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I've only seen the first ten minutes so far, but are we to understand that Ellen and the other members of the Five created the rest of the Cylon humanoid models? And that Cabel a least knows about it?
So now the question is... Is Boomer really helping Ellen, or is she just leading Cavil to earth and the fleet?
Aside, I liked Dean Stockwell's work. In part because of the sheer hatred I end up having for John/Cavil. Also nice to see Kate Vernon back. I liked her inital run as Ellen, and now so nice to see back.
You know, after watching
The Cylons need to create a new shark model. Then, on a recreational visit down to the ruined earth, the crew of Galactica could encounter this cylon shark while waterskiing.
In an effort to avoid being eaten by the cylon shark, Starbuck could use the boat's wake as a ramp to propel herself over the it. Actually, this would be two episodes. Episode 1 could end with Starbuck in the air over the shark, and episode 2 would begin at the same point.
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After finishing the episode: ** spoiler omitted **
Ok, just came from the BoXM thread, so now my brain goes 'limited edition individually numbered boxed set' :P
Though Ellen caller her Boomer. So I have to think she can tell them apart.
I read someone's suggestion that the 'dying leader' is the Galactica and not Rosalyn.
Shame we've only 6 episodes left, there's so much I want to see touched on...
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I'm also hoping that Boomer isn't suckering the FF for John. I liked the Season one Boomer, and the Boomer in Resurrection. Not this sheep she's been seen as of late. Like I said, shame we've only 6 episodes, her and Tyrol's reunion would be worth an episode of character development to me.
In relation to the 7(8) models becoming more individual...
I find it interesting how we're seeing the 5 develop.
I also find it funny/sad that with their memories partitioned and Anders maybe being brain dead that not only is resurection offline, but maybe their memories are locked away for good. (barring more gunfire, which as yellowdingo pointed out, is always possible.)
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Did you notice that the moment that Anders went brain dead the Tigh/Caprica baby started kicking? Maybe that was the miracle that he was babbling about? A new kind of download?
Interesting that nobody has mentioned anything at all about Daniel, the cylon that was "killed" in-utero....
My wife came up with an interesting concept...what if "Daniel" somehow came back in a different gender body and this explains Kara? I mean, now it's not the twelve..but the thirteen cylon skinjobs....
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Interesting that nobody has mentioned anything at all about Daniel, the cylon that was "killed" in-utero....
My wife came up with an interesting concept...what if "Daniel" somehow came back in a different gender body and this explains Kara? I mean, now it's not the twelve..but the thirteen cylon skinjobs....
Actually I had thought that maybe the Ressurection technology was still functioning somehow on Earth and that is how Kara was resurected. I'm taking Katie Sackhoff at her word when she said in an interview that she has beeen told that Starbuck is not a Cylon, but that she is something else entirely. Remember that Sam was rambling about a "gift from the angels" before he went into surgery.
Actually I had thought that maybe the Ressurection technology was still functioning somehow on Earth and that is how Kara was resurected. I'm taking Katie Sackhoff at her word when she said in an interview that she has beeen told that Starbuck is not a Cylon, but that she is something else entirely. Remember that Sam was rambling about a "gift from the angels" before he went into surgery.
I actually try not to watch interviews of this sort during the season as I don't want to spoil anything...but thanks for this tidbit!
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Actually I had thought that maybe the Ressurection technology was still functioning somehow on Earth and that is how Kara was resurected. I'm taking Katie Sackhoff at her word when she said in an interview that she has beeen told that Starbuck is not a Cylon, but that she is something else entirely. Remember that Sam was rambling about a "gift from the angels" before he went into surgery.I actually try not to watch interviews of this sort during the season as I don't want to spoil anything...but thanks for this tidbit!
Actually the interview was last summer between the third and fourth seasons, when we were still trying to figure out the secret of the last Cylon.
I actually try not to watch interviews of this sort during the season as I don't want to spoil anything...but thanks for this tidbit!Actually the interview was last summer between the third and fourth seasons, when we were still trying to figure out the secret of the last Cylon.
In our current world of just watching an advertisement for a movie and the movie is ruined....I avoid this kind of stuff involving things I am actively enjoying rather than potentially ruining something...
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I generally agree with that attitude. However, sometimes I just have an overwhelming need to know. In this case, the story has been much more enjoyable to me knowing that Kara is not a Cylon because now I can spend my time looking at the other possible ways the story can play out. And sometimes, especially with movies, I want to know if it will be worth spending my time and money on.
Channeling a kinder, gentler flynn...remembering a time and place where he and David agreed......
We disagreed? ;p
Besides my showing gratitiude for what you do...and something in your <chuckle> cool considerate thread <peed in pants>...yeah...pretty much :)
Actually...growing up on the east coast...a vast majority of my friends became lawyers...all we ever did was argue.
