7,554 including aliases)
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I've often wondered why we dont use a leveling system here on the Paizo boards that would be based off of participation, etc. We are all gamers, after all, so it would seem that it would be the logical thing to do.
These are my ponderings on a brisk Saturday afternoon.
My vote: yes!
What share the rest of you?
Thoth-Amon
You realize, Heathy would achieve instant deity status...
I like the idea, and I agree that it may incur in a frenzy of senseless posts, ....I resent that, frogface!
*thinks everything is about him *
"RPG Superstar Top 4" is a tag for some posters, and I don't see it going to their heads. :)Are you kidding? Those 'Top 4' guys are arrogant schmucks. Seriously. Anyone who didn't bow out gracefully before that round ... I tell ya.
(I'm not saying that making 10,000 posts is equivalent to making the top 4 in RPG Superstar)
Damn. And I was holding out hope!
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RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8. Pathfinder Society Member. 2,939 posts (7,554 including aliases)
OK. The Top 8 AND over 7000 posts should make you equivalent to an RPG Superstar Top 4. I don't make the rules, though.
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8. Pathfinder Society Member. 2,939 posts (7,554 including aliases)
Well, you are for sure a "Lord of the Boards" :D and a high level one for sure!
*nibs at the fresh leaves*
And I wasn't talking about you, all your post sure make lots of sense :P
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RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8. Pathfinder Society Member. 2,939 posts (7,554 including aliases)Well, you are for sure a "Lord of the Boards" :D and a high level one for sure!
*nibs at the fresh leaves*
And I wasn't talking about you, all your post sure make lots of sense :P
If you think that, you've been nibbling too many of those leaves. ;-)
If you think that, you've been nibbling too many of those leaves. ;-)
*nibs at Tarren's avatar leaves*
Are you sticking with the leafy look, Tarren?
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I don't think that it would be a good idea to have a leveling system. Why? I'll tell you. First of all, it would make some people feel either "better" or "inferior" to others, creating sort of a Paizo class system. Half the reason I like these boards is that they're so egalitarian. No ranking, no leaderboards. Second and lastly, it would be yet another way for trolls and jerks to take advantage of people. This is sort of a corollary to my first point, but what the hell. Example:
A first-level poster makes a good point, but gets shut down by a higher-level poster, not because their point is better, but merely because they're higher-level.
If this is a serious consideration, count my vote as strongly against. I strongly urge you to hear this before making any decisions. Maybe I'm reading too much into this...
Yeah I have to vote with Shiny on this one. I'd rather it be the content of the poster's words rather than some weirdo ranking under the name. Besides, I pretty much know who has 1K+ posts on this board, it's usually pretty obvious even without titles.
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Bella Sara Charter Superscriber
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I don't think that it would be a good idea to have a leveling system. Why? I'll tell you. First of all, it would make some people feel either "better" or "inferior" to others, creating sort of a Paizo class system. Half the reason I like these boards is that they're so egalitarian. No ranking, no leaderboards. Second and lastly, it would be yet another way for trolls and jerks to take advantage of people. This is sort of a corollary to my first point, but what the hell. Example:
A first-level poster makes a good point, but gets shut down by a higher-level poster, not because their point is better, but merely because they're higher-level.
If this is a serious consideration, count my vote as strongly against. I strongly urge you to hear this before making any decisions. Maybe I'm reading too much into this...
Pfft. Whatever you inferior infrequent poster, I don't have to listen to...
hey...
You have more posts than me...
I agree with what my esteemed colleague Mr. Shiny says. Please consider his words carefully and weigh them with great care.
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I agree with Mr. Shiny. I'm not a big fan of ranking systems. And let's face it, with a community of gamers the system would just get gamed big-time.
However, I have been toying with the idea of making a thread that's a game of sorts: a thread where everybody who posts in it has moderator privileges. Haven't figured out yet how scoring might work, but I think whoever locks the thread loses.
I'm of the same opinion as Fiendish Dire Weasel, Mr. Curtin, Shiny, Mr. Moth and our esteemed PostMonster General.
I like the level playing field, so to speak, of everyone being equal. Why put something in that might seem fun for some, but could easily be used "for bad" down the line?
Think about it: If we ranked according to number of posts, then Heathy would be our Emperor....
Hey! That's me!
Heathy can be Overlord.
Why institute what would essentially amount to a caste system to an open community. i don't want a new member to the boards to respect me because they're told they should, but for the integrity of my posts or contributions to the community.
