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After a brief scan, I found two errata:

On Page 31, Under the infernal bloodline, the power Hellfire doesn't state how many times it can be used. I believe that I is supposed to be 1/day correct?

On Page 69, Under the universal school, I thought that limited wish and wish were going to be removed.

Clarification on these?

I post more if I find any.


Was just about to make "The Friendly Nitpicker" Topic - thanks!

Pg. 10 - Barbarians can use Tumble while in a rage - should be Acrobatics, or perhaps the Tumbling aspects of it.
Pg. 11 - Terrifying Howl - requires "Hunter's Cry" rage power - I believe this has been renamed to Intimidating Glare. Also refers to itself as "Howl of the Wild"
Pg. 10-11 - Barbarian missing descriptions of its other, unchanged, class features (Trap Sense, DR, etc.)


also, is a Paladin supposed to have a D8 or a D10 hit die??

pg 19 shows d8 but pg 35 says all fast BAB classes gain a d10.

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obi-wan shinobi wrote:

also, is a Paladin supposed to have a D8 or a D10 hit die??

pg 19 shows d8 but pg 35 says all fast BAB classes gain a d10.

This one has been answered, and its a typo. Paladins have d10 hit die.


Page 15 & 17: A crocodile is both a level 1 and a level 4 companion for a druid. (This glitch is also in the SRD.)

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Not sure this is errata, but the Sorcerer is missing Cantrips at will.


hogarth wrote:
Page 15 & 17: A crocodile is both a level 1 and a level 4 companion for a druid. (This glitch is also in the SRD.)

Funny enough, it's not in the SRD, at least not at d20srd.org. It *is* in the first printing of the PHB - corrected in later printings. Not sure if its intentional or not in this case.

BM wrote:
Not sure this is errata, but the Sorcerer is missing Cantrips at will.

It doesn't look like this is an Errata issue - let's limit things to obvious discrepancies.

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Page 12, second paragraph: energy channeling is erroneously called turn undead.


Page 11 - Barabarian Rage Powers

Under the Mighty Rage power - greater rage in third sentence should be mighty rage.


Ok, this might not be errata per se, but on page 16, second column, first complete sentence:

PRPG wrote:
The form chosen must be that of an animal the druid is familiar with.

It is gramatically incorrect to end a sentce with a preposition. The sentnce should read "The form chosen must be that of an animal with which the druid is familiar.

I know this is picking nits, but it is a gramatical structure I have always had a problem with.

Wait a minute... ;)

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Editorial note on Page #102: What exactly does compare mean? Just use the word subtract, it’s ok and conveys the meaning clearer.

Also, Table 12-1 Encounter design, do you guys really want to call it APL (average party level)? I’d go with something like encounter level which will cause less confusion for newer players and DMs.

Just my two cents.


Trojan Dwarf wrote:

Ok, this might not be errata per se, but on page 16, second column, first complete sentence:

PRPG wrote:
The form chosen must be that of an animal the druid is familiar with.

It is gramatically incorrect to end a sentce with a preposition. The sentnce should read "The form chosen must be that of an animal with which the druid is familiar.

I know this is picking nits, but it is a gramatical structure I have always had a problem with.

I have the same twitch sometimes when I see it, but it's actually a myth that ending a sentence with a preposition is grammatically incorrect.

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p23-Survival is listed as a Rogue class skill.

p38-Table 5-4: Survival is not listed as a Rogue class skill.


jonas skinner wrote:

Also, Table 12-1 Encounter design, do you guys really want to call it APL (average party level)? I’d go with something like encounter level which will cause less confusion for newer players and DMs.

Just my two cents.

IIRC, ECL (and perhaps EL and CR as well) are not OGL content.

Scarab Sages

p.45, Linguistics, second sentence of the "Special" section: "Treat Linguistics as a cross-class skill choice for the purpose of bonuses when attempting to understand strange versions of your native tongue."

Cross-class skills no longer exist.


Pg. 23 - "Command" Paladin mount ability - Mount must make a "Concentration" check - should be Spellcraft as Concentration no longer exists.


Page 31:Unless I missed something the Infernal Power for the Sorcerer Hellfire doesn't have a range listed on it.


Pretty minor, but pg. 125 - "Nonplayter Characters" - should be Nonplayer or Non-Player.

as reported elsewhere, pg. 106 - two "Minor" crowns of blasting - 2nd one should be "Major".


Based on P26, I'd say the Sorcerer 'casts' more cantrips per day than they know. Not sure why they get fewer cantrips than wizard, guessing spontaneous spell casting is valued that highly by the game designers.

P47, description of Sense Motive skill is missing. Taking this to mean 'works exactly as in SRD'.

?P62 - Is pinned supposed to be just as easy to break as a normal grapple?

P110 - Talisman of Transformation, Elemental Body lists the level 2 version twice (price and cost to make appear accurate).

P121 - If one is ANAL, Channeling positive energy (not being a spell) doesn't stop bleeding. Is it too much to state that anything that restores HP stops bleeding? By the same rules lawyering, potions don't stop bleeding. Not that I haven't already prepared a house rule that says they do (duh), but I am of the firm belief that Rules Lawyers need to be beaten down by the simplest means possible.

Disclaimer: It's early morning here, and this is just from a brief read-through. ALSO, overall this is a great document and I like the new material.


p21 - Paladin - Divine Bond - 1st full paragraph of that page:
"If a weapon bearing a celestial spirit is destroyed, the
paladin loses the use of this ability for 30 days, or until she
gains a level, whichever comes first."

That phrase is included in mentioning if a mount is killed, but not if a weapon is broken.

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The last sentence of the Channel Energy ability of the Cleric says:
"A cleric may attempt to turn undead a number of times
per day equal to 3 + her Charisma modifier."

Change turn undead to Channel Energy.


Not exactly errata, more of a nitpick, but there are two different formats for the sorcerer/wizard spells and spell list. Sometimes it is referred to as sorcerer/wizard while other times it is referred to as wizard/sorcerer.

Examples:
page24 under Rogue Talents -> Magic Missile and Minor Magic, it refers to the wizard/sorcerer spell list.

The beast shape spells are noted as: Level wizard/sorcerer #

Many other spells like Black Tentacles, Bleed, and Confusion are noted as: Level sorcerer/wizard #

Both sorcerer and wizard under the Spells section refer to the sorcerer/wizard spell list.


A couple of points in the Skills section:

In Table 5-3, page 37, the Tumble skill isn't listed as one of those folded into Acrobatics, but it clearly has been from the description.

Table 5-1 on the same page still refers to Skill Choices in the top line instead of Skill Ranks.

Sovereign Court

The description of Feint as a combat ability (p.63) uses the skill Deception instead of Bluff.


the skill Slight of hand is in the main skill list p38 , but not in the description area of individual skills.

Scarab Sages

I dont think anyone has noticed this one yet either, but the Druid class isn't bookmarked (at least not in the printer-friendly version).


Jim.DiGriz wrote:


Cross-class skills no longer exist.

They still exist. It's those you don't get +3 for.

Liberty's Edge

Just two little notes so far:

On Page 27, the Sorcerer with the abberant bloodline gains the long limb ability. It says when they hit 11th level their reach increases -to- 10ft, when it should be -by- 10ft.

Secondly, on page 48, under the Stealth skill, the sentance 'Against most creatures, finding cover or concealment allows you to use stealth' is repeated twice in a row.

-Tarlane

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Page 115 in the printer friendly version isn't printer friendly.

Page 106 states that staves hold a maximum of 10 charges (page 114 lists 50 as the number of charges).

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the Theft skill is still referred to in the Perception skill:
Notice a pickpocket Opposed by Theft (p47)

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On page 31 Power of the Pit states that the sorcerer is able to see perfectly in darkness of any kind, even that created by deeper darkness, while deeper darkness states that darkvision works normally in the area.

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page 70 under Animal Domain, 8th level ability. Refers to polymorph. Should refer to some form of Beast Shape (Probably II, maybe III.)

page 51 Power Attack. Last sentence states that double your Strength Bonus is added to two handed weapons. Should reflect the change of Str Bon/BAB whichever is lower made in the first sentence. Otherwise my BAB 1 Str 18 fighter adds +8 damage for a -1 Penalty.


Page 86, Elemental Body I spell:

Water elemental: If the form you take is a Small air elemental, you...

Scarab Sages

SarNati wrote:
I dont think anyone has noticed this one yet either, but the Druid class isn't bookmarked (at least not in the printer-friendly version).

Please note, I created a bookmark thread when I noticed this. The bookmarks need some significant work, particularly the spells section.

Sovereign Court

p.97,
the description of Polymorph Other II reads: "This spell functions as Polymorph Other I except that is allows..."

I think it should read "...except that it also allows..".

p.88,
Forcecage has (M) for material component but no description on what material is required.

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On Page 30 "Elemental Blast" has no range specified. I would assume that it's not centered on the caster but it's not listed.

On Page 27 "Claws" Abyssal Bloodline Power: Are these considered primary natural attacks? Do you get one attack for one claw/ round or one for each hand like typical claw attacks? The wording is unclear, at one point it says "these claws" which implies that you can use both. Under other bloodlines it states "a melee touch attack" which is clearly singular.

On Page 30 "Claws" Same question as previous only for Dragon Bloodline Power.

On Page 31 "Hellfire" Infernal Power has no range listing.

On Page 32 "Grasp of the Dead" has no range listing.


this is really the way of doing things... if Wizard had given a pdf version of all its products for review to players, we would have much better products...

i like Paizo's Style more and more

keep doing a GREAT job!

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On page 13 in the Deities table Gorum is listed as having the Glory Domain but on page 73 the Glory domain only lists Iomedae and Sarenrae.


Not to sure if this fits but is the feat Agile Maneuvers the updated and renamed feat Weapon Finesse? Because if it is then the Rogue Talent of Finesse Rogue needs altered.


reblax wrote:
Not to sure if this fits but is the feat Agile Maneuvers the updated and renamed feat Weapon Finesse? Because if it is then the Rogue Talent of Finesse Rogue needs altered.

No, Agile Maneuvers does not apply to attacks, only CMB (for things like grapples, disarms, trips, etc), however I wouldn't mind it adding in the weapon finesse part to it.

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Ok, this one is a little petty and has nothing to do with the rules but I'm gonna post it.

Page 49: The very excellent artwork from this page is repeated on page 53.


This might just be me nitpicking, but anyway...

Pg 14. Even though the Iconic has a Cloud Leapord, and there was some mentioning of a lower end cat, there are no Wildcats for a druid until level 7(outside of a cheetah...which may not fit that area).


Pg. 97-98: Polymorph Other I & II reference "beast form X" and "elemental form Y", but the spell names are actually "beast shape X" and "elemental body Y" (confusingly enough).


Top of pg. 113 in crafting magic weapons:

alpha 2 wrote:

Creating magic double-headed weapons is treated as

creating two weapons when determining cost, time, XP,
and special abilities.

Pretty sure there is no XP cost.

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Kenku wrote:
Pg 14. Even though the Iconic has a Cloud Leapord, and there was some mentioning of a lower end cat, there are no Wildcats for a druid until level 7(outside of a cheetah...which may not fit that area).

It's a Snow Leopard actually and when they do her stat block for low levels she won't have it.


SirUrza wrote:
Kenku wrote:
Pg 14. Even though the Iconic has a Cloud Leapord, and there was some mentioning of a lower end cat, there are no Wildcats for a druid until level 7(outside of a cheetah...which may not fit that area).
It's a Snow Leopard actually and when they do her stat block for low levels she won't have it.

Well still, there should be a "cat" alternative to a wolf, say a small wildcat like a Bobcat or Lynx(or if thats low, a Mountain Lion).(If this is getting into opinionated stuff that should be in "Races and classes" ill move it.

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p. 91 Glitterdust - spell references -40 to Hide checks, this should be changed to -40 to stealth checks.


The description of the Monk's Robe (pg 109) which was changed from the Monk's belt still refers to it as a belt in one sentence.


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Turn Elemental and Turn Outsider feats should be Channel Elemental and Channel Outsider. As well, their descriptions need to be updated. p52

Extra Turning should be Extra Channeling, plus the description needs updating. p50

Turning Smite (Combat) should be Channeling Smite (Combat), plus the description needs updating. p57

Edit: Turning Smite is also listed in the table on p53

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