Alright, now I want a series with Butters as the main protagonist. "Waldo Butters, Jedi Knight" would probably be an appropiate title. :p
Alright, now I want a series with Butters as the main protagonist. "Waldo Butters, Jedi Knight" would probably be an appropiate title. :p
I don't. Butters' allegiance is questionable and there is no reason he won't turn on Harry.
*Looks at [Spoiler]* ...Not sure I agree with that. XD
Jim Butcher plays 5E, not Pathfinder.
Clearly, he no longer has any writing talent. :p
He did play Pathfinder but it seems he has switched to 5E. Let's see if PF2E can make him switch back.
Alright, now I want a series with Butters as the main protagonist. "Waldo Butters, Jedi Knight" would probably be an appropiate title. :pI don't. Butters' allegiance is questionable and there is no reason he won't turn on Harry.
I disagree wholeheartedly about that. He got over the distrust he had about Harry in Skin Game.
He did play Pathfinder but it seems he has switched to 5E. Let's see if PF2E can make him switch back.
I disagree wholeheartedly about that. He got over the distrust he had about Harry in Skin Game.Alright, now I want a series with Butters as the main protagonist. "Waldo Butters, Jedi Knight" would probably be an appropiate title. :pI don't. Butters' allegiance is questionable and there is no reason he won't turn on Harry.
Furthermore, Butters could slip to the dark side. He would make an excellent Necromancer. I don't like him.
Furthermore, Butters could slip to the dark side. He would make an excellent Necromancer. I don't like him.He did play Pathfinder but it seems he has switched to 5E. Let's see if PF2E can make him switch back.
I disagree wholeheartedly about that. He got over the distrust he had about Harry in Skin Game.Alright, now I want a series with Butters as the main protagonist. "Waldo Butters, Jedi Knight" would probably be an appropiate title. :pI don't. Butters' allegiance is questionable and there is no reason he won't turn on Harry.
Skin Game spoilers
Furthermore, Butters could slip to the dark side. He would make an excellent Necromancer. I don't like him.He did play Pathfinder but it seems he has switched to 5E. Let's see if PF2E can make him switch back.
I disagree wholeheartedly about that. He got over the distrust he had about Harry in Skin Game.Alright, now I want a series with Butters as the main protagonist. "Waldo Butters, Jedi Knight" would probably be an appropiate title. :pI don't. Butters' allegiance is questionable and there is no reason he won't turn on Harry.Skin Game spoilers
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Yeah, Butter is not going to slip to the darkside.
It would be like Marcone becoming a Warden
Furthermore, Butters could slip to the dark side. He would make an excellent Necromancer. I don't like him.He did play Pathfinder but it seems he has switched to 5E. Let's see if PF2E can make him switch back.
I disagree wholeheartedly about that. He got over the distrust he had about Harry in Skin Game.Alright, now I want a series with Butters as the main protagonist. "Waldo Butters, Jedi Knight" would probably be an appropiate title. :pI don't. Butters' allegiance is questionable and there is no reason he won't turn on Harry.Skin Game spoilers
** spoiler omitted **Yeah, Butter is not going to slip to the darkside.
It would be like Marcone becoming a Warden
Given what he has accomplished, I put nothing beyond Marcone.
I don't think Butter's can be a knight of the cross because he's not christian.
So, his appearance as one is an illusion, and hence dark magic.
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Well, Sanya's agnostic, and that doesn't seem to have slowed him down any. XD Nor did it seem to bother Michael or Shiro, who were quite happy to introduce him as a member of their order. And the swords aren't exactly easy to fake - or fool. Whatever the prerequisites for becoming a Knight of the Cross are, being Christian doesn't seem to be among them.
I do not think anyone would be able to fool the power behind the swords^^
And if the books have showed something, that being christian is not nesc. for being a Knight.
I don't think Butter's can be a knight of the cross because he's not christian.
So, his appearance as one is an illusion, and hence dark magic.
Yeah, okay. I'm sure God himself and the archangel Uriel got fooled by that wily doctor. That sounds totally likely.
Hence the illusion part.
Uh, one of the other Knights is an explicit atheist who, even after taking up the sword, still insists that the Big G is just a really powerful alien.
Amusingly enough, faith itself is completely irrelevant to taking up one of the swords. The real requirement is simply a righteous soul.
(Though Harry also identified a royal blood component to the whole thing - the Carpenter family are descendants of Charlemagne. Wonder is Butters is a descendant of Solomon.)
Butters is Harry's Judas. We'll see if Butcher has the bravery to actually carry out and put into print the plot he has put into motion however.
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Okay, at this point you are either just taking the piss or have more unsavory opinions about which I really don't want to discuss. I'm out of this particular discussion about JB.
It's the difference between comic books and literature.
We can only wait and see which path Butcher chooses.
I'm 2:1 he goes comic book.
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I'm not sure that "people must betray you or it's not real literature" is a good standard to have. Doubly so when the protagonist is portrayed as a flawed person, rather than some kind of perfect superhuman. It's not inherently bad to learn lessons from betrayal, but when someone's pretty brooding to begin with, it's also okay to have them be inspired by someone acting noble and try to improve as a person in response.