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And let's face it, with a community of gamers the system would just get gamed big-time.Yeah, plus that would make every single one of us Heathy's B!itches!!!
8O
Like we aren't already ... ;-)
Okay, serious answer? No ranking system. We already have one: Post intelligent things one hundred times more often than you post unkind things and you'll get reputation points. You just can't see them.
Why institute what would essentially amount to a caste system to an open community. i don't want a new member to the boards to respect me because they're told they should, but for the integrity of my posts or contributions to the community.
Sure. Having an indicator next to your name, based solely on the number of posts, would not tell someone about the quality of your posts (other than you have a lot of time to spend on the messageboards). Once you start reading posts from "Level 20 Uberposter", you should see a pattern emerge. Since the Paizo boards are the only boards I participate on, I can't honestly say what the effect of having an honorary would be. However, I have found that the majority of the folks here are pretty mature, and I can't imagine it would have a profound negative impact.
I have no real stake in this, because I would probably stay at a fairly noobish level. Either that, or I need to step up my inane posts. :)
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I don't like the idea. I've been on boards where posters are ranked by their number of posts and it can definately lead to people feeling they have some sort of authority or privelage over newer posters.
My thoughts exactly. We already have a loosely group "Lords of the Boards" ranking which IMO has more to do with length of time on the boards than number of posts and that is more of a snark title or fun thing. I don't wanna have to compete.
My favorite Internet squirrel has an interesting take on 'virtual achievements'. Check it out: >>LINKY<<
My favorite Internet squirrel has an interesting take on 'virtual achievements'. Check it out: >>LINKY<<
LMAO
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My favorite Internet squirrel has an interesting take on 'virtual achievements'. Check it out: >>LINKY<<
Yay, I got an Achievement!!
I don't like the idea. I've been on boards where posters are ranked by their number of posts and it can definately lead to people feeling they have some sort of authority or privelage over newer posters.My thoughts exactly. We already have a loosely group "Lords of the Boards" ranking which IMO has more to do with length of time on the boards than number of posts and that is more of a snark title or fun thing. I don't wanna have to compete.
This.
... These are my ponderings on a brisk Saturday afternoon.
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I'm enthusiastic..
First, this idea does not have to be implemented by PostMonster. You can just teach us the rules, and we will play along keeping tabs on each other. Also, this will give noobs something to learn when they join the boards.
Second, you seem to have forgotten to include how your system will work: How does your leveling system work? What are the mechanics? Do you have a table you can post; do we gain spell levels???
Or, are just leaving the heavy lifting for others to do?
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Nobody has used it as leverage because nobody is keeping score. If there was a thing next to your username all the time that said "super hero poster level 20", then you might see it more.
What is it exactly you think these post counters WILL accomplish? If people have high developed a high level of regard around here already, why does it matter how many posts they've made?
I don't think it's supposed to accomplish anything. I think the point is for it to be fun. If it became a competition, then it loses the point and it should be dropped.
"RPG Superstar Top 4" is a tag for some posters, and I don't see it going to their heads. :)
(I'm not saying that making 10,000 posts is equivalent to making the top 4 in RPG Superstar)
I need to start trying harder about the head-going-to thing!
YOU MUST RESPECT MAH AUTHORI-TYE!!!
Or... not.
P.S. I think I'm somewhere in the 1500s in terms of post count; I don't do any aliases, PBPs, or "8-word [xyz] game" posts.
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Are you sticking with the leafy look, Tarren?Nah. I'll change it after Mairkurion begs for mercy. Until then, I'll follow him around, crapping in his threads, and making bad 'salad' jokes.
You can be the "toss salad man" from Chris Rock's comedy routine.
Okay, serious answer? No ranking system. We already have one: Post intelligent things one hundred times more often than you post unkind things and you'll get reputation points. You just can't see them.
Yes to this, no to artificial quantification. We already have post counts for that little bit of frivolity. (Ooo...time to go check mine again.)
Don't let him fool ya, Jason. He LOVES looking like me. Have you noticed how intelligent his posts are now? (e.g., see the one I'm agreeing with. It's almost like I didn't have to be here to be here!)
Okay, serious answer? No ranking system. We already have one: Post intelligent things one hundred times more often than you post unkind things and you'll get reputation points. You just can't see them.
Awwww, this leaves me completely out of the loop... I was seeng this as my only chance og getting somewhere by posting like crazy... Since I'm not fond of deep and meaningful post... no wonder I keep to the OTD and have the a Poddle and Jack cultists :shakefist: