
Zaister |
Does the new layout for the Pathfinder Modules mean the adventures now will be a little shorter? The two-column pages appear to me to have less text then the three-column-pages, so I did a little digging and ran a few of the older modules as well as LB1 through pdftotext and did a word count. It seems the recent modules were around 170,000 words (including a lot of stuff not really part of the module but of the printing that got converted too). LB1 however only gets close to 150,000 (including the same stuff). I'm not criticizing here, just making an observation.
Also I miss the designer's note boxes with the cute Kyle Hunter author avatars.
And I think LB1 has the tiniest OGL I've ever seen. :)

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And I think LB1 has the tiniest OGL I've ever seen. :)
I can't answer your question—I'll leave that for the editorial folks—but have you seen the Harrow deck, where we fit the entire OGL on the back of a playing card? I totally love that. I like to imagine the printer mixing up the plates and accidentally running the OGL in decks of standard playing cards in place of the "Rules for Poker" card.

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Does the new layout for the Pathfinder Modules mean the adventures now will be a little shorter? The two-column pages appear to me to have less text then the three-column-pages, so I did a little digging and ran a few of the older modules as well as LB1 through pdftotext and did a word count. It seems the recent modules were around 170,000 words (including a lot of stuff not really part of the module but of the printing that got converted too). LB1 however only gets close to 150,000 (including the same stuff). I'm not criticizing here, just making an observation.
Also I miss the designer's note boxes with the cute Kyle Hunter author avatars.
And I think LB1 has the tiniest OGL I've ever seen. :)
Yes; the new format for the modules does mean that there's a little bit less words in there... although I'm not sure how you're getting counts of 170,000 and 150,000 words. A manuscript that long would result in a book a hefty 180 or so pages long...
Pathfinder Modules are currently running at about 19,000 words long, in any event.

Zaister |
I think I confused the character and word counts there :) Word count with pdftotext and wc -w comes to about 28,000 for recent modules and about 25,000 for LB1. That figure includes everything in the PDF, so it counts each map legend, personalization and other stuff created by the pdf generator.
Vic, ah yes, I forgot the OGL in the decks. :)

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I think I confused the character and word counts there :) Word count with pdftotext and wc -w comes to about 28,000 for recent modules and about 25,000 for LB1. That figure includes everything in the PDF, so it counts each map legend, personalization and other stuff created by the pdf generator.
Ah; that makes sense.
Anyway, the main thing that we'll be doing to prevent too much adventure content loss in the modules is limiting each to only two pages of new monster type content; some of the modules before had three to four of them along with a small sourcebook of items and other bits. That's too much non-adventure clutter in an adventure, in my opinion. Plus, now that we've got over a year of momentum... we need to focus on what we've created and not what else we can cram in there. No sense coming up with new monsters and stuff if we never use them, eh?

Zaister |
Zaister wrote:Also I miss the designer's note boxes with the cute Kyle Hunter author avatars.I believe those are Drew Pocza, a Paizo staffer, not Kyle Hunter. :)
You are right, of course. My apologies to Drew and Kyle! :)