Help! How to organise the Paizo Library?


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion


As you can see, I am a Pathfinder Superscriber from nearly day 1.

I can easily enough put the AP's up on the board, as they are numbered for convenience, but the chronicles-books... not so much.

Even more troublesome are the modules. They bear a distinctive numbering system, but some of those are otherwise bound to be kept together...

Furthermore I have the problem, that I only have space in one row anymore, so no splitting up on different row possible.

So, how do you, or would you organise the books now, what is your system?

Sovereign Court

My system is simple: I spend too much money on Paizo stuff, read it all when it comes then, leave it on my desk to build huge, dangerous piles. I then realise that I can't work at my desk and I put them in order of release (for Chronicles) and by letter order (for modules) and make a mental note as to which are located where.

What would be cool is if Paizo produce a regularly updated high-res .jpg of module locations like the one in the Campaign Guide and similar to what they did for Greyhawk over four issues of Dungeon (118-121, I think) and a .jpg of which they still host here, I believe. That would be really cool.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Fairly similar to Bagpuss, only without the intermediate tower stage.

The order goes: Beta, Setting, Chronicles (Chronological order), Companions (Chronological order), Modules (Designation order), APs (intrespersed with AP related stuff like the Players Guides Map packs).

In short, no order that would make intuitive sense or be helpful in finding things. ;-)

Grand Lodge

I put them on my shelf as together as I can. Considering I have books laid on top of the rows, and my whole stack of Dungeon stacked on top of the bookshelf, it is the best I can do.

Dark Archive

Same as Bagpuss, only without the later sorting. Pretty much dangerous towers of books all around. If anybody moves anything it throws off my mental map of where everything is, and I'm stumbling around the place like a blind man...


I actually enjoy the chaos of randomly throwing books onto my gaming shelves wherever there is a space. Sometimes two Pathfinder books are next to each other, sometimes the Chill rulebook is in between. I don't purposefully place the PF books far away from one another, because that would then be another kind of order, but just shove 'em up there without thinking about it. Then, the shelf is a big ol' motley collection of 20+ years of gaming materials.

O

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I keep my APs on the shelf in order, with Player's guides before and map packs after. My modules are in chronolocial order. My Chronicles (and non-player's guide Companions) are also in chronological order.

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Ross Byers wrote:
I keep my APs on the shelf in order, with Player's guides before and map packs after. My modules are in chronolocial order. My Chronicles (and non-player's guide Companions) are also in chronological order.

What he said.

The Exchange

I seperate the 6-Part APs with the Intros and the Map Folios. I keep Chronicles with Chronicles and have the Companions behind those. The big books like the Campaign setting and the Beta are proudly first and foremost (still brings a tear to my eye).

As for my map packs and flipmats and accessories, they occupy an entirely different space, as do my item cards.

I am a Paizo freak and proud to be giving them whatever money they ask for.

Cheers,
Zuxius

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6

APs and map packs together, of course. Guides, Chronicle and Companion volumes that fit a path go with the path (i.e. Crimson Throne gets Korvosa, Second Darkness gets Shadowlands, may get Elves). Modules together by letter. Remaining chronicles, companions are sorted together by name. Cards go in their own stack.


*Sigh*

I wish I could offer words of advice. I'm afraid I'm just here to look for everybodies suggestions to the O.P. I moved several months ago, and my library was sent a head and unpacked and shelved before I arrived. Sadly, I just haven't had the energy to spend the day (or possibly two) to reorganize it.

If I were to offer advice I would put the AP's together along with the map folios. I would put the chronicle and companion lines with any relevant modules or AP's that they may touch upon: specifically Guide to Korvosa with Crimson Throne, the Second Darkness Character Guide Companion and the Darklands with Second Darkness ect. I would keep them arranged like that for several months... then I'd probably rearrange them, as that's what I do.

So, yeah, I'm no good with this type of advice.

Scarab Sages

For my physical books, I just keep them sorted by date on my shelf.

For the PDFs, I use DEVONThink, which is a great searchable organizational tool for Macs, with an auto-learning categorization feature so I can quickly put new additions in the right spot.

Liberty's Edge

Mine are strewn in with the 'softcover' pile since precious shelf space is limited to hardcovers. I try to keep them in order but I frequently find myself in need of pulling out one or another (especially PF3 for the Varisia article)


My APs are sorted by number, with the addition of the map folio, the players guide and the item cards added. I have no special sorting for the companions and the other books. I have sorted the modules by date, but I´m thinking about re-sorting them by level - to find a fitting level range quickly.

Stefan

Sovereign Court

Russ Taylor wrote:
APs and map packs together, of course. Guides, Chronicle and Companion volumes that fit a path go with the path (i.e. Crimson Throne gets Korvosa, Second Darkness gets Shadowlands, may get Elves). Modules together by letter. Remaining chronicles, companions are sorted together by name. Cards go in their own stack.

Similar here:

APs + Guide + map pack + fitting companion together,
chronicles next to the Campaign Setting and beta rules,
modules sorted by letter.

I'd also welcome supporting overviews on
- where each product is being set and
- additionally which modules are interrelated.

Cheers,
Günther

Dark Archive

Guennarr wrote:
Russ Taylor wrote:
APs and map packs together, of course. Guides, Chronicle and Companion volumes that fit a path go with the path (i.e. Crimson Throne gets Korvosa, Second Darkness gets Shadowlands, may get Elves). Modules together by letter. Remaining chronicles, companions are sorted together by name. Cards go in their own stack.

Similar here:

APs + Guide + map pack + fitting companion together,
chronicles next to the Campaign Setting and beta rules,
modules sorted by letter.

I'd also welcome supporting overviews on
- where each product is being set and
- additionally which modules are interrelated.

Cheers,
Günther

Hi Günther,

As to supporting overviews, check the Pathfinder Chronicles; Appendix A page 244 and 245. Here you'll find the locations for

Modules:

DO, D1, D1.5, D2, D3, E1, J1, J2, J3, LB1, LB2, TC1, U1, U2, W1, W2, W3,

Guides:

to Korvosa
to Darkmoon Vale
to Absalom

Adventure Path #1 - #13

Jörg

Sovereign Court

I mentioned that map in my earlier post, but it would rule if Paizo maintained and updated one on their website (like the big Greyhawk one)...

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Baugpuss wins the day - seems like all the great thinkers use the read-n-pile, sort later style.

The modules I tend to leave in whatever order they're sitting in because when I am looking for one in particular it is great to thumb through a couple of randomly selected issues. You forget just how amazing they are!

The rest are going up alphabetical, maybe someday later I'll at least separate the Chronicles from the Companions.

Is too much Paizo material a great thing to stress over?!?

Liberty's Edge

I do this too; random piles;
the downside is sometimes you have to go to the bookstore to look at a book you own but can't find.

Scarab Sages

Modified Bagpuss-Style, I read and file, and then when I pull it off the shelf later for future reference it ends up in one of three piles on the floor next to my lounge chair.

Dark Archive

Unread stuff lands on a pile with the latest purchase at it's bottom. After reading the books, I'm sorting them by line (APs, Chronicles, Modules, Companions). Nothing spectacular... :-)

Sovereign Court

Devlin 'Dusk' Valerian wrote:


Hi Günther,

As to supporting overviews, check the Pathfinder Chronicles; Appendix A page 244 and 245. Here you'll find the locations for

Modules:

DO, D1, D1.5, D2, D3, E1, J1, J2, J3, LB1, LB2, TC1, U1, U2, W1, W2, W3,

Guides:

to Korvosa
to Darkmoon Vale
to Absalom

Adventure Path #1 - #13

Jörg

Hi Jörg,

thanks for pointing.
I'd just like to see this overview be kept updated - and related modules be marked...

We'll see maybe a nice fan project, too. ;-)

Cheers,
Günther

Dark Archive

Mine are sitting on my coffee table in a haphazardly wonky stack, with a blank character sheet on top, to protect them from the Chinese food box that tops off the ensemble.

Sovereign Court

Guennarr wrote:


I'd just like to see this overview be kept updated - and related modules be marked...

We'll see maybe a nice fan project, too. ;-)

Cheers,
Günther

I don't think that Paizo would allow fans to host a copy of their Golarion map even if the intentions are good. In which case, it'd be cool if Paizo did it for us...

Liberty's Edge

I place the adventures in files in the cabinet based on level's. The reference books are stuck on the shelf. As long as you can find it, any system works.


Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Ross Byers wrote:
I keep my APs on the shelf in order, with Player's guides before and map packs after. My modules are in chronological order. My Chronicles (and non-player's guide Companions) are also in chronological order.

I too use the Byers system for the stuff that is organized enough to be shelved. Anything too new to have been read yet stays in a drawer on my nightstand and the campaign setting and Beta rules are generally out on table or otherwise lying around in some easily accessible location.


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The voices told me so.

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They never lie

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Bagpuss wrote:
Guennarr wrote:


I'd just like to see this overview be kept updated - and related modules be marked...

We'll see maybe a nice fan project, too. ;-)

Cheers,
Günther

I don't think that Paizo would allow fans to host a copy of their Golarion map even if the intentions are good. In which case, it'd be cool if Paizo did it for us...