Also, he once rode a [spoiler of awesome scene] into battle. I feel like we passed "comic book" a long time ago.
I'm not sure that "people must betray you or it's not real literature" is a good standard to have. ...
This is a Straw Man.
I never said, the good standard is "people must betray you or it's not real literature".
You put it in quotes, and you can literally scroll up and look at my posts.
I was not.
Speaking of come backs, when does the next Harry Dresden book drop.
It's like there is no longer buzz surrounding Harry's plight.
Peace Talks comes out in the middle of the year.
Just preordered it again. Hope for the final time^^
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Jim had a couple rough years IRL and that put the book back quite a bit.
The Last Titan is Rhea/Cybele. All we know about the Last Titan at this point is that she's female. Assuming that she is, in fact, a Greek Titan, Rhea seems like the most likely candidate, being the one who was probably on the best terms with the Olympians, and though most of the Titanesses (and Oceanus) were not actually locked in Tartarus, she seems like the one most likely to be active today. Rhea, however, was not a particularly malevolent or violent deity, unless we consider the fact that she was often conflated with the cult of the Phrygian goddess Cybele, aka the Mad Mother. Cybele was a particularly unhinged and feared goddess in the ancient world with a particular fondness for genital mutilation, a figure far better suited to being a villain. Since the series plays around so much with aspects, I can imagine that they may in fact be one and the same.
Just heard that in September the follow-up to Peace Talks will get published. Name is Battle Grounds. So I have a Feeling what Kind of result the Peace talks will have.
Sounds like the book got to big and they just split it.
Pretty much, although when Jim got the news that they couldn't publish the book as one (because it was so big that they'd have to charge about 50$ for the hardcover), he used the opportunity to flesh out both parts of the story even more and make them both full finished stories on their own.
I wonder what this does to his longstanding plan of 20 individual books, capped by a finale trilogy.
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He pretty much said in the announcement interview that it would now go to 22 books and the BAT, i.e. 25 books total.
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I'll buy every one of them. Plus copies for my friends.
Go Jim!
Just read it. Awesome book.
Gives a lot of characters time to shine.
Can't wait how it continues
Just finished Battle Grounds. And will just say it is awesome.
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Pretty much, although when Jim got the news that they couldn't publish the book as one (because it was so big that they'd have to charge about 50$ for the hardcover), he used the opportunity to flesh out both parts of the story even more and make them both full finished stories on their own.
It should be noted this excuse - from the publisher - is total nonsense. The final manuscript for the combined novel was around 300,000 words, which would translated to around 600 pages in hardcover and maybe 750 in paperback, more or less exactly the same size as A GAME OF THRONES or THE EYE OF THE WORLD. Chunky, but absolutely not out of the ordinary. Fantasy books that are far huger are published all the time by publishers of comparable size (Brandon Sanderson's RHYTHM OF WAR is out next month at 460,000 words).
The publisher split the book to make more money and try to make it look better to fans having waited six years for the next book. They could have very easily published the book in one volume and chose not to in order to make more green.
Just finished Battle Grounds. And will just say it is awesome.
So far the audio book is pretty damn awesome.
My wife finished Battle Ground yesterday; I just started Peace Talks today. She says when I get done with both we can discuss the things that seriously p!ssed her off. She didn't give me any hints.
I note that early in Peace Talks there was a prediction that someone would betray Harry, but when I mentioned it, she said "Yeah, well, that's just Harry's life, isn't it?"
Holy...!!! Peace Talks / Battle Ground was amazing. Damon Griffin, I want to hear what your wife has to say and see if it is what pissed me off.
Holy...!!! Peace Talks / Battle Ground was amazing. Damon Griffin, I want to hear what your wife has to say and see if it is what pissed me off.
I'll get back to you in a few days when I've finished the books and we've had the conversation. All she's told me so far is that it happens in Battle Ground and is something Butcher, rather than one of his characters, did (or didn't do.) Sooo...took the story in a direction she didn't like? failed to resolve some key question? <shrug>
Oh, no he didn't!
So, I'm not finished with Battle Ground yet, but I did get to the part that pissed my wife off. And I don't blame her.
I'm tempted to go as far as to say she was fridged. But as I said, I'm not done with the book. Fridging more or less requires that a supporting character -- typically female -- be killed for the purpose of motivating the main character to some external action, or freeing him to take that action. So far, it's only motivated Harry to try to murder the panicky cop, an action he was prevented from taking.
My wife did go ahead and give me enough spoilers to let me know that Murphy will be accepted as one of the einherjar, but apparently those guys aren't allowed to return to Earth until the last person who remembers them has died...so, not in Harry's considerably extended lifetime. Butcher, you butcher, you suck.
We've both read and enjoyed all the Dresden books to date, but after this, Peni says I'll have to read the last few coming and let her know whether or not she should bother
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Cornerhounds. Heh.
Did you read his latest. Caught me off guard. wow!