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I have a player in a FR version of AoW. She is playing a wood elf. According to the FRCS Wood Elves have the same stats and abilities of the phb elf except they have a +2 str, +2 dex, -2 con, -2 int, -2 cha. The errata adds that their favored class is ranger. How come they have only 2 bonuses to stats, and 3 penalties. I don't think I have ever seen a race that had that unless it was too balance out other racial abilities. Any thoughts?


The MM has wood elves at +2 Str, +2 Dex, -2 Con, -2 Int with a favored class of ranger. That's a pretty sweet deal where I come from.


T-Bone wrote:
The MM has wood elves at +2 Str, +2 Dex, -2 Con, -2 Int with a favored class of ranger. That's a pretty sweet deal where I come from.

Yeah I saw that, I just was wondering why in 3 sourcebooks wood elves are given 3 penalties to 2 bonusses

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DMPugLW wrote:
I have a player in a FR version of AoW. She is playing a wood elf. According to the FRCS Wood Elves have the same stats and abilities of the phb elf except they have a +2 str, +2 dex, -2 con, -2 int, -2 cha. The errata adds that their favored class is ranger. How come they have only 2 bonuses to stats, and 3 penalties. I don't think I have ever seen a race that had that unless it was too balance out other racial abilities. Any thoughts?

I thought i read somewhere that a bonus to STR is worth more than a bonus to other stats, thus the additional penalty. I think it was either in the DMG under class creation or maybe it was in a Dragon mag... Not sure, sorry... Hope this helps though


Lord Stewpndous wrote:
DMPugLW wrote:
I have a player in a FR version of AoW. She is playing a wood elf. According to the FRCS Wood Elves have the same stats and abilities of the phb elf except they have a +2 str, +2 dex, -2 con, -2 int, -2 cha. The errata adds that their favored class is ranger. How come they have only 2 bonuses to stats, and 3 penalties. I don't think I have ever seen a race that had that unless it was too balance out other racial abilities. Any thoughts?
I thought i read somewhere that a bonus to STR is worth more than a bonus to other stats, thus the additional penalty. I think it was either in the DMG under class creation or maybe it was in a Dragon mag... Not sure, sorry... Hope this helps though

I agree. I think in general, the physical abilities (in particular STR) are valued more than mental ones.

WaterdhavianFlapjack


The Wood Elf has been updated to 3.5 in the Monster Manual (page 104; Rich Baker confirmed on "his" Thread that it should be the one used for the FR, although he does not seemed to be so thrilled about either version, IIRC).

It now has Str +2 and Int -2, the other traits are like those of a normal elf.

Bocklin


It would seem that the bonuses to physical stats are more "costly" than the mental skills, it would seem. If you feel that this is unbalanced, I would make a ruling that she gains a +2 bonus on Charisma checks when dealing with sylvan creatures and animals - that would retain the -2 penalty on all Charisma checks when dealing with everyone else, but reflect her Wood Elf upbringing.


Lilith wrote:
It would seem that the bonuses to physical stats are more "costly" than the mental skills, it would seem. If you feel that this is unbalanced, I would make a ruling that she gains a +2 bonus on Charisma checks when dealing with sylvan creatures and animals - that would retain the -2 penalty on all Charisma checks when dealing with everyone else, but reflect her Wood Elf upbringing.

That's pretty good, Lilith! :)

WaterdhavianFlapjack

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