This was done nicely, but they asked it to be taken down (nicely).

Liberty's Edge

i just opened an area on my library where i first put bigger books (Campaign Setting one day Pathfinder RPG), followed by all about chronicles in order of release or interest, then i put Companion in the same order, and at las APs

for the time being i am getting very few modules, they go in the end as close to lettering and numbering

organizing them by color also help

when reading them i can leave them anywhere in my room and my tv place... :P wheni finish they return to the shelf until i need them

Grand Lodge

I have a very simple and a very complicated way of organizing my Paizo stuff.

The simple way: The actual books are stacked in a pile against a wall with the spines facing out.

The complicated way: I take the PDF that is broken into Chapters and have multiple interlinking folders containing copies of related topics together. It almost requires a flow chart to see the relationships between files.

Scarab Sages

I don't really see why this would be a problem. just organize it as it makes sense to you so you can find things easily. I have all my modules, aps and maps grouped seperately, with the modules done by level and APs by the number on their spine. Because I find it easy to find stuff that way...Unless I'm missing something...is there a secret message onthe spines that can only be read when everything is in a certain order?

Liberty's Edge

Absinth wrote:
Unread stuff lands on a pile with the latest purchase at it's bottom. After reading the books, I'm sorting them by line (APs, Chronicles, Modules, Companions). Nothing spectacular... :-)

i have an inventory on ALL my books and videogames to know each bookand game status (read, unread, began, lent, sold, having it lent by someone else, bought by internet but not read, bought in internet and read)

that way i know what i have unread and know what follows...

i don't like to read twice a book, unless i need material from it... why? to damn much books unread on my shelves :S

still Fire & Ice Song Series waiting for their time

Krome wrote:
The complicated way: I take the PDF that is broken into Chapters and have multiple interlinking folders containing copies of related topics together. It almost requires a flow chart to see the relationships between files.

i do it easy :P

Folders

RPG
RPG/Pathfinder
RPG/Pathfinder/Chronicles
RPG/Pathfinder/Companion
RPG/Pathfinder/Modules
RPG/Pathfinder/Society Scenes

normal pathfinder incluthing beta fall in just RPG/Pathfinder/

the restare organiced inside by number profuct or line's order

PS: of course all the Game PDFs go under VICES/RPG

Sovereign Court

Bagpuss wrote:


I don't think that Paizo would allow fans to host a copy of their Golarion map even if the intentions are good. In which case, it'd be cool if Paizo did it for us...

It'd be cool for Paizo, too.

Just imagine: A graphical "selection help" which instantly shows you which other adventures are set on the same site as the one you are playing right now. ;-)

Actually I didn't intend any plagiarism: A simpler map just showing the shapes of the countries and marks on them would be already a great help and could be quite easily done without using Paizo's original art.

Kr,
Günther

Sovereign Court

Guennarr wrote:
Bagpuss wrote:


I don't think that Paizo would allow fans to host a copy of their Golarion map even if the intentions are good. In which case, it'd be cool if Paizo did it for us...

It'd be cool for Paizo, too.

Just imagine: A graphical "selection help" which instantly shows you which other adventures are set on the same site as the one you are playing right now. ;-)

Actually I didn't intend any plagiarism: A simpler map just showing the shapes of the countries and marks on them would be already a great help and could be quite easily done without using Paizo's original art.

Kr,
Günther

I think that stuff like the country names is also their property, isn't it?

Contributor

I use the "random stack" method, both here and at home. At work, I wait until I hit the breaking point and can no longer work at my desk (happens maybe once a month) before shelving them all roughly by product line. At home I just give all my gaming stuff to my roommates to read, after which THEY shelve it much better than I would.

I believe Jacobs works the same way, except that his breaking point for work is annual or bi-annual, and his home one hasn't hit since I've known him....

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

James Sutter wrote:

I use the "random stack" method, both here and at home. At work, I wait until I hit the breaking point and can no longer work at my desk (happens maybe once a month) before shelving them all roughly by product line. At home I just give all my gaming stuff to my roommates to read, after which THEY shelve it much better than I would.

I believe Jacobs works the same way, except that his breaking point for work is annual or bi-annual, and his home one hasn't hit since I've known him....

I think that living with someone else is the only reason I have a system. Though I do like organizing and alphabetizing things, even when I don't have to, so maybe I would organize them anyway. As it is, it's a random stack of no more than five on the coffee table, and then the ordered shelf. Unless I'm running a game or two or three, in which case random piles start to take over the apartment. That's when I catch hell and have to clean up.