Some of my best friends, are people that actually managed to get an idea through to me that I was adamantly opposed to in the first place....
Like my buddy Vic back east...seperation of church and state does not mean that religious symbols and emblems cannot be displayed at or utilized in governmental functions...
Or my buddy Travis...9/11 was really about the "terrorists" winning against us by jacking up the cost of oil sky high...(not 1000% certain on this...but I am not vehemently opposing it the way I was when he was telling me this...)
Actually, I value differing opinions (believe it or not)...
Well we a) Have not seen a reimaged ship of light and b) there's that voice clip from the comercials now 'Why don't you just go back to where you came from?'
Hmm maybe the cylons rebels and the humans settle on Kobol? ;-)
DON'T YOU DARE HIJACK THIS THREAD!!!!! :)
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Well we a) Have not seen a reimaged ship of light and b) there's that voice clip from the comercials now 'Why don't you just go back to where you came from?'
Hmm maybe the cylons rebels and the humans settle on Kobol? ;-)
That is a strong possibility since the whole series if based around the whole "this has all happened before, and it will all happen again," idea. Imagine if the final episode began with the fleet returning to Kobol only to find the 1970's Galactica waiting for them and Richard Hatch and Dirk Bennedict standing there saying, "what took you guys so long?"
Edit: In retrospect, maybe just Dirk. Having Richard Hatch there would be confusing to anyone who is only familiar with his as Tom Zarak. Maybe have Laurette Spang and Ed Bagley Jr. there too.
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Well we a) Have not seen a reimaged ship of light and b) there's that voice clip from the comercials now 'Why don't you just go back to where you came from?'
Hmm maybe the cylons rebels and the humans settle on Kobol? ;-)
That is a strong possibility since the whole series if based around the whole "this has all happened before, and it will all happen again," idea. Imagine if the final episode began with the fleet returning to Kobol only to find the 1970's Galactica waiting for them and Richard Hatch and Dirk Bennedict standing there saying, "what took you guys so long?"
Edit: In retrospect, maybe just Dirk. Having Richard Hatch there would be confusing to anyone who is only familiar with his as Tom Zarak. Maybe have Laurette Spang and Ed Bagley Jr. there too.
They could "resurrect" Lorn Greene... :p
Am I the only person with very very bad and dirty thoughts about Starbuck / Kara?
Am I the only person with very very bad and dirty thoughts about Starbuck / Kara?
No I don't have any positive thoughts about her either... oh you meant the other kind!
I hope Starbuck kneecaps you during a SCIFI Convention...
This Comming friday in BSG Deadlock: ELLEN TIGH returns to Galactica after being Rescued by ATHENA and they have found a way to get to the Real Earth?
Not rescued by Athena. Athena is Sharon Agathon. She's on the Galactica. Ellen was rescued by Boomer, Sharon Valeri.
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You can not 'program' personality into your children. Some of it, they inherit from you and some they learn (not necessarily from you).
John mentioned that they programmed him the way he was. This suggests to me they had a lot more control than a 'parent'. And therefore, I think they are somewhat guilty.
Of course it is not like they are an all knowing, all powerful being that created something that it knew would rebel and then got all bent out of shape when it did.
You should see Katee Sackhoff in Nip/Tuck....
Am I the only person with very very bad and dirty thoughts about Starbuck / Kara?
WOW...ok, I know what I'm watching on demand tonight!!!
I hope Starbuck kneecaps you during a SCIFI Convention...
WTF?
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After finishing the episode: ** spoiler omitted **You can not 'program' personality into your children. Some of it, they inherit from you and some they learn (not necessarily from you).
John mentioned that they programmed him the way he was. This suggests to me they had a lot more control than a 'parent'. And therefore, I think they are somewhat guilty.
I don't know how much stock we should put into what John says. After all, as Sam stated, the purpose of creating the Eight was to end the Cylon/Colonial War. Why would they then turn around and program John with a desire to commit genocide against the humans and fratricide against his own creators? I think the "programming" that John described more involved downloading other saved conciousnesses into the Eight, people who's minds they had been able to save but did not have backup bodies for.
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I think it was an excuse. It's the ultimate nature vs nurture arguement.
-I hate humans.
-You choose to hate humans, you have free will.
-No, I hate humans and it's your fault, you made me this way!
Hmm, I just realized, this sounds a lot like Gaius' religion.
'you are perfect as you are, god made you perfect'
'God should appologize to us, for making us this way!'
Edit: And I thought the eight came from the Colonial created centurians.
I don't know how much stock we should put into what John says.
Good point.
THE END IS NIGH!
Or is that "the end is Tigh"?