Organizing my computer is different, though. I have a Pathfinder directory that contains pdfs organized by subject. The current breakdown is:

Bestiary & Monsters - Bestiary entries and ecologies, CMR
CotC - player's guide and adventures
Game Aids - Keeping the Keep, high altitude, plagues, Harrow, etc.
Geography & Locations - Gazeteers and setting books and map subfolder
Gods & Religion - SKR articles, Gods & Magic
NPC's & Villains - Karzoug, Relics of Kazavon, Red Mantis, etc.
Pathfinder's Journals - Eando's adventures all in one place
Peoples & Inhabitants - Shoanti, Varisians, Elves of Golarion
PFS - scenarios, character sheets, guide
RPG - Alpha and Beta stuff
RotR - player's guide and adventures
SD - companion and adventures

OCD? Me?

Liberty's Edge

Guennarr wrote:
Bagpuss wrote:


I don't think that Paizo would allow fans to host a copy of their Golarion map even if the intentions are good. In which case, it'd be cool if Paizo did it for us...

It'd be cool for Paizo, too.

Just imagine: A graphical "selection help" which instantly shows you which other adventures are set on the same site as the one you are playing right now. ;-)

Actually I didn't intend any plagiarism: A simpler map just showing the shapes of the countries and marks on them would be already a great help and could be quite easily done without using Paizo's original art.

Kr,
Günther

check the lastmap in the Campaign Setting

at least the ones up to date are shown there

Sovereign Court

Montalve wrote:


check the lastmap in the Campaign Setting
at least the ones up to date are shown there

Yes, that was the context of my first post on the subject.


Arcesilaus wrote:

I actually enjoy the chaos of randomly throwing books onto my gaming shelves wherever there is a space. Sometimes two Pathfinder books are next to each other, sometimes the Chill rulebook is in between. I don't purposefully place the PF books far away from one another, because that would then be another kind of order, but just shove 'em up there without thinking about it. Then, the shelf is a big ol' motley collection of 20+ years of gaming materials.

O

Chill huh? Thats a blasy from the past


*dusting off the thread*

So, close to 4 years later, I found the following to work for me:

The hardcovers are all in a stack on my bedside table.

Most softcovers are on the shelf, beginning with the ROTRL-Players Guide on the right, followed by the AP and Map, repeat for all following AP's.
(Yes, ordered right to left. When I take out a whole AP-stack, I can lay it on a desk without having to resort them!)

Then the Campaign Settings, Chronicles and Companions are sorted in a loose order where things related to another are together. More or less.

Lastly the Modules are sorted by level. I had sorted them by their short indicator (D0 and so on), but that is a thing from the past now.

As for PDF's, it's pretty similar:
Paizo/
-AP's/ (contains a subfolder for each AP)
-General info/ (contains Campaign Setting, Chronicles and Companions)
-Modules/
-RPG/
-Society/ (1 folder per Season)
-Tales/


Arcesilaus wrote:

I actually enjoy the chaos of randomly throwing books onto my gaming shelves wherever there is a space. Sometimes two Pathfinder books are next to each other, sometimes the Chill rulebook is in between. I don't purposefully place the PF books far away from one another, because that would then be another kind of order, but just shove 'em up there without thinking about it. Then, the shelf is a big ol' motley collection of 20+ years of gaming materials.

O

You realise that you're giving the more organised readers the shivers! ;-)

Contributor

My library is an organized jumble with newer additions organized by "where will they fit" rather than series order. Books I'm currently referencing are pulled for the stack by my desk. My map cards are currently stored in a photo box with a wonderful nautical illustration of a kraken on it and a wooden index card file box that was meant as a perpetual calendar and has 31 days and all the months as special tabbed cards. I've used these to organize all of the map packs and the Compleat Encounters maps going in order of publication, with that order getting jumbled when "what I need for the current game" gets bumped to the front. When I have time, books are organized by author and series, but that generally doesn't happen unless I'm having to reorganize to make room. The Pathfinder books have recently moved to a new shelf for this reason.

The exception is author copies which are moved to the bookcase that has my brag shelves.

Grand Lodge

My older editions of D&D are much better organized than my 3.x/Pathfinder stuff...

Though my Pathfinder books have a much better organization than the 3.x stuff has.

With the Pathfinder stuff, I have the Beginner Box, the hardbounds, the APs, the map packs, and then the Chronicles/Campaign Setting books (and that's one whole shelf devoted entirely to Pathfinder right there)...

The 2nd self has the modules, the companions, and finally all of the various PFRPG compatible stuff that I own.

Everything (within each category) is more or less organized by release date.

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